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Davor wrote:

You haven't learned have you?

Sorry, I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.

I might actually subscribe. I missed the once a month magazine. And it motivates me to game/paint and so on.

 Bottle wrote:
Gonna get a subscription, first subscription to White Dwarf ever :-)

I wouldn't. Buying something before even knowing what it's going to be? For me it's a wait and see. If anything, it will be saving me money buy not buying every week and only buy what I need. After all if I pre buy now it's $7 Canadian an issue (if not more) which is quite a bit for garbage. Until I see White Dwarf is not garbage then I will maybe get a subscription if I keep buying monthly, but history has proven it's self time and time again, GW can't do nothing correct lately when it comes to publishing books/magazines. So for me it's a wait and see. No way am I jumping all in on this. j

All I know, it just takes 2 or 3 garbage issues to take away your savings from pre-ordering so maybe it's cheaper to just buy monthly and not buy the issues you want.

Davor wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Gonna get a subscription, first subscription to White Dwarf ever :-)

I wouldn't. Buying something before even knowing what it's going to be? For me it's a wait and see. If anything, it will be saving me money buy not buying every week and only buy what I need. After all if I pre buy now it's $7 Canadian an issue (if not more) which is quite a bit for garbage. Until I see White Dwarf is not garbage then I will maybe get a subscription if I keep buying monthly, but history has proven it's self time and time again, GW can't do nothing correct lately when it comes to publishing books/magazines. So for me it's a wait and see. No way am I jumping all in on this. j

All I know, it just takes 2 or 3 garbage issues to take away your savings from pre-ordering so maybe it's cheaper to just buy monthly and not buy the issues you want.

Very much this.

GW's handling of White Dwarf in the last years has stripped any benefit of the doubt they might have had when it comes to this once hallowed magazine. Pre-ordering this on nothing but air and sweet promises is... "highly optimistic" to say the least.

I've had the digital sub for a year now and actually enjoy it. Not sure how others were getting items a week early, but still worthy of basically $2 week.

Davor wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Gonna get a subscription, first subscription to White Dwarf ever :-)

After all if I pre buy now it's $7 Canadian an issue (if not more) which is quite a bit for garbage.

The only garbage here is your attitude mate.
I wouldn't call any of the white dwarf magazines released in the last year garbage. Did I like every single one? No, but that doesn't make them garbage.
You obviously have a stick up your creek, so maybe this thread isn't for you? Gotta keep the cholesterol down and all that.

I am excited to see what this 'stuper duper' issue is gonna be. Subscription opportunity ends August 14th - I'm gonna wait and see if they are serious about producing a full quality mag again.

I'm sure they'll at least try hard for the first 6 months

Yeah, I'm going to subscribe, because it's basically the cost of 9 issues, and it will save me the hassle of driving to the LGS and seeing if there is still one on the shelf every month. The good ones always sell out.

Byte wrote:I never said I liked the weekly WD or everything is right with GW. Be careful with generalitions, it demonstrates your IQ.

Resorting to personal attacks in your very first reply to my comment demonstrates your education and style of debate.

ImAGeek wrote:You do realise that the forums aren't a hive mind right? It's not the same people saying weekly WD was better now saying good for going back to the monthly one. Different people have different opinions.

Of course. And opinions can change over time. There's nothing wrong with that. The issue with some people is that GW can do no wrong, so when it goes weekly it's great news, and when it goes back to monthly, it's great news as well, because GW is "going back into the right track"

About generalisations:

Mymearan wrote:Spanish people suck at english and should just git gud or git out. And I say this as a half-Spanish person.

Edit: I'm not saying I don't agree with this statement to some degree, in the same way that most english speakers suck at any other language that is not english.

I just hope it doesn't revert to what it was before. Personally I found it patronising in the extreme,all these WD staff people trying to convince us that "We're having really great fun! Look at our smiling faces,this proves we're having fun!" Whilst not actually mentioning the discontent about the continual price rises.
I know that they are trying to sell their products but It irks me that they are doing the hard sell by trying to tell us we'll have fun if we give them all our money.

Slipstream wrote:
I just hope it doesn't revert to what it was before. Personally I found it patronising in the extreme,all these WD staff people trying to convince us that "We're having really great fun! Look at our smiling faces,this proves we're having fun!" Whilst not actually mentioning the discontent about the continual price rises.
I know that they are trying to sell their products but It irks me that they are doing the hard sell by trying to tell us we'll have fun if we give them all our money.

