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 Ouze wrote:
I like this new trend of accepting someone acting like a sociopath by brushing it off as "dark humor", "not being PC", and "just saying what we all were thinking".

[... redactions at Jihadin's request.] Ouze. Its me.....when have I ever been....PC?

Wait one....Besides the "November" word.
Wait two....Besides my view on LGBT as in "I don't care as long as they do their job"
Think there are some others.....wait...remember when someone threw up the South Vietnam Police Chief executing that VC captain? I took the side of the execution.

I know, right? It's great how inclusive people are being of wannabe psychotic dictators.

Not a huge fan of the ignore button, but, y'know. I can also draw a line between dark humor and suggesting you would have liked to be a part of the gang rape of a murdered woman. Guess that's just 2edgy4me?

Since you do not know me. I'm pretty sure someone on here can vouch I've no issue executing a proven rapist. The guy makes a dark arse joke and becomes a rapist by those words alone. Since clearly he wanted be in prison to commit that atrocity.

Guess what. I'm a cold heart killer. No issue with me putting down a Tango. (notionally)
But...I am also a murderer by being that killer (notionally)
Yet I also committed atrocity by having my driver drive through a mud hut home to kill some bad guys (notionally)
Hey I also sat back with others to laugh and grin and not showing pity on some bad guys as a A10 come in to opt their arse out and TOOK PICTURES (notionally) TWICE!
Hey, we also committed some shady shaningans by turning over bad guys to the ANA for intel processing (notionally)

I've done some dark humor stuff

He makes a comment and gets condemned. I did real world stuff and receive medals and praise for my actions yet I am not condemned.

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:

Guys, this man has got death squads hunting down street kids. Please stop defending scum like this already.

Scum? That's rich coming from somebody who admires another hated hard-ass who's used murder, backstabbing, and attempted murder to get his point across.


And please dispense with the propaganda-inspired hysteria over the guy. We know he's a hard bastard, makes inappropriate jokes, and lacks decorum. But I'm not buying any bs that comes from Western media sources or RT regarding him or his actions. Sensationalism sell papers and jacks up ratings, after all.

I admire someone who uses murder? Who then? I absolutely hate murders more than anything. Maybe that I can admire some aspects of Stalin, but then again I hate him in equal measure.


And do Human Rights Watch and the UN also need to sell papers? Or the Phillipine people that have lost their loved ones to the death squads? Do they need to sell papers too? What you are saying is disgraceful. There is no need for propaganda, evidence of what this man is doing in the Philipines has been well-documented by many different and unrelated independent sources. And even better, the guy has admitted it himself. Better proof does not exist.

 Jihadin wrote:
Since you do not know me. I'm pretty sure someone on here can vouch I've no issue executing a proven rapist. The guy makes a dark arse joke and becomes a rapist by those words alone. Since clearly he wanted be in prison to commit that atrocity.

Guess what. I'm a cold heart killer. No issue with me putting down a Tango. (notionally)
But...I am also a murderer by being that killer (notionally)
Yet I also committed atrocity by having my driver drive through a mud hut home to kill some bad guys (notionally)
Hey I also sat back with others to laugh and grin and not showing pity on some bad guys as a A10 come in to opt their arse out and TOOK PICTURES (notionally) TWICE!
Hey, we also committed some shady shaningans by turning over bad guys to the ANA for intel processing (notionally)

I've done some dark humor stuff

He makes a comment and gets condemned. I did real world stuff and receive medals and praise for my actions yet I am not condemned.

He's getting condemned for his death squads, too. Don't you worry about that

Let me ask you something. If you were up in front of the cameras - if you were making a bid to be elected - do you think you'd think back on this stuff, and make a 'joke' for the benefit of the crowd? Not about the bad guys, but about their victims? The people they've hurt or killed? Would you make that 'joke' knowing that relatives and friends of the deceased would be watching, or would at the very least certainly hear about it? Because that's what he did. What if it was your mother or sister or friend in that woman's place? Would you still think the idea of him 'being first' is a good example of dark humor, or would that cross a line?

It maybe tangential, but I do have to wonder about how ineffective the Filippino organised crimes are. You would think that in a country that's apparently overflowing with rapists, murderers and cartels, there'd be a huge line-up of would-be assassins.

So now we're cheering on gang rape as well as death squads? Lovely...

 Jihadin wrote:
Since you do not know me. I'm pretty sure someone on here can vouch I've no issue executing a proven rapist. The guy makes a dark arse joke and becomes a rapist by those words alone. Since clearly he wanted be in prison to commit that atrocity.

