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Breotan wrote: Did I read that right where he was in the US for a year and a half? Doesn't that mean he overstayed his visa and is an illegal alien? Shouldn't he have been deported a year ago?
Assassination is such a stupid idea. He could have gone to California, signed up for benefits and voted in the general election like every other illegal.
Student Visas are good for as long as you can prove active enrollment. He was a student right?
he was living in his car, so I'd say no.
and so far California has not allowed illegals the ability to vote yet or legally. but give it time, they already gave them drivers licenses. and now health care.
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Necros wrote: Nice try, but assassination attempts like this are just a waste of time. Even if he was successful, the Illuminati will just put together another clone and it will be like it never even happened. They say you can tell which generation a clonetrump is by how orange its skin gets.
Breotan wrote: Did I read that right where he was in the US for a year and a half? Doesn't that mean he overstayed his visa and is an illegal alien? Shouldn't he have been deported a year ago?
Assassination is such a stupid idea. He could have gone to California, signed up for benefits and voted in the general election like every other illegal.
Student Visas are good for as long as you can prove active enrollment. He was a student right?
he was living in his car, so I'd say no.
and so far California has not allowed illegals the ability to vote yet or legally. but give it time, they already gave them drivers licenses. and now health care.
Living out of one's car is actually a pretty common thing college students do, especially in California.
Heck, at the college I'm signing up for, board and food costs TWICE AS MUCH as the tuition does. Luckily I'm 24 and can live off campus, because the cost to go would be astronomical otherwise. I can buy a 30 foot RV and live on a lot for 4 years for cheaper than a single year on campus if that gives you an idea of how bad some colleges are. Keep in mind the lot has all utilities paid, free boat launching, security cameras, and even a gate. I dont blame people one bit for considering homelessness, especially students going for masters. It would save them tens of thousands of dollars, especially in California where cost of living is astronomical.
So yeah, I can totally buy that the guy may have been living out of his car and going to school. Only thing is that his age may have prevented him from having the option, but that varies massively based on the school.
Combine this with the stress of being autistic and suicidal, it really starts to explain why he just hopped in his car one day and thought that going after Trump would be a good idea. Given how he's apparently talking to the cops and telling them everything, the guy probably didnt have a lot going for him and felt going out as a "hero" was better than jumping off a bridge, especially considering he expected to die in the attempt.
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As too the Zika virus it is an infection spreading into the US, go read about it.
Obama is weak against Zika Virus immigration. Is that what you're saying? You are being asked to clarify why you added the Zika Virus to the list of reasons "he's been labelled a bigot and racist".
Oh contraire, Obama has deported twice as many Zika immigrants as the previous administration!
Re-topic. Seriously, with all the hostility, all our Presidential candidates need to be doubly protected.
Unseriously-this is the best British assassin? Come on, I thought you guys had Liam Neeson. Now there's a man with a very special set of skills.
Coming summer 2017-Liam Neeson- Assassin Accountant! He'll kill your taxes, and the bad guys!
Pffft, our best assassin (according to conspiracy theorists at least) is drunk drivers and the french paparazzi.
funny thing is a Brit broke into Buckingham Palace not once but twice while the Royal family was there, and this is the best they can send at us? what the US is not worthy of the Best the UK has to offer?
Racist, bigoted, gak stirring Trump is a credible candidate for most powerful man in the world, in a country where transpeople in a bathroom are considered more of a threat than violent armed radicals, criminals, terrorists and trigger happy police. As far as I'm concerned the US isn't fit to lick our boots right now.
Really want to start this, England?
I'm from Northern Ireland, actually. feth England, couldn't give a toss, but I love the UK
Racist, bigoted, gak stirring Trump is a credible candidate for most powerful man in the world, in a country where transpeople in a bathroom are considered more of a threat than violent armed radicals, criminals, terrorists and trigger happy police. As far as I'm concerned the US isn't fit to lick our boots right now.
You really want to go down that road?? Because of course, there are no bigots and racists in your Government right?
The USA is still and will always be the greatest country in the World. Gladly, since you don't like it, you've found your own place to live. Keep reading all that rubbish though.
