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Hello

So with games workshop new brushes out where is the equal to the fine detail brush?

You mean what?

The Artificer brush is the fine detail equivalent, I believe.

But it's disgustingly priced for something you don't need.

I like the new GW brush line but that one is silly.

 notprop wrote:
But it's disgustingly priced for something you don't need.

I like the new GW brush line but that one is silly.

There's definitely need for very small detail. But then again plenty options from other alternatives. Cheaper + better quality.

edit: Bejezus. 20e for single brush? What platinum handle brushes GW designed? Those better be some new ones that are actually good...Bejezus.

IMO, to become a better painter, you want to use a bigger brush.

If you are wanting a good brush, get a Winsor and Newton 1, its the same size as the standard brush, then pick up a citadel fine detail for the very small stuff.

tneva82 wrote:

 notprop wrote:
But it's disgustingly priced for something you don't need.

I like the new GW brush line but that one is silly.

There's definitely need for very small detail. But then again plenty options from other alternatives. Cheaper + better quality.

edit: Bejezus. 20e for single brush? What platinum handle brushes GW designed? Those better be some new ones that are actually good...Bejezus.

The Artificer brushes are Kolinsky sable.

 Ghaz wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 notprop wrote:
But it's disgustingly priced for something you don't need.

I like the new GW brush line but that one is silly.

There's definitely need for very small detail. But then again plenty options from other alternatives. Cheaper + better quality.

edit: Bejezus. 20e for single brush? What platinum handle brushes GW designed? Those better be some new ones that are actually good...Bejezus.

The Artificer brushes are Kolinsky sable.

At a huge mark up.

GW Artificer Medium (roughly analogous to size 1) - £16.

W&N 7 Series Size 1 - £8-10 depending on where you shop

Rosemary & co. 33 Series Size 1 - £4.25. I do most of my painting with these, they are only ever so slightly below W & N quality.

Raphael series 8404 size 1 - £7- 10 depending on where you shop.

GW Artificer brushes are good brushes, but the equivalent (or better) products out there are usually much cheaper. I speak from a UK perspective, however the brush topic comes up a lot and I've seen Yanks, Aussies and all manner of Europeans say the same thing.

 Ghaz wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 notprop wrote:
But it's disgustingly priced for something you don't need.

I like the new GW brush line but that one is silly.

There's definitely need for very small detail. But then again plenty options from other alternatives. Cheaper + better quality.

edit: Bejezus. 20e for single brush? What platinum handle brushes GW designed? Those better be some new ones that are actually good...Bejezus.

The Artificer brushes are Kolinsky sable.

still not worth 20,

W&N same size, like 17 bucks.

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 notprop wrote:
But it's disgustingly priced for something you don't need.

I like the new GW brush line but that one is silly.

There's definitely need for very small detail. But then again plenty options from other alternatives. Cheaper + better quality.

edit: Bejezus. 20e for single brush? What platinum handle brushes GW designed? Those better be some new ones that are actually good...Bejezus.

The Artificer brushes are Kolinsky sable.

At a huge mark up.

GW Artificer Medium (roughly analogous to size 1) - £16.

W&N 7 Series Size 1 - £8-10 depending on where you shop

Rosemary & co. 33 Series Size 1 - £4.25. I do most of my painting with these, they are only ever so slightly below W & N quality.

Raphael series 8404 size 1 - £7- 10 depending on where you shop.

GW Artificer brushes are good brushes, but the equivalent (or better) products out there are usually much cheaper. I speak from a UK perspective, however the brush topic comes up a lot and I've seen Yanks, Aussies and all manner of Europeans say the same thing.

A local retailer has the Winsor & Newton Series 7 No. 1 at $19.79 (plus shipping). The M Artificer is $26 at the FLGS less than 2 miles from my home. I'd probably pick up the Artificer brush on a visit to the FLGS before I order a brush sight unseen or make a 30 minute trip downtown and hassle with gas, parking, etc. Sometimes convenience makes the higher price product a better buy. Its up to each to decide if that's the case for them.

I love my Artificier XS brush.

I may end up buying it then I am not sure what I would use it for yet but wtf thanks guys. Have a nice day.

Windsor and Newton offers sizes as small as 000 for detail painting, but I get the most use out of my 1 and 2. I get them from amazon because my FLGS is over half an hour away and only carries citadel brushes, and I don't think they've ever stocked the Artificer line. Anything made of kolinsky sable should be a step up.

W&N S7 all the way..
For mettallics I use Army Painters most wanted set...
Ain't no way in hell I'm abusing my S7's with mica pigments..

Yeah, GW brushes are crap, except, maybe, for their 'artificer' brands. But then again, W&N Longhair brushers feel so much nicer.

Not gonna wade into the "this brush is better than that brush" thing, because I think too much is personal preference and what you can get your paws on easily. But pricewise...

No discount W&N S7 in Canada is CAD $20, $21, $24 (for size 00, 0, 1)
No discount Artificer in Canada is CAD $24, $28, $31 (for size XS, S, M)


However, it's (much) easier to get discounts on Citadel paintbrushes in Canada, because most indie stores have some discount, while there are hardly any W&N retailers, and they have sales very rarely. And, the GW brush is highly available retail, while the S7 brush is only available at high-end fine arts stores (for example, NOT Michael's).

Since I am very patient and buy my S7 brushes when they DO go on sale (and then buy enough to last me quite a while), my S7's end up a little cheaper than my Artificers. But really, the price difference doesn't come out to that big of a number.

Performance-wise, they have a significantly different feel. Sometimes, I feel that the Citadel brush is superior for a task, other times the W&N.