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Silent Puffin? wrote:


 Vaktathi wrote:
basically anything newer than the 19th century that doesnt have to be manually reloaded after every trigger pull


That's all you need for hunting and the like, it would also do for 'self defence'.
a subjective argument at best, and such uses are not the only ones protected under the 2nd amendment.

And, again, this guy was a licensed and vetted armed security guard.


I'm sure the usual suspects will defend their right to bear arms with their 'cold dead hands' but I am sick and tired of dozens more people paying the price for hubris.
Out of a nation of over 300 million people, with about an equal number of firearms, the number of people killed by rifles of all kinds, much less "assault weapons" or however ones wishes to define it, is so low as to be statistically irrelevant, two hundred something (again, out of a population of well over 300 million) and dropping every year. Every once in a while there's a tragedy where a large number of people get shot, but we also have instances of people driving cars through crowds, riots, and other such tragic events that are rare but shocking.

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Do security guards generally carry AR-15s? I mostly think of them just have a pistol, if that.

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Remember when a lot of people were decrying Christianity because an overweight backwoods Kentuckian didn't want to do her duty to give out marriage licenses?

Remember those same people not decrying Islam even when many of its adherents are quite literally murdering gay men? Yes, I know, something about how most Muslims are against this type of barbarity. Though strangely silent or muted.


My deepest sympathies and solidarity to the gay community worldwide. These ISIS fethers are gonna find out the West supports and loves our members that are only as their God made them. And in time, we'll convert them, either at the end of a JDAM or the end of a nice fat donger.
   
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DutchWinsAll wrote:
Remember when a lot of people were decrying Christianity because an overweight backwoods Kentuckian didn't want to do her duty to give out marriage licenses?

Remember those same people not decrying Islam even when many of its adherents are quite literally murdering gay men? Yes, I know, something about how most Muslims are against this type of barbarity. Though strangely silent or muted.


Daily reminder that I get banned from Dakka semi-monthly for being "too mean" while idiots like this post freely.

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 BlaxicanX wrote:
DutchWinsAll wrote:
Remember when a lot of people were decrying Christianity because an overweight backwoods Kentuckian didn't want to do her duty to give out marriage licenses?

Remember those same people not decrying Islam even when many of its adherents are quite literally murdering gay men? Yes, I know, something about how most Muslims are against this type of barbarity. Though strangely silent or muted.


Daily reminder that I get banned from Dakka semi-monthly for being "too mean" while idiots like this post freely.

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So people weren't saying Christianity was wrong when that Kim Davis thing was going on? There weren't memes all over the interwebz? I'd remind you of rule 1, but it honestly doesn't really bother me.

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See this is what I am talking about. Altering policies of refugee acceptance, going into the spiral of gun control debate, talking about whether or not Islam is to blame... None of these things go in the direction of real changes to address the issue of mass shootings. To be fair gun control could involve changes that would affect the problem, but what changes and how they'd affect it are irrelevant because that political topic is a stalemate right now. To actually address the situation involves different topics and different discussions which by and large people don't engage in. Which brings us back to people wanting things to change but not doing anything about it.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
See this is what I am talking about. Altering policies of refugee acceptance, going into the spiral of gun control debate, talking about whether or not Islam is to blame... None of these things go in the direction of real changes to address the issue of mass shootings. To be fair gun control could involve changes that would affect the problem, but what changes and how they'd affect it are irrelevant because that political topic is a stalemate right now. To actually address the situation involves different topics and different discussions which by and large people don't engage in. Which brings us back to people wanting things to change but not doing anything about it.


Except in this case, gun control and refugees have nothing to do with it. But Islam does. Denying the virulent homophobia in Islam (all Abrahamic religions really) is just proverbially burying ones head in the sand.

I support intelligent gun control. I think America has a massive duty to take in more refugees from an area we fethed up massively. I also think Islam needs to get in line with the modern world and start treating women, gay males, non-believers, slaves I mean foreign workers like you know, actual fething human beings.

