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I've always loved the AoS-style of rules and simplicity, but absolutely hated the lack of points. I've been drifting, not really playing any system other than x-wing, but this has finally tipped me into AoS.

Anyone else here feel the same way?

I'll pick up some of the bloodbound units later on. Definitely will be picking up lots of sylvaneth stuff when its out.

Yup, well that and how awesome the sculpts are.

I've been in it since day one, but there were always several fan comp points that could be used which were more than fine.

I am willing to try AoS 2.0;

as I tried the first edition..

Hope this goes better...

Funnily enough I've been looking at AoS the last week or so, but it had nothing to do with the addition of points. As much as I am pro points I still find the game too random, too many needless dice rolls and don't like the fluff.

What I do like is the emails Raging Heroes are sending me now that they have most of the 3D renders for their last kickstarter, and they could make a BEAUTIFUL dark elf army, but the price is way too high for a KoW force. So a game that's just an excuse to play with 30-40 stunning models painted to the best of my ability wouldn't be bad.

Except even if I had the time to do so I could only get a game at my local GW (maybe) and obviously non GW models is a no no. So I can't see this project ever getting off the ground.

 Grimgold wrote:
Yup, well that and how awesome the sculpts are.

Mostly this, for me

The points aren't bad. Now, I can have another game where I obsess over army lists and spend 400 hours making lists for every 4 hours I spend playing. RAWR.

The addition of points actually is turing me off of AoS.

 Swabby wrote:
The addition of points actually is turing me off of AoS.

Out of curiosity is that because of the oft stated argument that once points appear it will become the standard and you won't be able to find an opponent who doesn't want to use them?

I've been playing since launch but it is certainly making me more excited to play PUG at a GW.

It's truly great to see people willing to give it a go but if you're just joining us a reminder to play scenarios, especially those that look appealing. If yup can't find one in a book or online ask here. We want your gaming experience to be a good one. So don't seek to break the game and for the love of Gork, or possibly Mork, DO NOT play old warhammer Battleline. Just don't, not a great experience. Scenario, then go... And good luck and enjoy first game.

 Swabby wrote:
The addition of points actually is turing me off of AoS.

don't be. There are still people like myself who will ask someone for a game and if they reply with "ok how many points?' I will respond with "nevermind"

The points will draw some new players but its up to us to show them that its not necessary

The simplicity of the rules with the addition of game balance have got me taking the dust off of my high elves but im still not sold.
Will have to see, by playing, how the flow of the game goes and if my army is beaten by default because of point imbalances.

 namiel wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
The addition of points actually is turing me off of AoS.

don't be. There are still people like myself who will ask someone for a game and if they reply with "ok how many points?' I will respond with "nevermind"

The points will draw some new players but its up to us to show them that its not necessary

By refusing to play people who want to play point games? Wouldn't it be better to say "not really interested in a points game, how about we play this narrative scenario or without points instead"? Seems far more welcoming, especially to a new player.

I still don't care for the aesthetic, tone, oddly limiting looseness/specificity of the rules, or what they've done so far with the setting, but it's nice to see a change in attitude and direction from GW. If the rest improves, I might give it a try someday.

I've always liked AOS, so points or not I won't be too bothered. I just hope to god these points are fairly balanced (lets be honest, they cant be perfect) or I'll just hang my head in disappointment.

kburn wrote:
I've always loved the AoS-style of rules and simplicity, but absolutely hated the lack of points. I've been drifting, not really playing any system other than x-wing, but this has finally tipped me into AoS.

Anyone else here feel the same way?

I'll pick up some of the bloodbound units later on. Definitely will be picking up lots of sylvaneth stuff when its out.

I have been here since Day One but let about a month or two after. Only reason I came back is because of GW new change of direction since January 2016. So no points didn't bring me back. I don't play since nobody plays in my area. Who knows maybe points will get someone to start playing.

 Spinner wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
The addition of points actually is turing me off of AoS.

don't be. There are still people like myself who will ask someone for a game and if they reply with "ok how many points?' I will respond with "nevermind"

The points will draw some new players but its up to us to show them that its not necessary

By refusing to play people who want to play point games? Wouldn't it be better to say "not really interested in a points game, how about we play this narrative scenario or without points instead"? Seems far more welcoming, especially to a new player.

I still don't care for the aesthetic, tone, oddly limiting looseness/specificity of the rules, or what they've done so far with the setting, but it's nice to see a change in attitude and direction from GW. If the rest improves, I might give it a try someday.

Yes you are correct I will offer to play without before retracting my offer for a game. But if that's the first thing that people think about with AOS im not sold on gaming with that person anyway.....

For my wife, myself, and several in my gaming group, Age of Sigmar was always "thisssss" close to being something we could get really excited about.

Fan Comps highlighted just home much we enjoyed the core of the game suited our sort of gaming preferences, but without a unified system we couldn't quite get the numbers needed for tournaments, and that last push to really make it a major locally played system.

Even the mere announcement of the handbook swelled our numbers, and now a world of beautiful models, etc... are tempting. The points system did its job, at least for us, and we've, as a group, probably spent $3000 on stuff for our future AoS lists that never would have happened without this soft reboot.

They're releasing an 'open play' 'narrative play' and 'matched play' (points) so everyone can rejoice

not only that they worked with tourney organizers for the matched play point system

 chaosmarauder wrote:
They're releasing an 'open play' 'narrative play' and 'matched play' (points) so everyone can rejoice

not only that they worked with tourney organizers for the matched play point system

this is why gw has a future because things like this will keep players interested.

 chaosmarauder wrote:
They're releasing an 'open play' 'narrative play' and 'matched play' (points) so everyone can rejoice

not only that they worked with tourney organizers for the matched play point system

AAANNNDDD I will say it again.We can play Unbound in 40K as well. How many people will let you play an Unbound army? HMMMmmmmm?

