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Infrequently. A few times in the years I bought old, old WD.

 Talys wrote:
@Davor - For like, 20+ years, White Dwarf has been primarily an advertising vehicle for GW stuff But, like, it's not you HAVE to buy it. Most of the core game information gets printed somewhere else (digital or print codex or dataslate, etc.); most of the advertisements and photos are on their website or free app nearly concurrently for free.

For must of its run it was lots of articles sprinkled with advertising while the last few years of its monthly run was advertising sprinkled with some articles.

US price is for 3 free magazines. That's enough value for me to go ahead and subscribe. Plus I have website credit so no real loss.

 Hulksmash wrote:
US price is for 3 free magazines. That's enough value for me to go ahead and subscribe. Plus I have website credit so no real loss.

That was my thought too. I will get a year sub and reevaluate from there. I doubt the cover mount is going to be something quite as good as they are advertising, and I doubt it will be a regular occurrence, but still looking forward to painting guides and new rules. If they release new stuff for either of my armies in there anywhere in the year, it will probably be worth it.

 Azazelx wrote:
Welcome to all advertising and marketing. You expect them to have articles or even to mention how people are unhappy with their prices, or show people with dour faces? I mean, really?

Your complaints aren't realistic in the slightest for any company.

Yeah. Nobody makes negative posts of their own products. Seen any company do that? I haven't.

Advertising their product I can take. It's expected. It just went to ridiculously blatant and boring style. Advertise how fun the hobby is and inspire. That's good way to sell. That's still advertisement but not annoying one.

Hopefully monthly WD can deliver enough that(I don't even require every page to be such gems) to be worthwhile. GW has been taking enough steps lately that I'm actually hopefull and since we fixed 40k rulewise I'm actually starting to feel like buying new models from GW again.

I subscribed. It's nearly half the price I was paying for visions across the year. I'm intrigued by what the bonus gift could be.

I'll buy copies that have substantive content for AoS, B@C, Deathwatch Overkill and Warhammer Quest. Their new board games have been really solid and I like AoS, too.

JamesY wrote:I subscribed. It's nearly half the price I was paying for visions across the year. I'm intrigued by what the bonus gift could be.

Wasn't there a deal for existing subscribers of Visions of WD? I, too, am intrigued as to what the special gift could be. Hoping for a model that is actually useful to me. Hell, I would love it if they included a coupon or something that I can spend on the model of my choice.

privateer4hire wrote:I'll buy copies that have substantive content for AoS, B@C, Deathwatch Overkill and Warhammer Quest. Their new board games have been really solid and I like AoS, too.

Hoping for the same. Content for 40K, AoS, and DW:OK more than anything though. I want new adversaries for DW:OK especially. Give me a reason to buy small amounts of Xenos armies!

Simple. If its like the glory days of WD, maybe I will subscribe. If not, well....I will just ignore it like Visions and WDW.

There may have been, I don't recall exactly. I was staff when it came out so I got both magazines for free until leaving, otherwise I might have done the same then.

 Bottle wrote:

"Don't you want you want to take a leap of faith? Or become an old man, filled with regrets, waiting to die alone without a big pile of White Dwarfs to pass on?"

I so need to add all my old White Dwarf issues to my will.......

is WD back to 9$ in US? if so that's awesome for monthly tag price

TheWanderer wrote:

 Bottle wrote:

"Don't you want you want to take a leap of faith? Or become an old man, filled with regrets, waiting to die alone without a big pile of White Dwarfs to pass on?"

I so need to add all my old White Dwarf issues to my will.......

You know the only WD id like to keep is the first one i ever truly. bought myself, it was the one with the free Goliath figure ( the rest were hand me downs from relatives ), but alas i do not even have that one any more.

I really cant trust GW on a magazine anymore, Then again the last magazine i ever bought was imagineFX

For a few years I bought White Dwarf religiously every month, and read it cover to cover. My favourite part being the battle reports which I'd always try to save for last. I also loved it when they got readers to create articles, and attempted more than one of their homebrew scenarios or scenery pieces.
The content started to drop noticably in line with the move to only really being a catalog for their stuff and no longer promoted being creative, sometimes actually actively discouraging it. I gradually stopped buying it. With the change to the weekly edition and Warhammer visions I stopped entirely.
This change back to it's monthly slot is only really of interest to me if the content improves. There have been some positive changes in the past few months so here's hoping White dwarf once again becomes a must read.

Since it's a pre-order, does anyone know if they charge you now, or in September ?

I will wait and see what they decide to do for content and buy at my FLGS.
If they make it more Visions than the WD weekly, it would most likely die like a dog.
Maybe we can be reintroduced to what employee "characters" remain with the company.