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DutchWinsAll wrote:
Remember when a lot of people were decrying Christianity because an overweight backwoods Kentuckian didn't want to do her duty to give out marriage licenses?

Remember those same people not decrying Islam even when many of its adherents are quite literally murdering gay men? Yes, I know, something about how most Muslims are against this type of barbarity. Though strangely silent or muted.


My deepest sympathies and solidarity to the gay community worldwide. These ISIS fethers are gonna find out the West supports and loves our members that are only as their God made them. And in time, we'll convert them, either at the end of a JDAM or the end of a nice fat donger.
Ah, you must have missed the giant pile of the entire internet and half of this bloody thread decrying Islam. I know it was hard to miss, so I thought I should help point it out for those of us born without functioning eyes or that have giant axes to grind.



   
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 Goliath wrote:
DutchWinsAll wrote:
Remember when a lot of people were decrying Christianity because an overweight backwoods Kentuckian didn't want to do her duty to give out marriage licenses?

Remember those same people not decrying Islam even when many of its adherents are quite literally murdering gay men? Yes, I know, something about how most Muslims are against this type of barbarity. Though strangely silent or muted.


My deepest sympathies and solidarity to the gay community worldwide. These ISIS fethers are gonna find out the West supports and loves our members that are only as their God made them. And in time, we'll convert them, either at the end of a JDAM or the end of a nice fat donger.
Ah, you must have missed the giant pile of the entire internet and half of this bloody thread decrying Islam. I know it was hard to miss, so I thought I should help point it out for those of us born without functioning eyes or that have giant axes to grind.




Oh there's plenty of violent Islamophobic rhetoric, especially online. But those weren't the people decrying Christians during the Kim Davis debacle.
   
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DutchWinsAll wrote:
So people weren't saying Christianity was wrong when that Kim Davis thing was going on? There weren't memes all over the interwebz? I'd remind you of rule 1, but it honestly doesn't really bother me.


Yeah, people were saying that. People were also saying that not all Christians agree with Kim Davis and it's unfair to blame the religion as a whole for the actions of its worst members.

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DutchWinsAll wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
See this is what I am talking about. Altering policies of refugee acceptance, going into the spiral of gun control debate, talking about whether or not Islam is to blame... None of these things go in the direction of real changes to address the issue of mass shootings. To be fair gun control could involve changes that would affect the problem, but what changes and how they'd affect it are irrelevant because that political topic is a stalemate right now. To actually address the situation involves different topics and different discussions which by and large people don't engage in. Which brings us back to people wanting things to change but not doing anything about it.


Except in this case, gun control and refugees have nothing to do with it. But Islam does. Denying the virulent homophobia in Islam (all Abrahamic religions really) is just proverbially burying ones head in the sand.

I support intelligent gun control. I think America has a massive duty to take in more refugees from an area we fethed up massively. I also think Islam needs to get in line with the modern world and start treating women, gay males, non-believers, slaves I mean foreign workers like you know, actual fething human beings.


That might help. Alot in fact. Its attitudes on some areas is rather out of scnc with west.

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 Silent Puffin? wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:

So you think.


So I know, its all down to rate of fire. You could of course be delusional enough to think that an AR 15 has the same rate of fire as a bolt action rifle....


 Vaktathi wrote:
basically anything newer than the 19th century that doesnt have to be manually reloaded after every trigger pull


That's all you need for hunting and the like, it would also do for 'self defence'.

I'm sure the usual suspects will defend their right to bear arms with their 'cold dead hands' but I am sick and tired of dozens more people paying the price for hubris. This kind of craziness happens far, far too often.




The type of operating system or action is irrelevant. Charles Whitman did plenty of damage with a bolt-action rifle. If another mass shooting took place with a scoped, bolt-action rifle, you would be screaming to ban those terrible, horrible, nasty old "sniper rifles".

Andrew Kehoe, who committed the worst school massacre in U.S. history back in 1927, used explosives.


Out of the top ten mass shooters, with the highest body counts, only three are American. The other seven took place in countries where gun ownership was far more regulated (then and now) than the United States.