Isn't that just advertising in general?

What's bad is that we're paying for them to advertise to us by buying a giant advert from them.
Most companies pay to advertise but GW get their saps to buy the advert.
#sigh

Subscribed, I just need a good old battle report. My favourites by far were a Templar vs Orkz fight which ended with the Emperors Champion standing alone meeting his end or something like that and coincidentally while reading the 'Write for GW thread' saw the guy who was one of the players in that report or a writer for that issue.

My second favourite was a three way fight between Orkz, Tyranids and Dark Angels? I think the objective was a base in the middle, man I wish I still had my old white dwarf magazines, would love to know what issues these ones were.

Neronoxx wrote:

Davor wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Gonna get a subscription, first subscription to White Dwarf ever :-)

After all if I pre buy now it's $7 Canadian an issue (if not more) which is quite a bit for garbage.

The only garbage here is your attitude mate.
I wouldn't call any of the white dwarf magazines released in the last year garbage. Did I like every single one? No, but that doesn't make them garbage.
You obviously have a stick up your creek, so maybe this thread isn't for you? Gotta keep the cholesterol down and all that.

I am excited to see what this 'stuper duper' issue is gonna be. Subscription opportunity ends August 14th - I'm gonna wait and see if they are serious about producing a full quality mag again.

Oh wow, someone getting butt hurt when it doesn't apply to them? I find it funny I can't have an opinion but you can? What makes your opinion any more valid than mine? If I think White Dwarf is garbage it's garbage. If you think White Dwarf is good, it's good then. My opinion doesn't make it any more invalid than yours.

But at least you agree with me, that White Dwarf was garbage before last year.

Davor wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Gonna get a subscription, first subscription to White Dwarf ever :-)

I wouldn't. Buying something before even knowing what it's going to be? For me it's a wait and see. If anything, it will be saving me money buy not buying every week and only buy what I need. After all if I pre buy now it's $7 Canadian an issue (if not more) which is quite a bit for garbage. Until I see White Dwarf is not garbage then I will maybe get a subscription if I keep buying monthly, but history has proven it's self time and time again, GW can't do nothing correct lately when it comes to publishing books/magazines. So for me it's a wait and see. No way am I jumping all in on this. j

All I know, it just takes 2 or 3 garbage issues to take away your savings from pre-ordering so maybe it's cheaper to just buy monthly and not buy the issues you want.

"Don't you want you want to take a leap of faith? Or become an old man, filled with regrets, waiting to die alone without a big pile of White Dwarfs to pass on?"

Signed my soul away for a subscription today. It's £12.50 a quarter for 3 magazines. That's less than my train fare to work would cost a day (even with my season ticket it's not far off).

For such a little amount of money I am willing to take a leap of faith. GW have been doing tons of awesome recently and I am willing to say; "thanks!" and "keep up the good work," by signing up for a subscription at a sweet price.

It's probably gonna be awesome, and if it's terrible, who cares? I'll cancel. I buy quite a few White Dwarfs as they are a fun extra to go along with a release. I am hoping this will give me an hour or two of enjoyment a month, that's all I need for it to be worth it really. A battle report, a custom scenario, a painting tutorial, some sweet conversions and a bit of banter (and GW have been adding all the banter back in recently) and I'm good to go.

Lighten up dude. The sky's not falling, and White Dwarf is probably gonna be awesome.

 Bottle wrote:

Davor wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Gonna get a subscription, first subscription to White Dwarf ever :-)

I wouldn't. Buying something before even knowing what it's going to be? For me it's a wait and see. If anything, it will be saving me money buy not buying every week and only buy what I need. After all if I pre buy now it's $7 Canadian an issue (if not more) which is quite a bit for garbage. Until I see White Dwarf is not garbage then I will maybe get a subscription if I keep buying monthly, but history has proven it's self time and time again, GW can't do nothing correct lately when it comes to publishing books/magazines. So for me it's a wait and see. No way am I jumping all in on this. j

All I know, it just takes 2 or 3 garbage issues to take away your savings from pre-ordering so maybe it's cheaper to just buy monthly and not buy the issues you want.

"Don't you want you want to take a leap of faith? Or become an old man, filled with regrets, waiting to die alone without a big pile of White Dwarfs to pass on?"