Guess what. I'm a cold heart killer. No issue with me putting down a Tango. (notionally)
But...I am also a murderer by being that killer (notionally)
Yet I also committed atrocity by having my driver drive through a mud hut home to kill some bad guys (notionally)
Hey I also sat back with others to laugh and grin and not showing pity on some bad guys as a A10 come in to opt their arse out and TOOK PICTURES (notionally) TWICE!
Hey, we also committed some shady shaningans by turning over bad guys to the ANA for intel processing (notionally)

I've done some dark humor stuff

He makes a comment and gets condemned. I did real world stuff and receive medals and praise for my actions yet I am not condemned.

You're just making yourself sound like a war criminal who's desperately trying to pass off all kinds of trauma and emotional distortion as merely appreciating dark comedy.

Maybe pointing out double standards.


Edit

Also there was little to no laws till he came in. He's enforcing a draconian standards. Don't break laws. Also the last dictator wife is a Senator in their Parliament who still has all the art work on her condo walls that were acquired on the shady side. How many here though remember

Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Sr. (September 11, 1917 – September 28, 1989) was a Filipino politician and kleptocrat who was President of the Philippines from 1965 to 1986. He ruled as dictator under martial law from 1972 until 1981.

They let the "Castle" go into disrepair, the material property rotted, the freaking shoes that lady had was INCREDIBLE. So yes. I am comparing D to Marcos being I remember Marcos leadership in the Philippines. before he went down. I also D leadership from Davao visits with friends there.



Also those are not his death squads, he keeps his arsenal in his car, He has no issue being point man for a room rush...I can go on.

Not really. Nobody in this thread gave you a medal. I mean, probably. I don't know who's on the other side of these screen names.

 Spinner wrote:
Not really. Nobody in this thread gave you a medal. I mean, probably. I don't know who's on the other side of these screen names.

I will not post my DD214 here
I mention that on the Stolen Valor thread.

Spinner wrote:The link I posted is a news source in the Phillipines. There's a recording. He's on camera, talking about a murdered lay missionary who had been gang raped, saying that it was a shame because she was so beautiful that he, the mayor, should have been first. This has been filmed, it's not any kind of spin by 'Western media'.

He tried to play it off as a folksy joke. That's not a folksy joke. People need to step away from the Robocop and Punisher fantasies and take a good, long look at what kind of sociopath this man actually is.

It's not a "folksy joke" by our standards. I do agree it was tasteless as all hell. But I don't condemn people for off-color crap or shooting off their big mouth.

Dreadwinter wrote:Well that is clearly corrupt journalism!

*puts fingers in ears and closes eyes* nananananananananananana Not listening! He is the hero we deserve and the hero we need!

/Sarcasm

Journalists who are not corrupt either have an ideological ax to grind, or are in it for the money (i.e. a paycheck). There has never been a such thing as "journalistic integrity". The image of a crusading journalist who's only concerned with truth and justice is a goddamned myth. Period.

Spinner wrote:Gosh, you know, I don't think I've ever said that over the memory of a murdered gang rape victim. Weird, right?

That's not dark humor any more than folksy humor, and it doesn't get a pass by talking about PC.

Different people have different standards of humor or love to troll the easily offended. I might not like it myself, but I don't get all bent out of shape about it. I have a thick skin.


I would advise you to never visit 4chan. You would probably go insane.

Ouze wrote:I like this new trend of accepting someone acting like a sociopath by brushing it off as "dark humor", "not being PC", and "just saying what we all were thinking".

Based on the last part, I take it you're not a big fan of Trump?


Hard times and hard societies breed hard individuals. It's not always in line with our clean, tea n' biscuits, Western culture of plenty. What works for us won't work for them, and vice versa. With that in mind, I can admire the guy's drive and hard stance on crime and corruption, despite disliking some of his choices of words.

Iron_Captain wrote:

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:

Guys, this man has got death squads hunting down street kids. Please stop defending scum like this already.

Scum? That's rich coming from somebody who admires another hated hard-ass who's used murder, backstabbing, and attempted murder to get his point across.


And please dispense with the propaganda-inspired hysteria over the guy. We know he's a hard bastard, makes inappropriate jokes, and lacks decorum. But I'm not buying any bs that comes from Western media sources or RT regarding him or his actions. Sensationalism sell papers and jacks up ratings, after all.

I admire someone who uses murder? Who then? I absolutely hate murders more than anything. Maybe that I can admire some aspects of Stalin, but then again I hate him in equal measure.