The point, ultimately, is that if somebody wants to kill a large number of people, they'll find a way, semi-autos banned or not. And I (like so many other Americans) won't stand for a Constitutional rights being tampled on because of hysteria and politics based on emotion.


There are semi-automatic hunting rifles on the market, by the way. And the first commercially available self-loaders were sold back in the 19th Century. And the most common operating systems used in semi-autos have been around for over a half-century. Funny that since the 1990s, that they've magically transformed into OMGWTFBBQMASSKILLINGMACHINESOFWAR!!!11111!ONEELEVENTY11!1.

What that tells me is that we have a PEOPLE PROBLEM, not a gun problem. If you would argue from logic, you would see that too.

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DutchWinsAll wrote:
So people weren't saying Christianity was wrong when that Kim Davis thing was going on? There weren't memes all over the interwebz?
People aren't saying that radical islam is a problem? Hell, there are no people who say that Islam in general is a problem?

Do you read what you're typing before you post it? Do you have the basic intelligence required to understand how slimey and vile it is to use a tragedy like this as an opportunity to make idiotic"gotcha" statements like the ones you're making in this thread?
   
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Ok say we all agree Islam is a problem. That leaves us in the same spot; without anything having been done.

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Seaward wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Single shot? Afaik they all had full-auto assault rifles that had been illegally converted from decomissioned Chechoslovak and Yugoslav military weapons.

No, that's impossible, because France has strong gun laws.
Yes, but Slovakia doesn't.

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Mdlbuildr wrote:
 Vaktathi wrote:
The shooter apparently was US born, and was a state licensed security guard who had passed all sorts of screenings, short of disallowing arms and somehow magically knowing what people will do 30 years into their lives, gun control and refugees/immigration really has very little to do with this.



Errr, yeah but he was under FBI investigation twice and was a "person of interest". How in the world does someone like that get a license to carry? I'm as Pro Firearm as you're going to get, but that's screwed up.

Because simply having a list stating "this dude was interviewed by FBI 'x' times, thus shouldn't pass any background check" is pants on cray-cray. You have to have a lil' bit more due process... thanks to our 5th amendment.

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And so the cleansing begins.

A Breitbart article is claiming that sites like Facebook and Reddit are deliberately removing anti-islam pages/topics.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/12/facebook-deletes-pamela-gellers-stop-islamization-america-page-orlando-attack/

Breitbart wrote:Facebook Deletes Pamela Geller’s ‘Stop Islamization Of America’ Page After Orlando Attack


Breitbart wrote:Reddit Mods Delete Orlando Shooting Posts Because Attacker Was Muslim

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 BlaxicanX wrote:
DutchWinsAll wrote:
So people weren't saying Christianity was wrong when that Kim Davis thing was going on? There weren't memes all over the interwebz?
People aren't saying that radical islam is a problem? Hell, there are no people who say that Islam in general is a problem?

Do you read what you're typing before you post it? Do you have the basic intelligence required to understand how slimey and vile it is to use a tragedy like this as an opportunity to make idiotic"gotcha" statements like the ones you're making in this thread?


Of course people have said all of the above comments. My "slimey (sic) vile and idiotic" comments are about the people that were quick to condemn Christianity at that point, and yet seem to do extreme mental gymnastics to absolve Islam. There's not many areas in any Islamic majority country that are even accepting of gay men, and there are quite a few that actively murder them. I don't think things would be much different here if we let Christians have total political power, but the reality is we don't let them have that type of influence.

All your snark and vitriol aside, I probably am too close to this story to be objective and level-headed. I'm not gay personally, but my best friend, several other good friends, my uncle, my cousin, my aunt (I think you see where I'm going) are all gay. And to me, this wasn't just an attack on America and the West. This was an attack on our beliefs. The fact that we can care and love for others different from us. The fact we accept that some guys like guys and some girls like girls and some like both.

With that, I should probably bow out. I'll leave it to others to try and pretend that making a gun with a bayonet lug illegal would have prevented this, or that Christianity wasn't pulled kicking and screaming out of dark-age ideology by other Christians.
   