Absolutely not, Westminster is full of them, but its tactical. You vote for those so other people get into power. You may not necessarily like the racist fether himself, but you're willing to bite the bullet so his colleague succeeds or someone worse stays out. Still not great but better than the US, where you actively vote for a man, a man, not a party with diverse members but a singular man who's campaign rests on hatred and distrust. The very fact a citizen of another country is so disgusted and concerned by him, that he would risk life and liberty in an attempted assassination(!) doesn't indicate to you there is something wrong? This isn't about which is better, this is about people, yourself seemingly included, content to live in a country of oppression, violence, police brutality, homophobia, racism, bigotry, a country actively hated by numerous countries and individuals, where anyone, from a madman to a psychopath, can get a gun, and murder dozens of people, and name it freedom. Where people will take a known bigot, racist, sexist, hateful man like Trump and celebrate him like the second coming of Christ. My country may have those people in power but the good hearted people among us are disgusted by them, the selfish see them as a necessary evil. I can almost hear the eagles in your post but I'd be ashamed to be an American in this day in age.
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2016/06/21 19:44:44
Subject: Re:Brit makes Trump assassination attempt.
Asterios wrote: I'm wondering what his immigration stance was? just saying I cannot imagine for the life of me why he would do something like that, yeah can see any home grown idiot going after a president and/or candidate, but someone from overseas with a country we are friendly with? something about this seems odd to say the least.
Well this guy apparently lived in the USA, but that aside you've not noticed the sheer, gaping, uncomprehending horror that most folk outside the US feel at the prospect of a Trump presidency? From our perspective, the man is a lunatic, and you guys seem intend on putting him in charge of the world's most advanced army and huge stockpile of nukes. Frankly I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to have a pop at him(which, before anyone bunches up, is not to condone such attempts, killing people is always wrong except in immediate, unavoidable self-defence, even Trump).
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2016/06/21 19:50:24
Subject: Re:Brit makes Trump assassination attempt.
Asterios wrote: I'm wondering what his immigration stance was? just saying I cannot imagine for the life of me why he would do something like that, yeah can see any home grown idiot going after a president and/or candidate, but someone from overseas with a country we are friendly with? something about this seems odd to say the least.
Well this guy apparently lived in the USA, but that aside you've not noticed the sheer, gaping, uncomprehending horror that most folk outside the US feel at the prospect of a Trump presidency? From our perspective, the man is a lunatic, and you guys seem intend on putting him in charge of the world's most advanced army and huge stockpile of nukes. Frankly I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to have a pop at him(which, before anyone bunches up, is not to condone such attempts, killing people is always wrong except in immediate, unavoidable self-defence, even Trump).
yes and how you see Trump I see Hillary, I consider her a danger to this country (especially our secrets) and would not wish her as our President, would rather have a blo-hard who talks out of the side of his neck then her. also you seem to give the presidency more power then it actually has.
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Mdlbuildr wrote: Hillary will be indicted for Treason before November, and no one will vote for Bernie...
I suspect you are going to be very, very disappointed in a few months.
LOL, perhaps. Perhaps not.
I've posted many times on this forum, Hillary will not be charged with any crime. Worst case scenario, she gets hit with a token fine for "a mistake" or something along that line. The press' Give o' Feth meter will immediately drop to zero.
The Clintons are like the mafia. They sit at the head of a powerful, organized machine and have many, many friends.
I've posted many times on this forum, Hillary will not be charged with any crime. Worst case scenario, she gets hit with a token fine for "a mistake" or something along that line. The press' Give o' Feth meter will immediately drop to zero.
I'm not so sure of that if Trump becomes President. A long shot, I know, LOL.
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2016/06/21 20:07:56
Subject: Re:Brit makes Trump assassination attempt.
Asterios wrote: I'm wondering what his immigration stance was? just saying I cannot imagine for the life of me why he would do something like that, yeah can see any home grown idiot going after a president and/or candidate, but someone from overseas with a country we are friendly with? something about this seems odd to say the least.
Well this guy apparently lived in the USA, but that aside you've not noticed the sheer, gaping, uncomprehending horror that most folk outside the US feel at the prospect of a Trump presidency? From our perspective, the man is a lunatic, and you guys seem intend on putting him in charge of the world's most advanced army and huge stockpile of nukes. Frankly I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to have a pop at him(which, before anyone bunches up, is not to condone such attempts, killing people is always wrong except in immediate, unavoidable self-defence, even Trump).
yes and how you see Trump I see Hillary, I consider her a danger to this country (especially our secrets) and would not wish her as our President, would rather have a blo-hard who talks out of the side of his neck then her. also you seem to give the presidency more power then it actually has.
