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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 05:46:30
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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I found an interesting article in the Guardian reporting on work done by a group that analysed the British social attitudes survey for the last 30 years.
The proportion of the population who identify as having no religion – referred to as “nones” – reached 48.5% in 2014, almost double the figure of 25% in the 2011 census. Those who define themselves as Christian – Anglicans, Catholics and other denominations – made up 43.8% of the population.
“The striking thing is the clear sense of the growth of ‘no religion’ as a proportion of the population,” said Stephen Bullivant, senior lecturer in theology and ethics at St Mary’s Catholic University in Twickenham, who analysed data collected through British Social Attitudes surveys over three decades.
“The main driver is people who were brought up with some religion now saying they have no religion. What we’re seeing is an acceleration in the numbers of people not only not practising their faith on a regular basis, but not even ticking the box. The reason for that is the big question in the sociology of religion.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 06:10:56
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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I think I read somewhere the religion in general is on a decline. I could be wrong though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 07:01:04
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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I can believe it, I feel like something similar is going on in the USA, although some places like the bible belt and Utah will probably hold out for a long time.
I've not seen any statistics about it, but I know I'm definitely in that "nones" camp, probably the first person in my family to stop practicing if that gives you an idea (and I have an uncle who's an evangelical priest, so that could be one heck of a fallout if he ever hears about it)
Other areas though seem to already have largely given up on it. I've met dozens of Californians and can only think of one who was religious for example.
I would expect that if a similar survey was done, you'd see a similar trend, but I doubt "nones" would outnumber religious folk at the moment unless you picked some very blue urban areas. In most areas, it's still considered the norm to go to church, even if only to keep up appearances on Easter and Christmas, so I doubt as many people would check a "none" column.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 07:04:50
Subject: Re:Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 07:19:11
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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We're coming for your daughter MWAHAHAHAHA.
This isn't a surprise honestly, and has been a trend for a long time. Less so in God's own country of course. *salutes flag while a single tear rolls down the cheek*
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 08:08:30
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Why is this a surprise?
The UK has historically been one of the most secular nations.
I will however continue to promote and spread the word of Jedi teachings and lightsabre any non-believers as I see fit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 08:22:17
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Multispectral Nisse
Luton, UK
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The trend isn't a surprise, but that difference is huge for a 3 year time period.
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“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 08:28:25
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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[MOD]
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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That comparison is slightly suspect since the figures are from the 2011 Census and the 2014 Social Attitudes Survey. These are two different surveys done with very different methodologies and can be expected to produce different results.
For example in the Census, it is the head of household who must record all the data for all members.
However it is true that Britain is a fairly irreligious nation and has been getting more secular for decades.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 08:42:21
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Not sure if I am upset or glad...
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
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Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 08:44:51
Subject: Re:Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Well, the decline in religion is almost certainly why crime has rising inexorably - that's expected when you slowly walk away from the source of morality
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 08:49:37
Subject: Re:Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Ouze wrote:Well, the decline in religion is almost certainly why crime has rising inexorably - that's expected when you slowly walk away from the source of morality.
We were never close to the source of morality. We can't even begin to get close. We are still human.
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 08:55:15
Subject: Re:Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Douglas Bader
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I think you missed the sarcasm there...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 08:58:41
Subject: Re:Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Sarcasm? There was no Ork-moticon to insinuate that it was sarcasm so I took it at face value.
