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So that box if bought individually comes to over $350 £240. A $150 price tag would mean buying the harlequins and getting the rule book, the Deathwatch and Eldrad for free.

with Sky/Voidweavers involved I can't see it being boardgame-y as they're going to be really hard to fit on a board in any sort of functional way

it's got to be for tabletop

the Harlequins portion clocks in at £150.50 (using eldrads finecast price which will no doubt go up for the plastic)

the deathwatch set is harder to cost but probably hits around £100

and the rules softcover? £25

so £275 of product for £100 or so?

the numbers don't seem to stack up

Thanks for the image, Chikout! Sounds like the Deathstorm/Stormclaw boxed sets of 2014. I guess this one will be between 115-145 EUR

Yeah even with this being the Age of Roundtree that seems like too good of a deal to be true...

Shops should have got the order list already, so a leak of prices cant be that far away.

I think if there is ano upgrade sprue, rather than get a box of Veterans I will just get a Tactical Squad or two and some.upgrade sprues. When Captain Artemis hits eBay I will get him as well. I have several Sternguard and Vanguard kits I can poach bits from.

I was not looking forward to a combined box set. I had hoped they would have learned their lesson with the Shadow Force Solaq box that they can do the same thing and make it more marketable.

Would it be more reasonable to suspect it's 2 boxes instead?, one for Harlequins and one for Deathwatch. Given the impressive list of contents from the previous page having it as a single army £100 box would seem to make more sense, either that or the list was full of it.

 Imateria wrote:
Would it be more reasonable to suspect it's 2 boxes instead?, one for Harlequins and one for Deathwatch. Given the impressive list of contents from the previous page having it as a single army £100 box would seem to make more sense, either that or the list was full of it.

I would probably get on board if it was two separate boxes. I don't need Harlequins.

It would make more sense, yeah, though the language used in the image on pg 19 would indicate that it's one box.

Then again we are missing the first few sentences of context...

"...with an exclusive formation for both forces" does suggest both in one box.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
"...with an exclusive formation for both forces" does suggest both in one box.

Yay... At any rate, I will just wait for Artemis to hut eBay and use more effective means than Sternguard to build my Deathwatch force. An Upgrade Sprue or two and a Tactical Squad will get the job done for a lot cheaper and look just as nice.

I am especially disinclined to get the boxed set given the fact that every boxed set character has been released separately now.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"5 Deathwatch Veterans"

*sigh*

So a 5-man box it is, probably for more money than even the current Devastator box. Wonderful.

Well, there is mention of the Upgrade Sprue.

I have this horrible idea that 'Deathwatch Veterans' will basically be Sternguard boxed together with the Upgrade Sprue....

And the Upgrade Sprue will then be sold seperately (hence why it's seperate in that list - so it can be applied to the Vanguard).

Sad Panda flat-out stated that there's a Deathwatch Veterans kit, which is not Sternguard in any meaningful way, shape, or form.

Actually, from the looks of it, Artemis might not even be exclusive to the boxed set, the copy of the Rules with Artemis on the cover is the exclusive part.

Lady Atia has all of this stuff on her website, so it is pretty well confirmed now.

Can't wait for this one!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Actually, from the looks of it, Artemis might not even be exclusive to the boxed set, the copy of the Rules with Artemis on the cover is the exclusive part.

Lady Atia has all of this stuff on her website, so it is pretty well confirmed now.

They've been really cagey about saying "Exclusive" when it comes to the characters in boxed sets. They tend towards making it clear that the models are "only available currently" in a boxed set, rather than "exclusive" to it. Seems silly but it lets their staff be able to point out to people that it's likely to be available later.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Actually, from the looks of it, Artemis might not even be exclusive to the boxed set, the copy of the Rules with Artemis on the cover is the exclusive part.

Lady Atia has all of this stuff on her website, so it is pretty well confirmed now.

They've been really cagey about saying "Exclusive" when it comes to the characters in boxed sets. They tend towards making it clear that the models are "only available currently" in a boxed set, rather than "exclusive" to it. Seems silly but it lets their staff be able to point out to people that it's likely to be available later.

True, but what I am saying is that Eldrad and Artemis might just be available separate right from the get go. And I am fine with that.

That list on contents sounds more like Deathstorm. 2 sets forces of models that don't sell well with new HQ models and a minirulebook with a new cover.

Eldrad and Artemis will probably be £16 each if bought individually.
Seriously even if the boxed set is £120 like the Knights, the value is insane. If you are interested in either faction and are at all familiar with eBay, there is no reason not to get it. You could sell the Eldar for half retail price and buy a start collecting box and a rhino with the proceeds.

