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Sounds way to good to be true.

That's the fakest fake that's ever been faked

It's a shame it's almost definitely not true because some of those models sound really cool.

Sounds about right to me. Looking forward to seeing it all. Bye bye Slaanesh. Hello Eldar god of death.

 Mantle wrote:
That's a lot of new kits and the descriptions sound a little too much even for GW plastics. Although if more kits are coming with eldrad I would expect a new guardian kit being ulthwei and all, and eldar need a decent upgrade for storm guardians, plastic warlocks would be amazing though!

Edit: since when did yriel become a harlequin?

End of Valedor I think.

I know awhile back there was talk of GW being less cryptic about upcoming releases and for the most part many of the things rumored have come out.

Maybe this is it? Also it is common sense folks. They are advancing the story and everyone needs to have their time to be advanced.

It also says some of those last books are not set in stone yet just vague ideas, but honestly it all sounds fairly accurate. Also those armies have all not had their big decurions and cool models released.

I can't wait to see what else the DE get. Also I like Harlequins lore but wish they were better allies for my dark kin and I might paint some.

 Gamgee wrote:
Sounds about right to me. Looking forward to seeing it all. Bye bye Slaanesh. Hello Eldar god of death.

Huh? What about these rumours makes you think slaanesh is being removed? Why does the entrance of Ynnead absolutely HAVE to mean slaanesh gets removed.

I mean, I personally think (assuming rumours are true) that GW wouldn't release a special character keeper of secrets like n'kari to have slaanesh just go away? No one would buy it. Also, if it's a dual kit like it says, that's an even larger absurdity.

I'm just curious if you know something that I seem to be missing.

Sure, new 'zerkers AND three kinds of Thousand Sons. And Santa Claus swings by twice a year to paint my backlog minis.

As much as I'd welcome new cult Marines that alone would be reaon enough to doubt the rumour, the source and level of detail provide the rest.

Details are way too specific to be true and even the starting boxes don't follow the $85 model. We'll let Atia or Sad Panda weigh in but I'm calling this bunk on arrival.

AncientSkarbrand wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Sounds about right to me. Looking forward to seeing it all. Bye bye Slaanesh. Hello Eldar god of death.

Huh? What about these rumours makes you think slaanesh is being removed? Why does the entrance of Ynnead absolutely HAVE to mean slaanesh gets removed.
I mean, I personally think (assuming rumours are true) that GW wouldn't release a special character keeper of secrets like n'kari to have slaanesh just go away? No one would buy it. Also, if it's a dual kit like it says, that's an even larger absurdity.

I'm just curious if you know something that I seem to be missing.

Gamgee has bought into the crap peddled by Naftka and others that Slaanesh is being removed to make the setting more "kid friendly".

Arguing or discussing it with him is pointless.


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 buddha wrote:
Details are way too specific to be true and even the starting boxes don't follow the $85 model. We'll let Atia or Sad Panda weigh in but I'm calling this bunk on arrival.

Yup. The more specific the rumor via Naftka or BoLS, the more likely it is to be bunk.

Are there exceptions? Sometimes. But it's a good rule of thumb to have that more details equates to more nonsense.

Seriously, someone predict 7 major player will get attention, and there is not one loyalist marine in there.
I know GW is going through some changes, and lots of the stuff in the rumor sounds kind of plausible, but really, no marines?

They just released an Age of Sigmar model with bare breasts. I don't think GW is going to remove Slaanesh to make their games 'kid friendly'.

Idk who Naftka is but those rumors sound too much like wishful thinking. Don't get me wrong I would love new Thousand Sons and the theme seems sound (black library eldar vs magnus) but the details are way to specific.

And isn't Yriel LITERALLY DYING from his spear? why would he become a harlequin all of a sudden? I always figured him as the brooding pirate burdened with a curse, not the type of guy to go "well I guess I'll become a self-deprecating clown in my last days! LOL"

 Fayric wrote:
Seriously, someone predict 7 major player will get attention, and there is not one loyalist marine in there.
I know GW is going through some changes, and lots of the stuff in the rumor sounds kind of plausible, but really, no marines?

That's what screamed BS to me. Not a single Space Marine chapter mentioned.

 kronk wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Seriously, someone predict 7 major player will get attention, and there is not one loyalist marine in there.
I know GW is going through some changes, and lots of the stuff in the rumor sounds kind of plausible, but really, no marines?

That's what screamed BS to me. Not a single Space Marine chapter mentioned.

Grey Knights or even the new rumored Death Watch would be a perfect candidate for a 'Chaos v Eldar: Warp Nonsense' battle

AncientSkarbrand wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Sounds about right to me. Looking forward to seeing it all. Bye bye Slaanesh. Hello Eldar god of death.

Huh? What about these rumours makes you think slaanesh is being removed? Why does the entrance of Ynnead absolutely HAVE to mean slaanesh gets removed.

