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Hmm, maybe it's about the Harlequins finding Eldrad in that Blackstone Fortress after the Thirteenth Black Crusade?

 Malika2 wrote:
Hmm, maybe it's about the Harlequins finding Eldrad in that Blackstone Fortress after the Thirteenth Black Crusade?

That hasn't happened yet per the current timeline.

Yeah, the nascent Eldar Goddess "R'het C'hon" awoke briefly during the 13th Black Crusade and made it as though that entire campaign never happened.

Anyway...

Also Deathwatch will not only get the Boxed set, there will also be Bikes, Landraiders, Razorbacks, a box with 10 marines and Character Models for example the Watchmaster.

Here we are, mere days away from Codex: Deathwatch, something I never thought would ever happen... and still my cynicism says "This is nonsense!" to all of this.

You almost had me looking for an Eldar god "R'het C'hon"...

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
With rumors of 8th edition and VAST SWEEPING CHANGES I might forgo the codex and just get the toys.

I would bet good money all our $50 codexes will NOT be usable in 2017.

Yeah, I am leaning the same direction. I don't want to spend a boatload of money on a book I probably won't use all that much. Art and model pictures used to be nice, but now they load the books up with cartoon-y nonsense that it isn't even worth it anymore.

Plus 2/3 of it will be reprinted from the RPG.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
With rumors of 8th edition and VAST SWEEPING CHANGES I might forgo the codex and just get the toys.

I would bet good money all our $50 codexes will NOT be usable in 2017.

Yeah, I am leaning the same direction. I don't want to spend a boatload of money on a book I probably won't use all that much. Art and model pictures used to be nice, but now they load the books up with cartoon-y nonsense that it isn't even worth it anymore.

Plus 2/3 of it will be reprinted from the RPG.

I have the RPG's collectors edition.


I was a Deathwatch player way before it became mainstream and cool. Not only did I play it, but I ran it.

Played more Deathwatch than any other 40K RPG. Hell, my name and the names of my group are in most of the books as play testers.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Played more Deathwatch than any other 40K RPG. Hell, my name and the names of my group are in most of the books as play testers.

Awesome it's the 40k rpg we played the most too (followed by Only War). I do hope they make a Deathwatch 2.0 out that rebalances the game. It got way out of hand in power levels for even me and my high skill in gming to handle. To the point where fights lasted horus in real life over multiple days to have any hope of challenging the large group (6).

Edit
Since this thread is waiting for more news and I have space I may as well say what the campaign was. The groups mission was to uncover a strange prophecy in the Jericho Reach. It turns out three factions were vying to see if it meant them. The two most likely contenders were the Necrons and Chaos and Eldar as third. They stopped the Eldar and sort of had a cease fire as they discovered more (only until they could kill the filthy Xenos farsight later). They also defeated the deamon prince and the greater deamon before being slain themselves. Which means the only ones left it could refer to is the Necrons awakening. In essence they sort of chose who was the greatest threat Voldemort style. Sadly the game had to end before they got to confront the Necrons. After that last battle two got transported somewhere by a weird spell, two died, and the only surviving one was the dreadnought who went into his stasis on the Fort. The Eldar were trying to see if there was a way to use this sector to hasten their grand plan to awaken Yennead and found it lacking. The demon prince was one of the Deathwatch Captains who slew the Master in charge of the Watchfortress. Their goal and the Bloodthirster were trying to create a new chaos god out of the Hadex Anomaly. So this just left the awakening of the great pharaoh over all the Necrons left to stop from being awakened.

Edit
Also I had another large plot going on with Tau, Chaos Space Marines, Ad Mech, and Space Marine/Imperial Forces breaking off from their respective groups to form a shadowy organization dedicated to surpassing all of them and conquering the region. They possessed advanced technology enhanced by warp powers and deamonic bindings as well as the raw zeal of the marines. A tau with space marine enhanced power armor, full invisibility field, enhanced jetpacks powered by souls, rail rifle loaded with warp rounds that can penetrate all known armor, genetically enhanced like a space marine, and equipped with all manner of advanced and supremely heretical gear. He was a constant thorn in their side all campaign and it was never resolved as well. Suffice to say he took out more than a few players and they were eager to see him dead swearing in game oaths and everything. Space Marines with plasma bolters and markerlights. If I recall their goal was to overcome fate.

