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A lot of Americans think Hilary Clinton is way too powerful, and they may have a point, but there's a lot of similarities to Nixon, and we all know how that ended.

Clinton will probably get her Watergate. I've got Oliver Stone lined up to direct the inevitable movie, with Matt Damon and Jennifer Lawrence as the leads, with Tom Cruise playing Trump, Cruise desperately trying to method act his way to an Oscar win

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
A lot of Americans think Hilary Clinton is way too powerful, and they may have a point, but there's a lot of similarities to Nixon, and we all know how that ended.
Clinton will probably get her Watergate. I've got Oliver Stone lined up to direct the inevitable movie, with Matt Damon and Jennifer Lawrence as the leads, with Tom Cruise playing Trump, Cruise desperately trying to method act his way to an Oscar win

I thought we had an excellent video with Johnny Depp?I am not a supporter of killing people off we do not agree with.

There is however, no small amount of terror in thinking of Trump becoming president.
Is there a risk? yes, would it be a severe thing? yes.

We could surmise from the poor "execution" of this would-be assassin's plans that he is not an overly creative type and was probably running out of ideas on how to stop Trump.

Media outlets say that if the USA called in all it's debts owed by other countries, our deficit would be eradicated, but it would possibly bankrupt some of the countries that owe.

It has also been said that at a time when the USA was extremely prosperous, it gave more to other countries than it should have. Can any other country claim this? I don't know. I'masking.

I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

 Talizvar wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
A lot of Americans think Hilary Clinton is way too powerful, and they may have a point, but there's a lot of similarities to Nixon, and we all know how that ended.
Clinton will probably get her Watergate. I've got Oliver Stone lined up to direct the inevitable movie, with Matt Damon and Jennifer Lawrence as the leads, with Tom Cruise playing Trump, Cruise desperately trying to method act his way to an Oscar win

I thought we had an excellent video with Johnny Depp?

Spoiler:

Video here: https://vimeo.com/154967194

I am not a supporter of killing people off we do not agree with.

There is however, no small amount of terror in thinking of Trump becoming president.
Is there a risk? yes, would it be a severe thing? yes.

We could surmise from the poor "execution" of this would-be assassin's plans that he is not an overly creative type and was probably running out of ideas on how to stop Trump.

If Trump does become President, I hope to God that checks and balances system that Americans talk about, is up to the job. We're going to need it.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:



WHEN Trump does become President, I hope to God that checks and balances system that Americans talk about, is up to the job. We're going to need it.

FIFY

Does that have anything to do with the topic?

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

But Britain just did.
You were talking about the attempted assassination right??

Mdlbuildr wrote:
Media outlets say that if the USA called in all it's debts owed by other countries, our deficit would be eradicated, but it would possibly bankrupt some of the countries that owe.

It has also been said that at a time when the USA was extremely prosperous, it gave more to other countries than it should have. Can any other country claim this? I don't know. I'masking.

I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

Media outlets say that, do they? Which ones? Where? Do we need help that other countries can provide?

I don't know. I'm just asking.

With regards to the pre-edit "LOL", global economic crisis is awesome, isn't it? Certainly can't see anything going horribly wrong in a country that blames us for being in financial shambles.

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

Operation Yellow Ribbon


Hurricane Katrina

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

Operation Yellow Ribbon


Hurricane Katrina

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

I mean funds. Not people.


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 Spinner wrote:


Media outlets say that, do they? Which ones? Where? Do we need help that other countries can provide?

I don't know. I'm just asking.

With regards to the pre-edit "LOL", global economic crisis is awesome, isn't it? Certainly can't see anything going horribly wrong in a country that blames us for being in financial shambles.

I absolutely LOVE the passive aggressive rhetoric in the OT forum, LMAO.

I was actually asking an honest question. Nice to know you have nothing to add to my question other than, well, passive aggressive rhetoric.

There already IS a Global Economic Crisis. Look at Venezuela, Greece, and Puerto Rico just to name a few.

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I mean funds. Not people.

You're the richest country in the world by nearly a factor of two. You don't need money help, you need people help.




Edit: simultaneous posting fethed up the quote function

I was asking honest questions too. I have little to no trust for 'well, people say' statements without any backup, and I'm genuinely curious what you think other countries need to help us with.

Yeah, things aren't necessarily great economically, but I don't see how tanking the economies of other countries would be a good thing for us. Or, you know. Funny.

