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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 07:32:43
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Alarielles sprues are also "C 2016" so Eldrad could pop up any moment.
Eldrad is a really nice surprise.
The whole eldar plot to twart slaanesh sounds like a campaign in its own.
Would be cool if Eldrad allied with tzeench here for a neccesary edge against Slaanesh in a future campaign.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 07:38:21
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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gungo wrote:Possible but past campaigns had third factions in the lore and they got shafted with formstions, rules, and models.
The fact the only new chaos unit and eldar unit are both hq characters screams tau vs Raven guard campaign style.
Very unlikely they would put special character of Eldrad's caliber to one of those campaign boxes. Those are more of generic HQ's. Not special characters. Especially famous ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 07:40:45
Subject: Re:Kharn, chaos space marines and deathwatch in september?
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Charging Dragon Prince
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Whoever uploaded, know that there's someone on the 'net that likes you very much at the moment. So cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:05:43
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Looking forward to this. Eldrad and Kharn both aged well, but they both date back to 2nd edition, which is a hell of a long time to date back to.
Kinda wish the other non-Typhus/Lucius/Huron Chaos characters and the phoenix lords would get redone as well but hey, take what we can get.
Eh, Typhus is a great model and the first Nurgle mini I wanted (besides a GuO) but I wouldn't say no to a plastic Typhus that is a bit bigger. Same with Abby.
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:15:30
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Awhile back there was some leaked Dark Eldar rules from Frontline Gaming. This lends some credence to those as well since it seems likely the Eldar and Dark Eldar will be in a campaign.
A lot of people thought the leaked rules were a new codex, but It was obvious it sounded like formation bonuses for the DE and some of them were pretty potent.
I certainly hope they turn out to be true since it would be just the boost the poor faction needs. Still take this with a grain of salt. Also there is no rumor monger saying for sure the campaign is coming or will involve Slaanesh being defeated. It's just a few Eldar lore fanatics speculation and noticing the patterns.
For all we know they could just drop Eldrad like they did the dual TE Commander/Ethereal on Drone kit around the time of the ork release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:21:21
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Eldar plan to kill Slaanesh becoming a campaign even follows the GW "erasing Slaanesh" conspiracy. Ynnead would be more child-friendly than Slaanesh, without having to worry about having less than four chaos gods.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:26:05
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Honestly this seems pretty likely to me, but you know what they say. Hope for the best prepare for the worst.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:26:44
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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It wouldn't be far fetched, do a Iyanden re release (yes, I know Eldrad isn't Iyanden, but it's a chance for them to rerelease the supplement now that they ruled it is legal) in the middle of a Deathwatch/Chaos campaign (lol? Well, I guess it's not that far fetched, part of the Deathwatchs purpose is to eliminate Xenos that worship the ruinous powers...). New up to date supplement for Eldar, while Death Watch gets their codex and Chaos gets whatever they get out of the campaign book. More Khorne love, probably.
As for Ahriman, it could be a generic 30k Librarian model, since they don't really have any other than Rubio that has wargear that fits the setting, but he will have decals and be painted to represent Ahriman. Maybe they will even do a separate clampack of Ahriman/Bjorn, so they can do them both justice?
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:30:22
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Also I think people need to realize this is likely not going to be all in one release. It looks like they will have CotW2 then whatever comes next. Likely Eldar/Chaos centric to keep the plot going. As well as CSM's own campaign books unless Chaos will be involved in the majority of the upcoming plot books in which case they can spread it out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:47:42
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I doubt there will be a dedicated Xenos/Chaos book without some form of Imperial selling point. Imperials (Marines) are their money makers, after all.
Maybe Eldar can carry a campaign book? I mean if the release is Khorne Marines, I doubt it will stir up much excitement, since who here would really be excited for more Khorne?
Part two of the COTW is going to be Tzeentch, unless they do a sudden Twist with Khorne trying to cockblock Magnus because of the Eternal Game.
Of course, on the other hand, it could be an Eldar campaign fighting the Deathwatch, and Kharn is just a plastic release like the Tau Commander/Ethereal.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:54:12
Subject: Kharn, chaos space marines and deathwatch in september?