As for the Nids. They actually got stomped quite hard by my group who seemed to have an affinity for destroying their hordes. This campaign took two and a half years to get as far as it did playing every week for four hours or so.

Regarding bits like shoulder pads, I guess the Deathwatch Veterans box will contain all the infantry bits

GW has been using the term frame - as seen in the leaked advertisement mail to retailers - for the large (A4-sized) vehicle upgrade sprues since at least third edition. Chaos, IG, Ravenwing - the latter being very diverse and including bits for bikes, land speeders (with Sammael/Master of the Ravenwing option) and tanks

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Imperial-Guard-Tank-Accessories

Description

WEBSTORE EXCLUSIVE

This pack contains 1 Imperial Guard Tank Accessory frame.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Regarding bits like shoulder pads, I guess the Deathwatch Veterans box will contain all the infantry bits

GW has been using the term frame - as seen in the leaked advertisement mail to retailers - for the large (A4-sized) vehicle upgrade sprues since at least third edition. Chaos, IG, Ravenwing - the latter being very diverse and including bits for bikes, land speeders (with Belial/Master of the Ravenwing option) and tanks

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Imperial-Guard-Tank-Accessories

DescriptionWEBSTORE EXCLUSIVE

This pack contains 1 Imperial Guard Tank Accessory frame.

Hmmm, I wonder just how far a box of Veterans will carry. I wouldn't like it if the boxed set didn't have enough bits to make the Vanguard Veterans decked out in Deathwatch armor as well. If there is enough parts in the box to go across multiple kits, I would pick up two DW Veterans and a Tactical Squad to make two 10-man Deathwatch Kill Teams. I doubt GW will be that generous though.

I guess they will put in enough bits to bling out at least another 5. Maybe it is even similiar to the Death Company boxed set. Two of them allow to bling out ~30 Blood Angels, although there are only 5 in a box. Sad Panda's hint about a Necron sword sounds like it will be a diverse kit which also comes with xenos weaponry.

I really want a DW shoulder pad for a Dread.

I want to see the cool Deathwatch Gunship.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want a DW shoulder pad for a Dread.

I don't know if they'll continue the shoulderpad motif to Dreads or not. More likely is to replace the front armor plate with Deathwatch specific plating instead and have some icon for the shoulder(s).

 Gamgee wrote:
I want to see the cool Deathwatch Gunship.

Just get some Inquisition doors from Forge World and slap them on whatever SM vehicle you want to use.

I still have a fair amount of the metal conversion bits left. This upgrade sprue better be pretty sweet.

 Breotan wrote:
I don't know if they'll continue the shoulderpad motif to Dreads or not. More likely is to replace the front armor plate with Deathwatch specific plating instead and have some icon for the shoulder(s).

I meant something like this:

 Breotan wrote:
Just get some Inquisition doors from Forge World and slap them on whatever SM vehicle you want to use.

Sorry sir. We won't try to have any wrongbadfun in the future. Apologies.

I want Inquisitors and Xeno-exterminating henchmen spraying poisons everywhere like they were killing roaches.

That would actually make me buy this.

Marines in Black?

I can take them or leave them.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Regarding bits like shoulder pads, I guess the Deathwatch Veterans box will contain all the infantry bits

GW has been using the term frame - as seen in the leaked advertisement mail to retailers - for the large (A4-sized) vehicle upgrade sprues since at least third edition. Chaos, IG, Ravenwing - the latter being very diverse and including bits for bikes, land speeders (with Belial/Master of the Ravenwing option) and tanks

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Imperial-Guard-Tank-Accessories

DescriptionWEBSTORE EXCLUSIVE

This pack contains 1 Imperial Guard Tank Accessory frame.

Hmmm, I wonder just how far a box of Veterans will carry. I wouldn't like it if the boxed set didn't have enough bits to make the Vanguard Veterans decked out in Deathwatch armor as well. If there is enough parts in the box to go across multiple kits, I would pick up two DW Veterans and a Tactical Squad to make two 10-man Deathwatch Kill Teams. I doubt GW will be that generous though.