I mean, I personally think (assuming rumours are true) that GW wouldn't release a special character keeper of secrets like n'kari to have slaanesh just go away? No one would buy it. Also, if it's a dual kit like it says, that's an even larger absurdity.

I'm just curious if you know something that I seem to be missing.

He's just going by the rumors that popped up around the time AoS came out and Archaon didn't have a Slaanesh head. Combine that with AoS lore mentioning Slaanesh going missing since the end times, and everyone just jumped to "Slaanesh got squatted". That's not how GW removes factions. They don't "go missing". They get freaking temporally displaced. Not only do they no longer exist, they never existed. Slaanesh is coming back. Insiders say that GW is trying to find a new niche for him/her. It's not so much about making Slaanesh more "family friendly" so much as it is making him less of a one-note song. There is more to hedonism than just sexual debauchery.

 buddha wrote:
Details are way too specific to be true and even the starting boxes don't follow the $85 model. We'll let Atia or Sad Panda weigh in but I'm calling this bunk on arrival.

those don't look like 85$ starter boxes if real, more in line with the 120+ army boxes.

anything involving the black library will include deathwatch and inquisition. keep in mind.

Actually there were internal discussions about this during kirby's time. Which is when those rumors and discussions and even lore build up happened.

There is enough evidence now that its been pointed out Slaanesh might stay around. It looks like the new guy in charge changed the plan a lot. Thankfully.

I actually like Slaanesh. Also I didn't know about that sylvaneth model. In that case we're all good. I can't see them getting rid of her. It looks like we might see Yeenead though. Or their plan partially backfiring.

 Gamgee wrote:
Actually there were internal discussions about this during kirby's time.

Were there really though? Who says? Anonymous sources on Naftka or Faeit?

Which is when those rumors and discussions and even lore build up happened.

What "lore build up"? Oh, you mean Slaanesh being captured by Malerion and Tyrion after he had glutted on Elf souls during the End Times and being kept within the Realm of Shadows?
You mean Slaanesh not sending a champion after Archaon and Dorghar devouring it like it did a Bloodthirster, Lord of Change, and Great Unclean One?
Age of Sigmar actually discussed the fact that Slaanesh could not send a champion since Slaanesh cannot exercise its power.

There is enough evidence now that its been pointed out Slaanesh might stay around. It looks like the new guy in charge changed the plan a lot. Thankfully.

There was NEVER any real evidence that Slaanesh was going away. There was speculation, entirely unfounded, based upon stuff in Age of Sigmar. Stuff like Dorghar not having a Keeper of Secrets head or the lack of Slaanesh models or forces present in the campaign books--it's stuff which ignores that these things got addressed. Look at Archaon's shield, there's a Slaaneshi sigil on there. Look in the books, Slaanesh's forces are scouring the Realm of Shadow trying to find Slaanesh or busy fighting amongst themselves to see who will become "the next Slaanesh".


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Triszin wrote:

 buddha wrote:
Details are way too specific to be true and even the starting boxes don't follow the $85 model. We'll let Atia or Sad Panda weigh in but I'm calling this bunk on arrival.

those don't look like 85$ starter boxes if real, more in line with the 120+ army boxes.

anything involving the black library will include deathwatch and inquisition. keep in mind.

It's worth mentioning that if we're going to see Deathwatch coming out? There's a perfect tie-in opportunity in August, with the next "Beast Arises" book titled "Watchers in Death" being the origins of the Deathwatch.

Mostly the prophecy which kept coming up and the plans to bring back the eldar god. I don't read the lore myself so was simply told by an Eldar lore fanatic.

I know that is useless as a source, but ultimately it's all I got. It couldn't be all wrong or I would never have seen any of this coming. Plastic Eldrad is our biggest piece of evidence that a lot of this real.

He got some of the details wrong but the gist is right.

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It is possible someone seen Sad Panda and Atias rumors and then the plastic eldrad and made all of that up. I find it unlikely though.

 Gamgee wrote:
Mostly the prophecy which kept coming up and the plans to bring back the eldar god. I don't read the lore myself so was simply told by an Eldar lore fanatic.

Then they need to hand in their Eldar lore fanatic card, because Yneead wasn't "being brought back".
Yneead is a nascent Eldar god that the Eldar believe dwells within the Infinity Circuits of each Craftworld. It has not yet manifested as it has not attained the power necessary to defeat Slaanesh.

I know that is useless as a source, but ultimately it's all I got. It couldn't be all wrong or I would never have seen any of this coming. Plastic Eldrad is our biggest piece of evidence that a lot of this real.

Is it really though?

Plastic Eldrad means nothing more than plastic Eldrad until we get anything more solid to link it to. For all we know, this is a plastic Eldrad intended to be part of a Christmas bundle with a new plastic Warlock Council.