And do Human Rights Watch and the UN also need to sell papers? Or the Phillipine people that have lost their loved ones to the death squads? Do they need to sell papers too? What you are saying is disgraceful. There is no need for propaganda, evidence of what this man is doing in the Philipines has been well-documented by many different and unrelated independent sources. And even better, the guy has admitted it himself. Better proof does not exist.

The United Nations is a worthless joke that I lend no credence to. The U.S. taxpayers front 25% of the money for an organization, on U.S. soil, that is nothing more than a platform for Third World hellholes to gak all over us (usually after gleefully taking our foreign aid money). Human Rights watch? The same, with the added ideological ax to grind. I can't take any organization seriously that equates the U.S. with murderous Third World countries, just because we still have capital punishment on the books, both on the State and Federal level.


And while the loved ones might be on the level, that alone isn't evidence of a monstrous, mass murdering dictator in the making. And if they could very well be butthurt relatives of drug dealers, corrupt officials, common criminals, or among the political opposition (politics is a cutthroat game).


As for admiring a murderer, I was talking about Vlad Putin. He's ex-KGB (a bloody-handed organization of a bloody-handed U.S.S.R.). He backstabbed the Russian Oligarchs after he used them in his rise to power (which I admire the hell out of him for), the reasons for dead opposition journalist Anna Politkovskaya have pointed back to him (whether he's innocent or not), and there have been attacks/harrassment/humiliation of the political opposition in Russia (Garry Kasparov). There is some evidence that Putin, at least tacitly, allowed for it, if not outright ordered it.

Now I believe a lot of the crap levied against Putin is from bias media cartels, political opponents, Western "journalists", Antifa, ant-Russian governments who don't like his foreign policies, etc, etc. But despite my admiration of Putin, I understand that he is shady and likely has blood on his hands. But Putin is a hard product of the Soviet system, and forged in the chaos and uncertainty of the Yelstin Era in Russia. So, I can disagree with the distasteful crap he's pulled, and still like his drive, desire to see Russia get back on it's feet as a serious world power, willingness to get gak done, and love of the Motherland. The same can be said of Rodrigo Duterte. I don't agree with all of his methods or his choices of words. But I can admire his drive to get gak done, seeing the need to root out corruption/crime, to stamp out the drug trade, and desire to clean up his country.

Despite your view that I'm a disgusting ogre for admiring aspects of Duterte, it's no different than you admiring certain aspects of Stalin, who is one of the top three mass murderers in the 20th Century. Duterte is nowhere in Stalin's league.

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

The United Nations is a worthless joke that I lend no credence to. The U.S. taxpayers front 25% of the money for an organization

That's a deceiving figure because the U.N then reimburses the salary of the peacekeeping personal, most of which is going to be american. 25% is also the figure I know has been reported for peacekeeping financing, it might be different for overall financing (higher or lower).

For what it's worth, the U.S currently owes about 80% of the U.N arrears.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

The United Nations is a worthless joke that I lend no credence to. The U.S. taxpayers front 25% of the money for an organization

That's a deceiving figure because the U.N then reimburses the salary of the peacekeeping personal, most of which is going to be american. 25% is also the figure I know has been reported for peacekeeping financing, it might be different for overall financing (higher or lower).

For what it's worth, the U.S currently owes about 80% of the U.N arrears.

Which the US no longer pays dues being the US is the one leading UN actions around the world.

The US does pay its UN dues now, in fact it's the largest single contributor to the UN's budget.

Not all UN peace keeping forces are led by US forces or comprised of majority US forces.

In fact, checking the UN's info on current operations I don't think there are enough US personnel involved to make a majority contribution to any current mission.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/contributors/2016/apr16_4.pdf

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/resources/statistics/factsheet.shtml

 oldravenman3025 wrote:


It's not a "folksy joke" by our standards. I do agree it was tasteless as all hell. But I don't condemn people for off-color crap or shooting off their big mouth.


Different people have different standards of humor or love to troll the easily offended. I might not like it myself, but I don't get all bent out of shape about it. I have a thick skin.


I would advise you to never visit 4chan. You would probably go insane.

That's an awful lot of words to say 'that man is an a-hole'. It's okay to say he's an a-hole. He won't send a hitman after you for it.

Probably.

(As an aside, I'm actually a big fan of some of 4chan's creations - the Angry Marines spring to mind. Of course, there's a reason people keep calling it the cesspool of the internet...)