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DutchWinsAll wrote:
I'll leave it to others to try and pretend that making a gun with a bayonet lug illegal would have prevented this

Who was doing that?
DutchWinsAll wrote:
or that Christianity wasn't pulled kicking and screaming out of dark-age ideology by other Christians.

What does that have to do with this?


 
   
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Some statements of note (I don't know if this merits a link in the OP;

President Barack Obama,
Spoiler:



Republican Candidate Donald Trump,
Spoiler:
Last night, our nation was attacked by a radical Islamic terrorist. It was the worst terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11, and the second of its kind in 6 months. My deepest sympathy and support goes out to the victims, the wounded, and their families.
In his remarks today, President Obama disgracefully refused to even say the words 'Radical Islam'. For that reason alone, he should step down. If Hillary Clinton, after this attack, still cannot say the two words 'Radical Islam' she should get out of this race for the Presidency.

If we do not get tough and smart real fast, we are not going to have a country anymore. Because our leaders are weak, I said this was going to happen -- and it is only going to get worse. I am trying to save lives and prevent the next terrorist attack. We can't afford to be politically correct anymore.

The terrorist, Omar Mir Saddique Mateen, is the son of an immigrant from Afghanistan who openly published his support for the Afghanistani Taliban and even tried to run for President of Afghanistan. According to Pew, 99% of people in Afghanistan support oppressive Sharia Law.

We admit more than 100,000 lifetime migrants from the Middle East each year. Since 9/11, hundreds of migrants and their children have been implicated in terrorism in the United States.


Hillary Clinton wants to dramatically increase admissions from the Middle East, bringing in many hundreds of thousands during a first term -- and we will have no way to screen them, pay for them, or prevent the second generation from radicalizing.

We need to protect all Americans, of all backgrounds and all beliefs, from Radical Islamic Terrorism - which has no place in an open and tolerant society. Radical Islam advocates hate for women, gays, Jews, Christians and all Americans. I am going to be a President for all Americans, and I am going to protect and defend all Americans. We are going to make America safe again and great again for everyone.


Democratic Candidate Hillary Clinton,
Spoiler:
I join Americans in praying for the victims of the attack in Orlando, their families and the first responders who did everything they could to save lives.
This was an act of terror. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies are hard at work, and we will learn more in the hours and days ahead. For now, we can say for certain that we need to redouble our efforts to defend our country from threats at home and abroad. That means defeating international terror groups, working with allies and partners to go after them wherever they are, countering their attempts to recruit people here and everywhere, and hardening our defenses at home. It also means refusing to be intimidated and staying true to our values.
This was also an act of hate. The gunman attacked an LGBT nightclub during Pride Month. To the LGBT community: please know that you have millions of allies across our country. I am one of them. We will keep fighting for your right to live freely, openly and without fear. Hate has absolutely no place in America.
Finally, we need to keep guns like the ones used last night out of the hands of terrorists or other violent criminals. This is the deadliest mass shooting in the history of the United States and it reminds us once more that weapons of war have no place on our streets.
This is a time to stand together and resolve to do everything we can to defend our communities and country.


Senator Ted Cruz (R-Tx)
Spoiler:
Our nation is at war. From 9/11 to the Boston Marathon, from Fort Hood to Chattanooga, from San Bernardino to last night's horrific attack in Orlando, radical Islamic terrorism has declared jihad on America. Early reports indicate the Orlando terrorist had pledged his allegiance to ISIS, and he had previously been investigated by the FBI. And yet, as with the prior attacks, we were not able to act to stop this act of vicious terrorism that has now murdered 50 and injured more than 50 others.
Our hearts go out to those killed and wounded last night. Our prayers are with their families, and with all their grieving loved ones.

It is a time for action. We need a Commander in Chief who will speak the truth, and who will unleash the full force and fury of the American military to utterly destroy ISIS and its affiliates. We need to pass the Expatriate Terrorist Act, so that known ISIS terrorists cannot use U.S. passports to return to America and wage jihad. We need a President who is serious - who will identify the enemy by name and do everything necessary to defeat it.