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 09:08:46
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Well Ouze isn't a moron so I doubt he said that seriously.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 09:35:14
Subject: Re:Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Sorry, I've added an Orkmoticon.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 09:53:18
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The trouble with these sorts of questions is very much in the way they are worded. I remember Richard Dawkins campaigned against the wording of the 2011 national census. That came back with the population saying it was 1/3 non-religious. Now we have a separate census from 2014 saying we are 1/2 non-religious. I don't doubt the way the barometer is swinging, but I'm not necessarily convinced of the accuracy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 10:25:33
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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I'm surprised it's that low to be honest. I don't know a single person; friend or work colleague that claims to be religious or has indicated any sort of religious inclination except one Hindu chap from India, but I don't think people are completely honest about these things in the UK. It's like the old CoE thing which I think is atypical of the majority of Brits. For example I can remember my parents stopping and discussing what to put in the Census when I was a kid, then agreeing that they were CoE. The last time they went to church was their wedding and were completely non-religious, but put CoE anyway because well everyone one is in England. My generation and younger are less inclined to that sort of schooling so are more inclined to put non-religious. That's not to say I don't see allot of these heathens jumping through hoops to get into the CoE school or pitch up at the very scenic local village church when they want to use it for a wedding!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 10:37:31
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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[MOD]
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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I put C of E for myself, being a confirmed but non-practising member. I put Shinto and Buddhist for my wife, as the Japanese are very relaxed about religion, and "none" for my daughter.
My father is a Methodist, but I don't think he's been to chapel for over 50 years.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 11:03:43
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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The reason for that is the big question in the sociology of religion.”
Because it's the 21st century and people are starting to see the lack of relevance of bronze age mythology???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 11:25:57
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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[MOD]
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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I don't think it is as intellectual as that. I think there are many social changes at play that are affecting different areas of life. The evangelical churches are increasing membership, for what that means.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 12:21:02
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Crispy78 wrote:The reason for that is the big question in the sociology of religion.”
Because it's the 21st century and people are starting to see the lack of relevance of bronze age mythology??? 
Surprisingly, it still holds relevance. Could give it a try you know...
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 14:00:08
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Kilkrazy wrote:I don't think it is as intellectual as that. I think there are many social changes at play that are affecting different areas of life. The evangelical churches are increasing membership, for what that means.
I feel in America at least, we're very much encouraged to " pick a side" by social media and the news.
You're either a red blooded "one nation under God" extreme conservative or a granola munching hippy pothead socialist. Or at least, that's how it feels sometimes. A lot of people get left out in the cold who are in between those spectrums, and that makes them more likely to join an extreme I guess. They don't want to feel alone and pick a side even if they normally wouldn't agree with it, similar to how politics goes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 14:54:21
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness
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I mean, it's unsurprising. Godless whores are statistically more likely to be pumping out children.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 14:55:59
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Goliath wrote:Godless whores are statistically more likely to be pumping out children. 
My kind of girl.
Evidently less and less relevance year on year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 14:58:26
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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I think it still does, but I just might be... puffin' it up.
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 15:04:32
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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This is because Brits don't know how to drive. You are limited by your socialist worker's paradise non-straight roads.
Because as well all know, there are no atheists at 120mph. If you lived in God's Country, and drove its straight Freedom Roads, you would talk to God on a daily basis.
"In order to converse with his equal and Irishman is forced to talk to God."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 15:44:29
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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First we invented well-known Englishman God.
Then we invented bendy roads so the locals wouldn't see the Redcoats coming.
Then we invent America.
Obvious difficult third album there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 15:58:32
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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MrMoustaffa wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:I don't think it is as intellectual as that. I think there are many social changes at play that are affecting different areas of life. The evangelical churches are increasing membership, for what that means.
I feel in America at least, we're very much encouraged to " pick a side" by social media and the news.
You're either a red blooded "one nation under God" extreme conservative or a granola munching hippy pothead socialist. Or at least, that's how it feels sometimes. A lot of people get left out in the cold who are in between those spectrums, and that makes them more likely to join an extreme I guess. They don't want to feel alone and pick a side even if they normally wouldn't agree with it, similar to how politics goes.
Why can't I be a red blooded-one nation under God-granola munching-pothead?
You do have a point though in that with the advent of social media, peer pressures is turned up to eleventy-billion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 16:03:30
Subject: Non religious people in England and Wales now outnumber Christians.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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notprop wrote:First we invented well-known Englishman God.
Then we invented bendy roads so the locals wouldn't see the Redcoats coming.
Then we invent America.
Obvious difficult third album there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/24 17:20:23
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saw bits of this documentry from sweden about an american pastor visiting their it has some interesting things about religon with the majority being atheists but still celebrating xmas and christening and weddings in church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-kANR1vJkM
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