So that said, time will tell if the only way to play is Matched play and people who only play matched play will shun the people who want to play the other 2 ways just like how the 40K crowd have shunned the Unbound way.

Actually I think the animosity towards unbound has loosened a lot.

I've played several times with and/or against an unbound army and its usually just to get around a minor requirement in a detachment rather than make wildly outlandish armies.

We usually start a game by describing whats in our army and what detachments/formations we are using - at this point I might say I'm unbound because I'm just taking 1 tactical squad or something like that or I wanted to throw in an extra HQ character that a detachment wouldn't allow, my opponent sometimes does the same and we don't even think about it really.

 chaosmarauder wrote:
Actually I think the animosity towards unbound has loosened a lot.

I've played several times with and/or against an unbound army and its usually just to get around a minor requirement in a detachment rather than make wildly outlandish armies.

We usually start a game by describing whats in our army and what detachments/formations we are using - at this point I might say I'm unbound because I'm just taking 1 tactical squad or something like that or I wanted to throw in an extra HQ character that a detachment wouldn't allow, my opponent sometimes does the same and we don't even think about it really.

Problem is it still happens. What I am trying to get at, is that for a lot of people the only way to play AoS now is with points, just like how Unbound happened. Can it change? Yes. Point I was trying to make is that for some it's not going to be so easy as people are saying it will be so smugly that is all.

Davor wrote:

 chaosmarauder wrote:
They're releasing an 'open play' 'narrative play' and 'matched play' (points) so everyone can rejoice

not only that they worked with tourney organizers for the matched play point system

AAANNNDDD I will say it again.We can play Unbound in 40K as well. How many people will let you play an Unbound army? HMMMmmmmm?

So that said, time will tell if the only way to play is Matched play and people who only play matched play will shun the people who want to play the other 2 ways just like how the 40K crowd have shunned the Unbound way.

Everyone? I played an unbound army, getting back into it but so far no problems.

Farseer
Wraith knight
Wraith guards
Mass harley's

No one complains you play unbound if it is a fun themed list. Out of like 50 games no one said anything to me ever, other then that is the weirdest thing I ever seen.

OgreChubbs wrote:

Davor wrote:

 chaosmarauder wrote:
They're releasing an 'open play' 'narrative play' and 'matched play' (points) so everyone can rejoice

not only that they worked with tourney organizers for the matched play point system

AAANNNDDD I will say it again.We can play Unbound in 40K as well. How many people will let you play an Unbound army? HMMMmmmmm?

So that said, time will tell if the only way to play is Matched play and people who only play matched play will shun the people who want to play the other 2 ways just like how the 40K crowd have shunned the Unbound way.

Everyone? I played an unbound army, getting back into it but so far no problems.

Farseer
Wraith knight
Wraith guards
Mass harley's

No one complains you play unbound if it is a fun themed list. Out of like 50 games no one said anything to me ever, other then that is the weirdest thing I ever seen.

Like really you are trying to prove me wrong about one word of "everyone"? You knew what I meant. On a small technicality? You knew what my point was. I didn't think I really needed to spell it out.

Davor wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:

Davor wrote:

 chaosmarauder wrote:
They're releasing an 'open play' 'narrative play' and 'matched play' (points) so everyone can rejoice

not only that they worked with tourney organizers for the matched play point system

AAANNNDDD I will say it again.We can play Unbound in 40K as well. How many people will let you play an Unbound army? HMMMmmmmm?

So that said, time will tell if the only way to play is Matched play and people who only play matched play will shun the people who want to play the other 2 ways just like how the 40K crowd have shunned the Unbound way.

Everyone? I played an unbound army, getting back into it but so far no problems.

Farseer
Wraith knight
Wraith guards
Mass harley's

No one complains you play unbound if it is a fun themed list. Out of like 50 games no one said anything to me ever, other then that is the weirdest thing I ever seen.

Like really you are trying to prove me wrong about one word of "everyone"? You knew what I meant. On a small technicality? You knew what my point was. I didn't think I really needed to spell it out.

I am not sure what type of anwser you want then.... You said who lets you play an unbound list. I anwsered everyone, which is everyone I ever played against let me so I anwsered your question.

You basically want me to say I agree unbound is unplayable like AoS will be? Well the truth is if your nice easy going any type of game is playable. Me and my mate use to play pit fight for the ogres good game.

Not till prices come down.

And points don't make up for what's still a lacklustre game.

hobojebus wrote:
Not till prices come down.

And points don't make up for what's still a lacklustre game.

How many games of aos have you played?

With points and my old opponent planning to come back to club meets my Tomb Kings might be able to step out of the light.

It's a shame I won't be able to add any more models to them easily though, unless GW decides to bring them back from the dead.

 namiel wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
Not till prices come down.

And points don't make up for what's still a lacklustre game.

How many games of aos have you played?

Couple of dozen then the local scene totally gave up on it and gw.

Ill have another look. I think GW should have brought back Mordhiem and Warbands for the small scale games and progressed the story's after End Times instead of doing what they did. 9th Age rules are what GW should have moved to they are cleaner more balanced and have had certain things streamlined.

My opinion is if they did it like 9th age and used Mordhiem and warbands everyone gets a part of what they wanted two small scale type games and each can lead up to large scale games. The way GW handled it was poor and the rules for AoS are pretty poor as well especially when I can rocket a plague furnace across the table and charge turn one that's pretty silly.

Though I will give this a second look when this is released time will tell.