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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angelofvengeance wrote:The Wrathmongers are actually alright if you model them a wee bit differently, but Skarr is just a terrible model lol. Skarr is at best, a good start to making a beefy Beastlord for your beastmen.
Or a pretty good Herald of Khorne. Automatically Appended Next Post: Kirasu wrote:
I forgot how terrible the khorne models for AOS were..
A lot of them are quite nice. Just not that one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:54:52
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Kharn and Eldrad? Nice.
Now, can we please get a plastic Dante? That model is also beyond ancient.
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GW: "We do no demographic research, we have no focus groups, we do not ask the market what it wants" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 08:56:03
Subject: Kharn, chaos space marines and deathwatch in september?
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Dr_Keenbean wrote:
They're great. Put a bolt pistol in one hand of the Blood Warriors - instant, not-crappy Bezerkers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 10:42:44
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Those look really cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 10:54:19
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Otiose in a Niche
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The problem with the move to plastic for all characters is they can do very, very few of them. And the start up cost is huge compared to a resin or metal one.
I really don't understand why they don't fit in several heads and arms to each plastic character to differentiate them. But even if they do that it means there will be a lot less variation among our Warlocks/Chaos Lords/Marine Commanders etc.
Sure they're much easier to customize but most are in novel new poses so stock parts don't always fit well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 11:03:54
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Lethal Lhamean
Birmingham
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Gamgee wrote:Awhile back there was some leaked Dark Eldar rules from Frontline Gaming. This lends some credence to those as well since it seems likely the Eldar and Dark Eldar will be in a campaign.
A lot of people thought the leaked rules were a new codex, but It was obvious it sounded like formation bonuses for the DE and some of them were pretty potent.
I certainly hope they turn out to be true since it would be just the boost the poor faction needs. Still take this with a grain of salt. Also there is no rumor monger saying for sure the campaign is coming or will involve Slaanesh being defeated. It's just a few Eldar lore fanatics speculation and noticing the patterns.
For all we know they could just drop Eldrad like they did the dual TE Commander/Ethereal on Drone kit around the time of the ork release.
Most of that list reeked horribly of wish listing, I wouldn't put much stock in it. Automatically Appended Next Post: Verviedi wrote:The Eldar plan to kill Slaanesh becoming a campaign even follows the GW "erasing Slaanesh" conspiracy. Ynnead would be more child-friendly than Slaanesh, without having to worry about having less than four chaos gods.
Ynnead would not be a Chaos god, he'd be one of the Eldar Gods like Khain and Cegorach.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 11:37:45
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Verviedi wrote:The Eldar plan to kill Slaanesh becoming a campaign even follows the GW "erasing Slaanesh" conspiracy. Ynnead would be more child-friendly than Slaanesh, without having to worry about having less than four chaos gods.
You do know that Slaanesh is still around in AoS, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 11:45:41
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Kanluwen wrote: Verviedi wrote:The Eldar plan to kill Slaanesh becoming a campaign even follows the GW "erasing Slaanesh" conspiracy. Ynnead would be more child-friendly than Slaanesh, without having to worry about having less than four chaos gods.
You do know that Slaanesh is still around in AoS, right?
Yeah in background. No sign of new models. They could easily put Slaanesh into similar "mentioned in fluff only, no new models until new direction has been come up" state in 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 11:58:03
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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tneva82 wrote: Kanluwen wrote: Verviedi wrote:The Eldar plan to kill Slaanesh becoming a campaign even follows the GW "erasing Slaanesh" conspiracy. Ynnead would be more child-friendly than Slaanesh, without having to worry about having less than four chaos gods.
You do know that Slaanesh is still around in AoS, right?
Yeah in background. No sign of new models. They could easily put Slaanesh into similar "mentioned in fluff only, no new models until new direction has been come up" state in 40k.
No sign of new models, but definitely still around--even if Slaanesh is not directly exercising its power.
The forces of Slaanesh are primarily in the Realm of Shadow; somewhere we haven't explored yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 12:29:24
Subject: Kharn, chaos space marines and deathwatch in september?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Azazelx wrote: angelofvengeance wrote:The Wrathmongers are actually alright if you model them a wee bit differently, but Skarr is just a terrible model lol. Skarr is at best, a good start to making a beefy Beastlord for your beastmen.