Signed my soul away for a subscription today. It's £12.50 a quarter for 3 magazines. That's less than my train fare to work would cost a day (even with my season ticket it's not far off).

For such a little amount of money I am willing to take a leap of faith. GW have been doing tons of awesome recently and I am willing to say; "thanks!" and "keep up the good work," by signing up for a subscription at a sweet price.

It's probably gonna be awesome, and if it's terrible, who cares? I'll cancel. I buy quite a few White Dwarfs as they are a fun extra to go along with a release. I am hoping this will give me an hour or two of enjoyment a month, that's all I need for it to be worth it really. A battle report, a custom scenario, a painting tutorial, some sweet conversions and a bit of banter (and GW have been adding all the banter back in recently) and I'm good to go.

Lighten up dude. The sky's not falling, and White Dwarf is probably gonna be awesome.

Bottle, I am surprised. I am not attacking you. No where did I say you were wrong either. I just quoted you because of what you said there. I was just replying on how I wasn't going to buy it. You were the last person to say they were going to get it and I was saying I am not and for why. It wasn't an attack on you at all. Sorry if you thought that.

Didn't think you were attacking me, no worries mate just thought you were being overly pessimistic :-) this hobby is about having fun, and if there's a magazine with interesting articles that adds to the fun of the hobby then I am all for it.

Where are people getting the option for a 3 issue subscription? On the Canadian site all I see is a yearly subscription? Is there different offers for different regions?

I'm a little confused as I am not FB savvy, but since I have an electronic subscription - will mine just renew or will I need to sign up all over?

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
I'm a little confused as I am not FB savvy, but since I have an electronic subscription - will mine just renew or will I need to sign up all over?

There was a mention on the WD Facebook page that subscribers will receive a notification soon as to what is going to happen once September comes around.

For example, my Visions sub (which carried on from my original monthly WD sub) becomes the new monthly WD sub.

This may have already been mentioned, so apologies if it has, but I have just noticed that you can no longer take out a subscription for warhammer visions. Looks like it could be going back to a single mag.

At $80 for a year, I think I will subscribe. Hopefully the cover mount is decent or at least useful. Since it is going back to monthly, maybe cover mounts will be more common.

I think a once monthly magazine is a smart move for GW.

If they were evil/clever releasing formations or various official supplements with each issue they can state the case of making the magazines an auto-subscribe.
Then they can decide to allow back orders or publish a quarterly / semi-annual / annual compilation of all the official releases.
They used to do that with the old magazine of reprinting the small "official" rules they released.

Agreed that publishing is quite different.
I am wondering if they will go bat-crazy and start to have subscription videos like Mini-Wargaming.

Okay, I'm a magazine noob...

What the feth is a cover mount?

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the current WD app will allow you to export the issues you've purchased on there to other readers on your device. Very nice of them eh?

In your library, press and hold on the cover of the issue you want exporting and choose your reader app. Boom. Done!

AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Okay, I'm a magazine noob...

What the feth is a cover mount?

It is an item of some sort (it has been miniatures or additional rule books in the past) that is included in the shrink wrap of the magazine.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Korinov wrote:
From the very same crowd who went from "everything is fine, nothing is broken" to "God bless Rountree for changing the ways of GW" in the span of two years...

Now after two years of "WD going weekly is great because it's cheaper and you can choose what you want, etc" we get "Good for GW to go back to the old ways. Rountree FTW!".

You do realise that the forums aren't a hive mind right? It's not the same people saying weekly WD was better now saying good for going back to the monthly one. Different people have different opinions.

This. I had pretty much stopped buying GW products over the past two years aside from the odd box of something for KoW - until recently when things like Calth and the SC boxes came up. Sure I bought a few copies of AoS for cheap Khorne Berserkers, but only recently have I "gotten back into" GW stuff.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Okay, I'm a magazine noob...

What the feth is a cover mount?

It is an item of some sort (it has been miniatures or additional rule books in the past) that is included in the shrink wrap of the magazine.

Thank you. How likely is it they'll have a cover mount every month, or say every three months, in your experience with WD? If they have one of those frequently enough, I will likely subscribe. That kind of stuff adds alot of value for me.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Okay, I'm a magazine noob...

What the feth is a cover mount?