The next few days will be sadly predictable. Democrats will try to use this attack to change the subject. As a matter of rigid ideology, far too many Democrats - from Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton - will refuse to utter the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' They will claim this attack, like they claimed every previous attack, was isolated and had nothing to do with the vicious Islamist theology that is daily waging war on us across the globe. And they will try to exploit this terror attack to undermine the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms of law-abiding Americans.

Enough is enough. What we need is for every American - Democrat and Republican - to come together, abandon political correctness, and unite in defeating radical Islamic terrorism.

ISIS doesn't just target soldiers. They don't just target Republicans. Or Jews. They also target Christians and fellow Muslims. They target each and every one of us. As we saw this morning, they target the gay and lesbian community. Their objective, which they broadcast worldwide, is to murder or forcibly convert every single American.

For all the Democrats who are loud champions of the gay and lesbian community whenever there is a culture battle waging, now is the opportunity to speak out against an ideology that calls for the murder of gays and lesbians. ISIS and the theocracy in Iran (supported with American taxpayer dollars) regularly murder homosexuals, throwing them from buildings and burying them under rocks. This is wrong, it is evil, and we must all stand against it. Every human being has a right to live according to his or her faith and conscience, and nobody has a right to murder someone who doesn't share their faith or sexual orientation. If you're a Democratic politician and you really want to stand for LGBT, show real courage and stand up against the vicious ideology that has targeted our fellow Americans for murder.

Today, all of America stands in solidarity with the people of Orlando. All of us should lift them up in prayer, demand action, and if you have any information about the Orlando shooter or potential radical Islamic terror plots, please act to keep us safe by using the FBI tips website: https://tips.fbi.gov.

   
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 Breotan wrote:
DutchWinsAll wrote:
I'll leave it to others to try and pretend that making a gun with a bayonet lug illegal would have prevented this

Who was doing that?

The people that support the assault weapons ban, or more specifically my Governor Cuomo.

 Breotan wrote:

DutchWinsAll wrote:
or that Christianity wasn't pulled kicking and screaming out of dark-age ideology by other Christians.

What does that have to do with this?



Only that I think Islam can change, but that change can only come from within. The Catholic Church once burned witches and tortured non-believers. They didn't change on their own. Christian liberals and reformers forced that change. And it's a battle that's still going on, but one that the liberal reformers are winning. The pope has come out saying its basically not that bad to be gay, while many respected imams and mullahs are calling for their murder. Of course each faith has some of both in their midst, but I guess I respond more to the ones that are vocal.

Groups like Westboro are a sick joke because they have such little power, even within Christianity. Groups like that do have a lot of power within Islam though, and that's a fight thats worth fighting to me.


EDIT: Probably the biggest reason I'm scared from an act like this is the fact that if this was 4 months later, if this happened on 10/11 instead of 6/11, were looking at a Trump presidency, What I once thought was for the lulz is actually terrifying me now, and things like this will make that happen without a doubt.

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Well, at least Trump stayed honest when he said hundreds were implicated... he just left out that very, very few were actually guilty of anything.
It does smell ISIS related. Supposedly he claimed to be an ISIS fighter to the 911 operator. And ISIS has claimed that he was in fact, one of theirs.


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 Breotan wrote:
And so the cleansing begins.

A Breitbart article is claiming that sites like Facebook and Reddit are deliberately removing anti-islam pages/topics.



First, don't source fething Breitbart and expect us to take it seriously. Second, so? If they want to post Islamaphobia, they can do it on another site. The whining about "censorhsip" and "free speech" is fething pathetic, especially from the racist, Islamophobic gak-head that have become so prevalent on Reddit. And the mods of r/news are fully within their right to try and put a stop to it on their sub. If people want, they can make their own Islamic hate sub (or, alternatively, use the one that already exists, r/the_donald ).