Or a pretty good Herald of Khorne.
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Kirasu wrote:
I forgot how terrible the khorne models for AOS were..
A lot of them are quite nice. Just not that one.
The worst of the khorne models (flailing chains and stuff) was for End Times rather than AoS (it dont make much difference these days though).
Anyway Im quite happy with my Skarr-Herald conversion; Skarrs stature is a quite impressive hunk of plastic:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 13:07:57
Subject: Re:Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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RogueSangre
The Cockatrice Malediction
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Aren't the Night Lords supposed to fight Ulthwe in the End Times? It would be cool if the Night Lords attack Ulthwe but then the Grey Knights show up and together with Eldrad they totally destroy the Night Lords! The few survivors end up painting their armor red and joining the Crimson Slaughter.
This way they could wittle down some of the superfluous Chaos Legions. Alpha Legion could die in the Fenris campaign. That just leaves Iron Warriors and Word Bearers to deal with. Maybe a joint Ultramarines/Imperial Fist campaign where they finally destroy their arch-enemies? I'm sure they could think of something.
At the end of the day they all get rolled into Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion. Tidies up the bloated Chaos faction nicely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 13:24:55
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Gamgee wrote:Also I think people need to realize this is likely not going to be all in one release. It looks like they will have CotW2 then whatever comes next. Likely Eldar/Chaos centric to keep the plot going. As well as CSM's own campaign books unless Chaos will be involved in the majority of the upcoming plot books in which case they can spread it out.
*grain of salt* According to a friend who used to work for GW, his friend on the inside says a lot of talk in the company these days centers on how there are almost no CSM armies in tournaments these days and how they used to be one of the most popular tournament armies. I wouldn't be surprised to see a major refocus on Chaos in the coming months based on what he's telling me.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 15:20:39
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 15:34:01
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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EnTyme wrote: Gamgee wrote:Also I think people need to realize this is likely not going to be all in one release. It looks like they will have CotW2 then whatever comes next. Likely Eldar/Chaos centric to keep the plot going. As well as CSM's own campaign books unless Chaos will be involved in the majority of the upcoming plot books in which case they can spread it out.
*grain of salt* According to a friend who used to work for GW, his friend on the inside says a lot of talk in the company these days centers on how there are almost no CSM armies in tournaments these days and how they used to be one of the most popular tournament armies. I wouldn't be surprised to see a major refocus on Chaos in the coming months based on what he's telling me.
Games Workshop Design Team couldn't understand tournament stats if they tried, and they likely don't care regardless. They probably couldn't define "tournament" without a dictionary
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 16:49:18
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Fleshound of Khorne
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Looking forward to this. Eldrad and Kharn both aged well, but they both date back to 2nd edition, which is a hell of a long time to date back to.
Kinda wish the other non-Typhus/Lucius/Huron Chaos characters and the phoenix lords would get redone as well but hey, take what we can get.
Except for Huron and lucius all the chaos chaps are 2nd end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 21:37:30
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Why Eldrad he's dead? Honestly GW why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 21:38:54
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Fixture of Dakka
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He's not dead. Why - He's finecrap miniature and its about time they made a hq model that wasn't a fudging space marine!
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 21:51:47
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Lieutenant General
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pm713 wrote:
He's not dead. Why - He's finecrap miniature and its about time they made a hq model that wasn't a fudging space marine!
It depends which source you read as to whether he is alive or dead.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 21:54:39
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ghaz wrote:pm713 wrote:
He's not dead. Why - He's finecrap miniature and its about time they made a hq model that wasn't a fudging space marine!
It depends which source you read as to whether he is alive or dead.
Well let's see we have the two new codicies or an old campaign. Gee I wonder which is non canon.
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 22:15:43
Subject: Plastic Eldrad Ulthran (confirmed) plus possible Kharn & Deathwatch kits
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Lieutenant General
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pm713 wrote: Ghaz wrote:pm713 wrote:
He's not dead. Why - He's finecrap miniature and its about time they made a hq model that wasn't a fudging space marine!
It depends which source you read as to whether he is alive or dead.
Well let's see we have the two new codicies or an old campaign. Gee I wonder which is non canon.
So you can show me this new fluff for the 13th Black Crusade where Eldrad survives?
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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