It is an item of some sort (it has been miniatures or additional rule books in the past) that is included in the shrink wrap of the magazine.

Most likely another Sigmarine as I imagine they have loads of them lying around unsold. ;-)

I kept my subs of White Dwarf when it changed to Visions - I had loads of arguments with GW back then (and it's editor) about the changes and how to get the weekly White Dwarf. In the end, they located a local model shop who would stock it for me. So glad they did. I still have GW to thank for doing this to me. I now get to play Bolt Action, Deadzone, Kings of War, Frostgrave, Saga (and a few others). Great games I would never have tried had they not forced me into a different shop. Who knew the fun/quality of a non-GW game could be so superior to GW games - even if the models aren't always as high quality.

I kept the Visions subscription. When I asked GW yesterday, they said it will revert to White Dwarf again. There would be a letter to subscribers in the post. Finally - the real WD back again!!!
Seems a waste though as I barely touch GW stuff anymore - other than panic buying their old fantasy stuff for KoW.

Cheers GW!
:-)

 Mymearan wrote:
Wait... There is a special "introductory price" going on for the 12-month subscription. Yet that special price only gives you two free issues compared to buying them individually. So what's the "normal" subscription price? Exactly the same as retail?

Probably.


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Slipstream wrote:
I just hope it doesn't revert to what it was before. Personally I found it patronising in the extreme,all these WD staff people trying to convince us that "We're having really great fun! Look at our smiling faces,this proves we're having fun!" Whilst not actually mentioning the discontent about the continual price rises.
I know that they are trying to sell their products but It irks me that they are doing the hard sell by trying to tell us we'll have fun if we give them all our money.

Welcome to all advertising and marketing. You expect them to have articles or even to mention how people are unhappy with their prices, or show people with dour faces? I mean, really?

Your complaints aren't realistic in the slightest for any company.




Look at Pinkman! Pretending to be enjoying himself! He's such a condescending Phony!
Right?


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 Gimgamgoo wrote:

What's bad is that we're paying for them to advertise to us by buying a giant advert from them.
Most companies pay to advertise but GW get their saps to buy the advert.
#sigh

Seriously. Don't like it? Don't buy it. No need to insult people.


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 JamesY wrote:
This may have already been mentioned, so apologies if it has, but I have just noticed that you can no longer take out a subscription for warhammer visions. Looks like it could be going back to a single mag.

That's a shame. My old WD sub converted to Visions, and because if it's small size and the impact that has/had on the photo quality I just let it expire. It wasn't until literally 2 weeks ago when I found out that it had become a normal magazine size, so I bought the old and now a current issue because I enjoy looking at the miniatures in locations besides my computer, and I like the physical magazine. I had actually become interested in Visions after picking up those couple of recent issues - much more than weekly WD which I've also pretty much been ignoring.

@angelofvengeance - I'm sure monthly printing is a good bit cheaper in distribution, as well as printing, and easier to organize. Also, in the monthly magazine, White Dwarf used to use significantly cheaper (thinner) paper than the current weekly version of White Dwarf. Where it's a LOT easier is stocking for hobby stores, because they don't end up with a bunch of copies of weeks 1 and 3 that didn't sell and not enough copies of weeks 2, 4, and 5 out of the month. GW lets them return paper stuff, but it's still a big hassle, and nobody likes running out of inventory.

@Korinov - to be fair, some people (like me) have reflected that they would miss the weekly magazine. I'll miss the weekly news/rumor/release/tease cycle. But that's neither a knock against or props for Kirby or Roundtree -- it's just a change; I'm sure I'll like some things better and some things I won't like as much. Overall, it will cost less, and will mean fewer trips to the hobby shop (== fewer impulse purchases), so there's always that

@Davor - For like, 20+ years, White Dwarf has been primarily an advertising vehicle for GW stuff But, like, it's not you HAVE to buy it. Most of the core game information gets printed somewhere else (digital or print codex or dataslate, etc.); most of the advertisements and photos are on their website or free app nearly concurrently for free.

 JamesY wrote:
This may have already been mentioned, so apologies if it has, but I have just noticed that you can no longer take out a subscription for warhammer visions. Looks like it could be going back to a single mag.

Wasn't there a post somewhere that said quarterly? Though of course, that is rumor :-)

I would miss Visions if they cancelled it.

How frequently did they have cover mounts in past monthly white dwarf issues?