THIS is the sort of people we are dealing with here.
More for pleasure reading
https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4nqg3h/50_slain_50_injurued_how_many_will_be_enough/
https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4npm9h/hey_liberals_if_we_should_ban_guns_because_a_few/



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Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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DutchWinsAll wrote:
So people weren't saying Christianity was wrong when that Kim Davis thing was going on? There weren't memes all over the interwebz? I'd remind you of rule 1, but it honestly doesn't really bother me.


I can't speak to the internet at large, but from what I recall, people on Dakka weren't generally blaming Christianity at large for Kim Davis's actions. In fact, the going argument from my memory was that she was free to believe or do whatever she wanted unless it removed the rights of someone else.

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DutchWinsAll wrote:
Groups like Westboro are a sick joke because they have such little power, even within Christianity.


This is not true at all. Remember, we aren't all that far from Cruz (still a "respectable" mainstream candidate at that point) sharing the stage with and being endorsed by an anti-gay preacher who believes that god's law is the death penalty for homosexuality. The only difference between him and the Muslim guy quoted earlier is that in the US advocating murder is a crime, so he added a little "but we shouldn't kill them yet so they have time to come to Jesus" disclaimer. And that's not even counting the large number of anti-gay Christians who, while they stop short of advocating murder, are not at all shy of expressing their hate.

As for Westboro, let's not forget that they didn't really become a target of near-universal hatred until they started protesting at the funerals of US soldiers and claiming that they were burning in hell for fighting in the army of a gay-loving nation. Had they stuck to attacking gay people directly and not put themselves on the wrong side of "support our troops" they probably wouldn't be considered such irrelevant extremists.

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 oldravenman3025 wrote:
The type of operating system or action is irrelevant. Charles Whitman did plenty of damage with a bolt-action rifle.


I only know this because I literally almost posted this exact example earlier in the thread, but he actually used a M1 carbine mostly, in addition to a rifle and shotgun. Up until a couple of hours ago, I also thought it was solely a bolt action.


DutchWinsAll wrote:
The people that support the assault weapons ban, or more specifically my Governor Cuomo..


Barrel shrouds kill 600 children per second.

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Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.

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Since I see Breotan, Ouze, and Whembly, and IIRC, you were all involved in this discussion:

ISIS hits in the US. Apology, any of you? I seem to recall a few years back you all had nasty things to say about me as a person when I predicted this sort of outcome.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
And so the cleansing begins.

A Breitbart article is claiming that sites like Facebook and Reddit are deliberately removing anti-islam pages/topics.



First, don't source fething Breitbart and expect us to take it seriously. Second, so? If they want to post Islamaphobia, they can do it on another site. The whining about "censorhsip" and "free speech" is fething pathetic, especially from the racist, Islamophobic gak-head that have become so prevalent on Reddit. And the mods of r/news are fully within their right to try and put a stop to it on their sub. If people want, they can make their own Islamic hate sub (or, alternatively, use the one that already exists, r/the_donald ).

THIS is the sort of people we are dealing with here.
More for pleasure reading
https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4nqg3h/50_slain_50_injurued_how_many_will_be_enough/
https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4npm9h/hey_liberals_if_we_should_ban_guns_because_a_few/


Not to be overly condescending, but it seems like a strange tack to first claim that a news source is unreliable, then immediatly confirm said source's allegation (but claiming it was a well deserved censoring! ).

In any case, it's worth pointing out that the allegation that there was mass deletions is beyond question: the Mods of /r/news have explicitly admitted they "did a poor job reacting". That this is... hmm, let's call it an understatement, but if the threads linked above are insufficiently amusing, there are plenty of threads (and screen caps) on https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/ addressing the issue.

   
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 BaronIveagh wrote:
Since I see Breotan, Ouze, and Whembly, and IIRC, you were all involved in this discussion:

ISIS hits in the US. Apology, any of you? I seem to recall a few years back you all had nasty things to say about me as a person when I predicted this sort of outcome.


lolwut? I don't recall that. Feel free to refresh me.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.

 Flinty wrote:
The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
 
   
 
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