Hillary is a standard-issue corporatist sleazebag with regulation closet skeletons - she's doubtless a despicable person and would be an awful President, but she's not mental and she doesn't appear to be actively trying to start a race war. If Dems had any sense they'd run headlong into the arms of Sanders and thank jeebus that Trump's candidacy gives a genuine radical(by American standards, Sanders would be a barely-left-of centrist over here) an actual shot at election. Instead they went with an insincere policy-Facedancer who's perhaps the only politician available with favourability ratings in the same ballpark as Trump's. They're not so much shooting themselves in the foot as gnawing it off and eating it while setting themselves on fire, and so now we have the bizarre scenario of Euro lefties hoping that a hawkish, pro-corporate, pro-banker pseudo-Democrat gets elected because the alternative is Dodo the Clown and his Race Baiting Carnival.
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
I went to school with the kid, he was a few years younger than me but friends with my brother, and I worked with both his parents whilst I was still at school.
I have no idea what could have happened here as he is the least political person you could imagine. I can't imagine that he was in college or employment due to his health problems, he only went to the US to be with his US girlfriend he met whilst she was over here. His Aspergers and mental health problems meant he could be quiet easily influenced so I wouldn't be surprised if someone has put him up to this or made a comment in jest that he has taken seriously.
I really hope they don't throw the book at him as he really needs some real, professional help rather than 10 years in jail which would destroy him.
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Aeneades wrote: I went to school with the kid, he was a few years younger than me but friends with my brother, and I worked with both his parents whilst I was still at school.
I have no idea what could have happened here as he is the least political person you could imagine. I can't imagine that he was in college or employment due to his health problems, he only went to the US to be with his US girlfriend he met whilst she was over here. His Aspergers and other mental health problems meant he could be quiet easily influenced so I wouldn't be surprised if someone has put him up to this or made a comment in jest that he has taken seriously.
I really hope they don't throw the book at him as he really needs some real, professional help rather than 10 years in jail which would destroy him.
The charge they'd indicted him with sounds like it's "not the book".
mdlbuilder, I don't think the (deranged) Brit was enacting a critique of your country - merely your candidate, who seems to have attracted a certain amount of controversy.
mdlbuilder, I don't think the (deranged) Brit was enacting a critique of your country - merely your candidate, who seems to have attracted a certain amount of controversy.
Well, heck, the US is already isolating itself in this scenario. Build a wall, seal the borders, keep the terrorists out, call the debts in, watch everyone's economy tank. Nobody wins.
Isolationism is laughable in this global age. The fact that I can type this and you guys can all read it at the same time speaks volumes.
But even in Earth-80085, where Trump becomes president, he wouldn't close down international trade to 'keep money domestic'; how would he have all his campaign shirts and hats and such made in China if that happened?
The USA is still and will always be the greatest country in the World.
Ooh, I do like a good, reasoned debate! Tell us what other countries you've lived in, working and hanging out with other people? I really loved my time living and working in Chicago, San Francisco and many other US locations, but I'm always ready to learn from folk with more life experience than me.
Obviously you will have lived in the UK, to make such a statement.
(and I personally don't care, countries can't be ranked like best albums in High Fidelity).
Lets not go there shall we. We all know US is #1 Hurr.:
1. Our assassins finish the job!
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3. You do have one advantage though. You should focus on that:
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Lets not go there shall we. We all know US is #1 Hurr.:
2. TexMex vs. haggis. Texmex is food. Haggis is a weaponized WMD.
I believe this is a point in our favour. - Particularly being Scottish. After all, we eat it. If we take that supposition, then logically, that means we're dead 'ard us.
I also submit that not only is Scotland's national motto an explicit threat. "Nemo me impune lacessit." - "Noone provokes me without impunity." Or, in Scots, "wha daurs meddle wie me?" (Who dares meddle with us?) but, even our airports motto is an implicit threat.
"Pure deid brilliant." - Pure dead brilliant.
Oh yeah, and our national animal is a unicorn. A frikking unicorn.
And that's me not even speaking for England, Wales or Northern Ireland.
The Clintons are like the mafia. They sit at the head of a powerful, organized machine and have many, many friends.
That they are, but in the end, they may end up just like all those movie Mafiosos. Somehow, it always catches up with them.
God I hope so! It would be poetic justice indeed.
It's really sad that we have to choose between people like Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Trump is by far the lesser of the two evils, IMO. At least he knows better than to blame the guns for all the violence in America.
Personally, my fear is that there will be massive election fraud and Hillary will win by cheating. Which, given her track record, would not really surprise me if it happened. And then all of a sudden any evidence of her wrongdoings will disappear, as will anyone who brought up those wrongdoings...
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2016/06/22 14:02:07
Subject: Re:Brit makes Trump assassination attempt.
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