I just don't understand how this isn't clicking for some people. It's not off-color humor, it's monstrously disrespectful. Would you go to Anne Frank's grave and make Holocaust jokes? How is suggesting you would have liked to participate in this woman's gang rape any better? Then again, this is the guy that gets a free pass for his ties to death squads because he says the journalists he's killing are corrupt.

Hang on...where have I seen that before...

The guy is a total psychopath, unfit for office.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
The guy is a total psychopath, unfit for office.

Hey...wait....almost said Trump

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

Dreadwinter wrote:Well that is clearly corrupt journalism!

*puts fingers in ears and closes eyes* nananananananananananana Not listening! He is the hero we deserve and the hero we need!

/Sarcasm

Journalists who are not corrupt either have an ideological ax to grind, or are in it for the money (i.e. a paycheck). There has never been a such thing as "journalistic integrity". The image of a crusading journalist who's only concerned with truth and justice is a goddamned myth. Period.

I.... uh.... wait what?

That was sarcasm, right?

For the life of me he hasn't had a journalist assassinated.. Mention before when he got popped by a journalist for exposing his Mistress and that guy is still around

You should probably read the OP again, then. A journalist who was a vocal critic of his was murdered by gunmen on motorcycles; the case has yet to be solved. Something tells me it's going to stay that way.

 Spinner wrote:
The link I posted is a news source in the Phillipines. There's a recording. He's on camera, talking about a murdered lay missionary who had been gang raped, saying that it was a shame because she was so beautiful that he, the mayor, should have been first. This has been filmed, it's not any kind of spin by 'Western media'.

He tried to play it off as a folksy joke. That's not a folksy joke. People need to step away from the Robocop and Punisher fantasies and take a good, long look at what kind of sociopath this man actually is.

Even worse is that he said later that he WASN'T joking and was in fact dead serious about that comment.

He might as well go with it being that he's condemned with it.

So how many journalist death have been linked to him? How many suspected deaths of journalist can be attribute to him?

So is there any proof he going to another Marcos?

 Jihadin wrote:
He might as well go with it being that he's condemned with it.

So how many journalist death have been linked to him? How many suspected deaths of journalist can be attribute to him?

So is there any proof he going to another Marcos?

Why are you suddenly so interested in proof? Why won't you take our word for him being corrupt? Are you soft on crime?!

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
He might as well go with it being that he's condemned with it.

So how many journalist death have been linked to him? How many suspected deaths of journalist can be attribute to him?

So is there any proof he going to another Marcos?

Why are you suddenly so interested in proof? Why won't you take our word for him being corrupt? Are you soft on crime?!

How ridiculous! If he was corrupt, he would be dead.

This guy no Castro, Kim etc etc.
He has no links of Death Squads though he supports their actions verbally. I support this guy. 110%. The Ex Pats there support this guy 110%.

Edit

The US Marine that killed the Lady Boy there is getting life. He already mention he will not show any favoritism with any Nationals what's so ever if you break the law in his country.

 Jihadin wrote:

He has no links of Death Squads though he supports their actions verbally.

.............

 Jihadin wrote:

The Ex Pats there support this guy 110%.

I suspect the more sane ones have already started making preparations to leave, I certain would be.

Well, I'm sure if you willfully ignore all reporting on the man and his links to vigilante death squads, along with what he's said, how crap like this has gone down in the past, and basic common sense, he seems like a real stand-up guy.

If you're not the type to implicitly trust the grimy van with "free candy" spray-painted on the side (Look! Dark humor!), I really can't understand how you believe "if you're not corrupt, nothing bad will happen to you".

If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide.

If you're not a traitor, you'll support the Glorious State.

You have nothing to fear from Big Brother, citizen. We only have the vigilante murderers gun down bad people. You trust us to know who the bad people are, right? And that they were bad enough to get a summary execution without a trial?

Pick up the can Citizen. As for Ex Pats packing to leave. You beat your sweet butt the Drug Lord Ex Pats are packing.

Since there is a HUGE Number of American EX Pats there I guess they are like me eh

Wait though. Majority of them are Former US Military. Being the US Navy and Air Force had a huge presence there back in the days. So they must be like me in thought
Since I am in the deciding mode of which country to be an Ex Pat in (Thailand or Philippines). Philippines looking damn good at the moment.

Or maybe I know more about the situation then the lot of you

As for Dark Humor. Do not join the military.

 Jihadin wrote:

Since there is a HUGE Number of American EX Pats there I guess they are like me eh

Prove it.

 Jihadin wrote:

As for Dark Humor. Do not join the military.

Your 12 years too late.