I have been around for a while but if I see any more articles of an old grognard waxing poetic about how we can adapt the game to what we want with our own rules... it would be dead to me.

My WH Visions subscription will be replaced with the new WD. Fortunately the sub will get extended by half a year according to the letter from GW. 12 issues for 40 EUR is quite a deal. Visions will be re-released later this year and changes to a quarterly release.

I am a bit disappointted that I renewed my Visions sub just days before this announcement and they didnt say a word as they took my money knowing that they were planning to change what i was subbing to...

It isnt that bad, you will get at least 15 issues now

3 additional WDs as an offer to Visions subscribers.
August Visions will get skipped, so there is another free issue added. In my case they made it 6 additional issues. Just wait for the letter to arrive.

GW's ad says Monthly WD will combine Weekly + Visions content.

It appears someone got on their high horse at my last comment!

Look mate, I wasn't banging on about advertising nor do I want to see pictures of grumpy people!Although now I think of it it would be fun!(Do you know what fun is?). The point I was making was that they are missing the point of WD. It is about the games not the bloody staff writers! Perfect example;In one of the issues there was a big spread about the writers having a jolly good time(fun,eh?)in some underground place.Relevance to WD? Absolutely nothing.I checked.So why is it in WD??? i don't care what they do in their spare time,yet it's somehow hobby related?

Will we ever see an article on playing one of their games on a budget?Hah! They've priced many players out of the game,surely there's a need for one seeing as they are now trying to 'connect' with community? I doubt it because it's all about profit.You know when WD got boring?When they allowed advertising declare war on the hobby,that was when fun went out the window.

Will we ever see something like a genuine letters page in WD, or even on their new web pages where they are open and honest in their response instead of ignoring the bleeding obvious? Hah! Because criticism makes them run away and not speak to anybody.How can something improve if you don't listen?

Like many similar arguments your jab;'If you don't like it,don't buy it' is flippant. I'd buy it if I thought it was worthwhile but it isn't.

Yes there should be adverts like you said.But what I'm saying is that the WD should be predominantly about the hobby first and advertising second,because let's face it if you are into 40k you already know what to expect without getting it rammed down you throat each month that you need to buy the latest shiny thing otherwise your army is crap!,you know what you are going to buy and what you won't.
WD should be about having fun;not a bunch of patronising people masquerading as having fun all in the aim of profit;that's what winds me up!

Before I give up on this response let's review exactly where their hard sell tactics have got them;
Warhammer fantasy;GONE!
Age of Sigmar; On the slopes!
Revenue;Dipping every year!
Many of their shops closed;Bravo! You've shot yourself in the foot
Communication with the community BUT only on their terms;Joy to the world! North Korea must be proud!
Just shows you what happens when hard nosed advertising decides fun is bad for profit.

I am very excited about this. I pre ordered

Slipstream wrote:
It appears someone got on their high horse at my last comment!

Spoiler:

Look mate, I wasn't banging on about advertising nor do I want to see pictures of grumpy people!Although now I think of it it would be fun!(Do you know what fun is?). The point I was making was that they are missing the point of WD. It is about the games not the bloody staff writers! Perfect example;In one of the issues there was a big spread about the writers having a jolly good time(fun,eh?)in some underground place.Relevance to WD? Absolutely nothing.I checked.So why is it in WD??? i don't care what they do in their spare time,yet it's somehow hobby related?

Will we ever see an article on playing one of their games on a budget?Hah! They've priced many players out of the game,surely there's a need for one seeing as they are now trying to 'connect' with community? I doubt it because it's all about profit.You know when WD got boring?When they allowed advertising declare war on the hobby,that was when fun went out the window.

Will we ever see something like a genuine letters page in WD, or even on their new web pages where they are open and honest in their response instead of ignoring the bleeding obvious? Hah! Because criticism makes them run away and not speak to anybody.How can something improve if you don't listen?

Like many similar arguments your jab;'If you don't like it,don't buy it' is flippant. I'd buy it if I thought it was worthwhile but it isn't.

Yes there should be adverts like you said.But what I'm saying is that the WD should be predominantly about the hobby first and advertising second,because let's face it if you are into 40k you already know what to expect without getting it rammed down you throat each month that you need to buy the latest shiny thing otherwise your army is crap!,you know what you are going to buy and what you won't.
WD should be about having fun;not a bunch of patronising people masquerading as having fun all in the aim of profit;that's what winds me up!

Before I give up on this response let's review exactly where their hard sell tactics have got them;
Warhammer fantasy;GONE!
Age of Sigmar; On the slopes!
Revenue;Dipping every year!
Many of their shops closed;Bravo! You've shot yourself in the foot
Communication with the community BUT only on their terms;Joy to the world! North Korea must be proud!
Just shows you what happens when hard nosed advertising decides fun is bad for profit.