He got some of the details wrong but the gist is right.

From what you've said they got all of the important details wrong, and essentially acted as a carnival fortune teller and you jumped on board because it supports the narrative you seem to espouse often; that GW is trying to push the Eldar more than other Xenos and trying to make the game more "kid friendly".

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It is possible someone seen Sad Panda and Atias rumors and then the plastic eldrad and made all of that up. I find it unlikely though.

...really? You find that unlikely?

Because that's kind of the shtick lately for Naftka, BoLS, and Faeit.

From a previous CSM Rumours thread...

Lady Atia wrote:
- Slaanesh isn't dead, she's vanished (some even say she hides in Azyrheim ....)
- Slaanesh's armies are there and kicking. Daemons and mortals.
- Slaanesh's Keeper of Secrets are there and kicking, doing more than ever before, some even naming themself Slaanesh ...
- The whole Slaanesh vs Aelfs storyline is already foreshadowed in the lore. Same with Slaanesh's follower try to find her. Same with Malerion hiding in the Shadowlands. Or the Big Ironjaw emmisary from Gorkamorka doing the Great Waaaaagh!.
- AoS is a storyline, and will continue as that.
- GW's current plastic Slaanesh line is already "kid friendly".

Slaanesh v Aelfs. Nice to see GW being original with their lore and making new things.

Triszin wrote:
From Natfka

This is a huge bit encompasses what would be the next two years of releases for Warhammer 40,000. A new 8th edition and 5 campaigns to push the envelope right up to the 1 minute before midnight. If this is really the layout for the next edition of 40k, call me more than a little excited.


Please remember that salt is required for this. I don't yet know how solid this is, but it is very well detailed, appears like a logical outline, and looks like a ton of fun.


via anonymous sources on Faeit 212...
*Random load of monkey gak*

Ah, good to see Natfka is only three or four days late on the pick-up, and then trying to one-up what's already known with a bunch of random shots across their gakboard!

There may end up being 5% or so of actual accuracy there, but like everything Chaos related, I'll wait for Panda and/or Lady Atia to clean up the mess.

Seriously, at this point according to Faeit/Natfka, we sould be on about oh, the 1,293,666th or so codex for CSM's!

BoLS seems to be going in a different direction with these rumors - some sort of Craftworld update.

Tongues have been wagging and this is what BoLS has been told by insiders:

Eldrad is coming late this year 2016
He will be accompanied by at least 2 other existing Eldar characters who will be receiving all new fancy plastic minis.
One of the new minis will be …. wait for it… the Eldar Avatar.
The others are unknown. It is not known if these are a standalone release, or part of an accompanying book of some type.

To put this whole slaanesh thing to rest. Slaanesh is a plot point in AOS hell in 40k we are getting a new keeper secret's model that will act as a standard keeper/N'kari if rumors are to be believed. Slaanesh is not going anywhere it's been said multiple times in the plot the followers are looking for slaanesh in the realm of shadows. Slaanesh even has a few short stories about his/her followers and are mentioned in the campaign book. If slaanesh was squatted he/she would not be mentioned at all like the tomb kings or brets. It also seems that they are becoming "buddies" with clan enshin. Like pestilins is with nurgle.

Sad Panda wrote:I try to be explicit when I know for certain that something does not exist (e.g. last year's Tzeentch/Nurgle Daemonkin, the "all GDs are ready"-rumors, etc..).

Genestealer Cult as an army "exists". I simply don't know anything about it (models, planned release dates, current status, etc..).

*Excited Squeak*

ImAGeek wrote:It's a shame it's almost definitely not true because some of those models sound really cool.

Yeah that shadowseer sounded amazing. Someone has a very active imagination there I think.

This sounds like the same crap he spewed when 7th was rolling around and we were going to get multiple box sets (one for each faction fighting their nemesis force) instead of the normal sort of starter set - and lo and behold we got squat but a revised Dark Vengeance. Faeit and BOLS are nothing more than tripe merchants.

These rumours sounds like a amalgamation of some other rumours tbh. Kind of the bols M.O.

 EnTyme wrote:

He's just going by the rumors that popped up around the time AoS came out and Archaon didn't have a Slaanesh head. Combine that with AoS lore mentioning Slaanesh going missing since the end times, and everyone just jumped to "Slaanesh got squatted". That's not how GW removes factions. They don't "go missing". They get freaking temporally displaced. Not only do they no longer exist, they never existed. Slaanesh is coming back. Insiders say that GW is trying to find a new niche for him/her. It's not so much about making Slaanesh more "family friendly" so much as it is making him less of a one-note song. There is more to hedonism than just sexual debauchery.

But that doesn't mean they can't put slaanesh to same state in 40k.

Shame that all sounds so fake - I'm holding out hope that we'll actually get a Sylandri Veilwalker mini, though.