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I mean funds. Not people.

You're the richest country in the world by nearly a factor of two. You don't need money help, you need people help.
Edit: simultaneous posting fethed up the quote function

What is particularly funny in the crisis is that Canadian banks did the "right thing' and had little housing crisis issues (loaning out to high-risk prospects) so we started off looking pretty good.
Then all the Americans had to do was have their government "back their debts".
Funny, we are a somewhat "Socialist" government but in times of crisis, the USA is worse in that regard.
So the American dollar is better because the government is willing to cover what Capitalism failed to protect against (let us not forget the automotive industry).

No need for back-biting comments, they can be direct.

The Americans have always managed to rewrite the rules to their advantage because they are the economic engine in the world.
When India or China wrestles most of that away it will be a strange new world for sure.

What I would make as a cautionary note in line with the topic at hand: Trump is more of an isolationist which is demonstrated by his penchant for building walls.
The less involvement the USA has in the world, the less relevant they become.
That guy could set the country back by a decade with his "policies".
It is all about "preserving" what they have, keeping the unworthy out "making America great again"... rather curmudgeon talk for a "risk taking, self made, capitalist".

One thing I think we can all agree on: Trump certainly knows how to create strong feelings in people.
I just hope he manages a little control... uh, nevermind... he should keep doing what he is doing.

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I mean funds. Not people.

You're the richest country in the world by nearly a factor of two. You don't need money help, you need people help.




Edit: simultaneous posting fethed up the quote function

We have been for generations and it has harmed our economy so badly we are struggling now. If we are so rich, why can't the elderly afford their medicines? Why do we have homeless veterans? We need to secure our infrastructure and take care of our own now.

For generations, every time there is a world crisis Americans are expected to help while foreign nations tear us apart for our policies. If you care to read these OT forums a little, you will see exactly what I'm talking about. World wide Americans are hated, until of course, there is a crisis and then we lend a helping hand anyway.

You're right. We need to help people. OUR people. First and foremost. If we aren't helping our own, how can we justify helping everyone else?


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 Spinner wrote:
I'm genuinely curious what you think other countries need to help us with.

My apologies as I took your comment out of context. My bad.

I guess it's not so much as we need help, as we don't need to be helping others who can help themselves, but don't because it's better for them to ask for hand outs.

For example, the Middle East has the richest regimes in the World, yet their countries ask us for Military aid AND expect our taxpayers to pay for it. Hell, no. You want help, either pay for a private security detail, or help foot the bill for our help. They don't. Billions in aid are spent on those areas of the World with absolutely zero in return.

The exception is Israel, who trades military funding for military technology and military know how that is invaluable to our National Security.


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 Talizvar wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

But Britain just did.
You were talking about the attempted assassination right??

LMAO

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

Hey, you want to call us names, you come down here and take Lord Stanley's Cup back first.

Mdlbuildr wrote:

The exception is Israe...

The exception always seems to be Israel.

 djones520 wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

Hey, you want to call us names, you come down here and take Lord Stanley's Cup back first.

Actually, this dovetails into Mdlbuilr's question nicely. We keep sending our best players to help you win Lord Stanley's Cup.

Back to back gold when nationality counts would suggest you need it.

How will you win when Drumpf builds the Northern Wall?

 feeder wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

Hey, you want to call us names, you come down here and take Lord Stanley's Cup back first.

Actually, this dovetails into Mdlbuilr's question nicely. We keep sending our best players to help you win Lord Stanley's Cup.

Back to back gold when nationality counts would suggest you need it.

How will you win when Drumpf builds the Northern Wall?

We'll smuggle them across Lake Huron, that's how.

 djones520 wrote:
We'll smuggle them across Lake Huron, that's how.

Southern Ontario in Canada has a long and fine history of smuggling during prohibition.
Trump's walls would appear kinda fun unless he is serious about shooting trespassers off his lawn.
I honestly think he is an old curmudgeon who is afraid people who had to work harder than him may take his lunch money.
Not all of us get to be a heir to a fortune and have a short memory of bankruptsy or the various help he had along the way.

Well, I guess he can add a checkmark to "assassination attempt", if he is not angering people enough to see him harm, he must be doing it wrong.

 Talizvar wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
We'll smuggle them across Lake Huron, that's how.