Chikout wrote:
Eldrad and Artemis will probably be £16 each if bought individually.
Seriously even if the boxed set is £120 like the Knights, the value is insane. If you are interested in either faction and are at all familiar with eBay, there is no reason not to get it. You could sell the Eldar for half retail price and buy a start collecting box and a rhino with the proceeds.

Very true. I think I might just do that.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this is Deathwatch: Deathwatch. Just like we had Space Hulk: Space Hulk and Talisman: Talisman.

Be happy! This is a good thing and a great deal! 3rd Edition is coming back and Eldrad is happy to bring back the Ulthwe Craftworld.

And we get a 28mm Artemis. Who doesn't miss that bad boy from =I=...

I won't be surprised if the Deathwatch are 50$ for 5 just like Sternguard.

 Imateria wrote:
Would it be more reasonable to suspect it's 2 boxes instead?, one for Harlequins and one for Deathwatch. Given the impressive list of contents from the previous page having it as a single army £100 box would seem to make more sense, either that or the list was full of it.

You mean like the Raven Guard vs Tau sets, right? That makes sense actually. I wonder what Eldrad is doing with the Harlies, though...

 Kirasu wrote:
I won't be surprised if the Deathwatch are 50$ for 5 just like Sternguard.

I would be a bit surprised about that. I'm thinking more likely $40(same price as the Vanguard Veterans); Sternguard are supposedly their "best worst selling kit"--if a box with discounts includes them, it tends to do well but otherwise they tend to sit around on the shelves.

Tentative pricing, excluding the Deathwatch Veteran kit, is $129.75 for the Deathwatch portion alone. I lowballed Artemis at the $30 price bracket rather than $33. I did the same with the Deathwatch upgrade kit, there's similar kits available right now at $13.50 and I used their price point as the basis since it seems to be tied to the Vanguard Veterans. I would not be surprised to maybe see the upgrade kit as a box rather than a blister like the current ones and be $20 instead.

Tentative pricing for the Eldar portion is $217--I used the $30 price bracket for Eldrad as well.

No matter how the pricing for the Deathwatch portion turns out, unless the Deathwatch Veterans are an $87.25 kit, the Eldar have a biiig cost break for this set if they're wanting to add Harlequin.

That box deal sounds a bit too good to be true, but then, I would say that about quite a few of the boxes they've done in the last year or two so who knows? The stormcloud boxes have been the only damp squib for me in very recent memory.

Video wasn't one of their best - you normally see a bit more art for those teasers, that all looked like fairly thrown-together stuff. Doesn't give me a ton of hope for the codex, as that's where the art is usually cribbed from for the trailers, right?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Eldrad on his own would be at least 18GBP

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Eldrad on his own would be at least 18GBP

a 2 sprue charecter is probably same price as the dominus so 23

migooo wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Eldrad on his own would be at least 18GBP

a 2 sprue charecter is probably same price as the dominus so 23

Eldrad is 1 sprue. From that photo earlier, you can see where bits have been snipped off the frame.

Are you sure of that? I can't see where his enormosword and megahat would both fit on that sprue?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

migooo wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Eldrad on his own would be at least 18GBP

a 2 sprue charecter is probably same price as the dominus so 23

Eldrad is 1 sprue. From that photo earlier, you can see where bits have been snipped off the frame.

Negative. 2 sprues. If parts had been snipped off the frame, then you would have seen corresponding numbered spots that were empty.

1 is the torso, 2 is the front of the legs, 3 is the part in the upper right corner, 4 is the back of the legs, 5 is the staff, 6 is the back of the torso/robes.
There's no head, there's no left arm/hand, there's no attachment point(seemingly) for the rest of the right arm holding the staff(it's just a hand attached to the staff).

In any regards, I don't think he'd be anywhere near the $36 USD price tag of the Techpriest Dominus. That is a huge infantry model, set on a 50mm base.
A normal Farseer is $20 USD and is one frame. A two frame model in the form of Eldrad? I could see $30 tops.


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 Bull0 wrote:

Video wasn't one of their best - you normally see a bit more art for those teasers, that all looked like fairly thrown-together stuff. Doesn't give me a ton of hope for the codex, as that's where the art is usually cribbed from for the trailers, right?

You normally see a bit more art for those teasers...but you also don't normally see teasers that are fully voiced with an attempt at animation like this one.

Don't forget the likelihood of an elaborate terrain/base setpiece for him to stand on...