Slipstream wrote:
It appears someone got on their high horse at my last comment!

Look mate, I wasn't banging on about advertising nor do I want to see pictures of grumpy people!Although now I think of it it would be fun!(Do you know what fun is?). The point I was making was that they are missing the point of WD. It is about the games not the bloody staff writers! Perfect example;In one of the issues there was a big spread about the writers having a jolly good time(fun,eh?)in some underground place.Relevance to WD? Absolutely nothing.I checked.So why is it in WD??? i don't care what they do in their spare time,yet it's somehow hobby related?

Will we ever see an article on playing one of their games on a budget?Hah! They've priced many players out of the game,surely there's a need for one seeing as they are now trying to 'connect' with community? I doubt it because it's all about profit.You know when WD got boring?When they allowed advertising declare war on the hobby,that was when fun went out the window.

Will we ever see something like a genuine letters page in WD, or even on their new web pages where they are open and honest in their response instead of ignoring the bleeding obvious? Hah! Because criticism makes them run away and not speak to anybody.How can something improve if you don't listen?

Like many similar arguments your jab;'If you don't like it,don't buy it' is flippant. I'd buy it if I thought it was worthwhile but it isn't.

Yes there should be adverts like you said.But what I'm saying is that the WD should be predominantly about the hobby first and advertising second,because let's face it if you are into 40k you already know what to expect without getting it rammed down you throat each month that you need to buy the latest shiny thing otherwise your army is crap!,you know what you are going to buy and what you won't.
WD should be about having fun;not a bunch of patronising people masquerading as having fun all in the aim of profit;that's what winds me up!

Before I give up on this response let's review exactly where their hard sell tactics have got them;
Warhammer fantasy;GONE!
Age of Sigmar; On the slopes!
Revenue;Dipping every year!
Many of their shops closed;Bravo! You've shot yourself in the foot
Communication with the community BUT only on their terms;Joy to the world! North Korea must be proud!
Just shows you what happens when hard nosed advertising decides fun is bad for profit.

Yet, what you complained about was that the magazine showed people having fun, and failed to mention discontent about high prices. Which is a completely ridiculous criticism, and I'm sure people justifiably concluded that you were being ridiculous.

TheWanderer wrote:
I am a bit disappointted that I renewed my Visions sub just days before this announcement and they didnt say a word as they took my money knowing that they were planning to change what i was subbing to...

Ah so GW hasn't changed much then did they? Just like how they kept selling 6th edition knowing 7th was coming out one week later. Well here is hoping you get a good deal out of it. I would call Customer Support and see what they can do for you. They are really good about this. The one thing I hope that GW doesn't change is their customer support. They are one of the best.

I'm not sure current GWis even capable of great articles that WD had more than a decade ago. So many staffers and designers, sculptors and artists are gone that I liked.

If they can really turn it around and have detailed designer's notes on new kits, good background articles, some likeable guys doing Tales of X painters, conversion section etc, I'll be a subscriber

Just imagine a real designer's rundown of the Blight Kings set with a detailed list of ideas that were brainstormed, concept sketches, technical limitations or successes, etc.. And a studio/store conversion competition focused on them for the same issue. Or for Silver Tower. What could've been.

I'm glad it's going back to monthly, but I'm a bit annoyed that I'll be left with a monthly Visions subscription :(

I originally had the white dwarf subscription, but when Visions came out it got automatically switched over to that. To be fair, it's really cheap - but I just wish I had the subscription the way it was before!

I was under the impression that Visions and the Weekly White Dwarf are being replaced by the Monthly White Dwarf

 adamsouza wrote:
I was under the impression that Visions and the Weekly White Dwarf are being replaced by the Monthly White Dwarf

Ah cool, thanks. I hadn't picked up on that. So basically they're resetting things.

I'm guessing someone finally figured out we would be more likley to drop $80 for a years subscription instead of shelling out $260, buying it for $5 every week.

Also, making it a monthly magazine again gives them more time to actually create content for it, and hopefully allows for the creation of actual content.

 Ankhalagon wrote:
Simple. If its like the glory days of WD, maybe I will subscribe. If not, well....I will just ignore it like Visions and WDW.

Things are never as glorious as they seem to have been in the past when we were younger. Rose coloured glasses and all that. I've been reading through my old WDs recently (RT-era and Sawyer-era), and some of it it awesome but quite a lot is the same ham-fisted sales pitch that it ever was. Even the canonised Tale of Four Gamers has FAKE!!! photos of them pretending to buy their new models at a GW retail store. Which look just as fake now as they did the first time I saw them. Goes back to my point earlier of the same complaints that have been hovering around WD for the past 25 years.