Southern Ontario in Canada has a long and fine history of smuggling during prohibition.
Trump's walls would appear kinda fun unless he is serious about shooting trespassers off his lawn.
I honestly think he is an old curmudgeon who is afraid people who had to work harder than him may take his lunch money.
Not all of us get to be a heir to a fortune and have a short memory of bankruptsy or the various help he had along the way.

Well, I guess he can add a checkmark to "assassination attempt", if he is not angering people enough to see him harm, he must be doing it wrong.

That's another time Canada helped our neighbours out! They had a bit of an episode and threw out all their booze. The next day they realized their terrible mistake and we helped them out by sharing ours until they could get the keys back to the liquor cabinet.

 Yodhrin wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:

The exception is Israe...

The exception always seems to be Israel.

Yep. Only Democracy in the Middle East.

Mdlbuildr wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:

The exception is Israe...

The exception always seems to be Israel.

Yep. Only Democracy in the Middle East.

For most of it's inhabitants anyway......

 feeder wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

Hey, you want to call us names, you come down here and take Lord Stanley's Cup back first.

Actually, this dovetails into Mdlbuilr's question nicely. We keep sending our best players to help you win Lord Stanley's Cup.

Back to back gold when nationality counts would suggest you need it.

How will you win when Drumpf builds the Northern Wall?

Because the Northern wall will be built on the Arctic, after Canada joins the Union. Don't want to...so what, that never stopped us before!

 Frazzled wrote:

 feeder wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

Hey, you want to call us names, you come down here and take Lord Stanley's Cup back first.

Actually, this dovetails into Mdlbuilr's question nicely. We keep sending our best players to help you win Lord Stanley's Cup.

Back to back gold when nationality counts would suggest you need it.

How will you win when Drumpf builds the Northern Wall?

Because the Northern wall will be built on the Arctic, after Canada joins the Union. Don't want to...so what, that never stopped us before!

Actually, yeah, we did.

But imminent President-elect Drumpf is an isolationist. That would run counter to implementing what future historians will refer to as "America's Great Northern Folly".

I wonder did trump decide not to visit Ireland due to our long history of political assassination? Maybe he was browsing YouTube and saw some of those videos where the I.R.A said Thatcher checked under her car with a mirror every morning...

 Talizvar wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
We'll smuggle them across Lake Huron, that's how.

Southern Ontario in Canada has a long and fine history of smuggling during prohibition.

I have a relative from long ago, who was shot while smuggling someone else's wife across the water.

 notprop wrote:

For most of it's inhabitants anyway......

If you're going to go there, please explain your position. Thanks.

 feeder wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 feeder wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

Hey, you want to call us names, you come down here and take Lord Stanley's Cup back first.

Actually, this dovetails into Mdlbuilr's question nicely. We keep sending our best players to help you win Lord Stanley's Cup.

Back to back gold when nationality counts would suggest you need it.

How will you win when Drumpf builds the Northern Wall?

Because the Northern wall will be built on the Arctic, after Canada joins the Union. Don't want to...so what, that never stopped us before!

Actually, yeah, we did.

But imminent President-elect Drumpf is an isolationist. That would run counter to implementing what future historians will refer to as "America's Great Northern Folly".

Ah the War of 1812-also known as payback for Belgium in my family
That was pre-Texas. We're much more aggressive now.

 Frazzled wrote:

 feeder wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 feeder wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
I don't see other countries running to help the USA when we are in need. Do you?

We love our loud, friendly, somewhat intellectually disabled neighbour!

Hey, you want to call us names, you come down here and take Lord Stanley's Cup back first.

Actually, this dovetails into Mdlbuilr's question nicely. We keep sending our best players to help you win Lord Stanley's Cup.

Back to back gold when nationality counts would suggest you need it.

How will you win when Drumpf builds the Northern Wall?

Because the Northern wall will be built on the Arctic, after Canada joins the Union. Don't want to...so what, that never stopped us before!

Actually, yeah, we did.

But imminent President-elect Drumpf is an isolationist. That would run counter to implementing what future historians will refer to as "America's Great Northern Folly".

Ah the War of 1812-also known as payback for Belgium in my family
That was pre-Texas. We're much more aggressive now.

Belgians. The people that are too stuck up to even be French.


Your Weenie Legions will flounder in the snow of our True North Winter. We will once again burn the White House and hang the orange scalp of your leader from the tallest maple tree!

I respect that.

Oh and Vive Le Emperor!