I have to disagree; I really don't believe GW will scimp on the bitz. GW'S kits, especially for marines are always crammed full of bits. The 10 man Space Wolves kit has like 210 components. 5 man Sternguard has around 120 components. The Bangles squad has at least 150 components. The basic tac squad clocks in at an extremely generous 170, iirc correctly. We'll be okay when it comes to DW customization options.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I want Inquisitors and Xeno-exterminating henchmen spraying poisons everywhere like they were killing roaches.

That would actually make me buy this.

Marines in Black?

I can take them or leave them.

This - much as I'm loving the DW stuff, and I really am, I would love to see some Inq backup/puppetmasters coming along for the glorious ride!

The Deathwatch veterans could just be five of the figures from the board game?

 Mr Morden wrote:
The Deathwatch veterans could just be five of the figures from the board game?

Aye, or some sort of veterans with an upgrade sprue.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want a DW shoulder pad for a Dread.

I need more Terminator-size pads for artscaling, casting the one from DW:OK has proven a pain in the arse.

Ah yes, Terminator pads. Forgot about them. Got most of mine from painful bitz buying as a single one is in the regular Termy kit.

One guy who I bought some from couldn't fulfil the order, so cast some extras up for me. They honestly look like they're made of white chocolate!

I think the Harley's formation is what I'm looking forward to most, at present the Masque detachment is really restrictive and the formations rather uninspiring (Most of them seem to be geared around Voidweavers and Starweavers rather than the Players) and the lack of any HQ choices makes it impossible to field them in a CAD. I don't think it even matters if the bonus is any good, the set up just looks more usable.

Eldrad
2 units of Players
Deathjester
1 unit of Skyweavers
1 Voidweaver

 Imateria wrote:
I think the Harley's formation is what I'm looking forward to most, at present the Masque detachment is really restrictive and the formations rather uninspiring (Most of them seem to be geared around Voidweavers and Starweavers rather than the Players) and the lack of any HQ choices makes it impossible to field them in a CAD. I don't think it even matters if the bonus is any good, the set up just looks more usable.

Eldrad
2 units of Players
Deathjester
1 unit of Skyweavers
1 Voidweaver

Agreed, I just wish it was easier to slot a Shadowseer in here and there.

 Imateria wrote:
I think the Harley's formation is what I'm looking forward to most, at present the Masque detachment is really restrictive and the formations rather uninspiring (Most of them seem to be geared around Voidweavers and Starweavers rather than the Players) and the lack of any HQ choices makes it impossible to field them in a CAD. I don't think it even matters if the bonus is any good, the set up just looks more usable.

Eldrad
2 units of Players
Deathjester
1 unit of Skyweavers
1 Voidweaver

Honestly, it doesn't look good at all. First of all, what does Eldrad really bring to units of harlequins? Not a heck of a lot. He'd be better served palling around with something shootier since he has almost no melee power for his points cost, and definitely something more durable.

Death Jester, Skyweavers, Voidweaver...it's the trifecta of tax units that generally don't benefit at all from harlequin formations! There is almost no formation bonus they can come up with that will benefit all three.

This is basically a different flavor of Cegorach's Jest, the formation that doesn't benefit the skyweavers and voidweaver at all, and just forces you to take them because GW wants you to buy more models. Unless the benefit is something really head and shoulders better than most of the crappy bonuses we get, it's not going to be great. and given the track record with starter box/start collecting formations, I'm not expecting much for the massive points investment.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I don't know if they'll continue the shoulderpad motif to Dreads or not. More likely is to replace the front armor plate with Deathwatch specific plating instead and have some icon for the shoulder(s).

I meant something like this:

That's pretty ballin'


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 Yodhrin wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want a DW shoulder pad for a Dread.

I need more Terminator-size pads for artscaling, casting the one from DW:OK has proven a pain in the arse.

I used the Grey Knight shoulder pads for my DeathWatch terminators and Power Armored dudes.

Ive used the GK termi pads for termis but never got on board for using them on the PA.

I can't wait to see the new kits.

 Vain wrote:
Ive used the GK termi pads for termis but never got on board for using them on the PA.

They still have the pricey conversion kits: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Deathwatch-Kill-Team-Conversion-Kit

Vain wrote:You almost had me looking for an Eldar god "R'het C'hon"...

I thought he meant it was a Necron Lord at first.

Wouldn't it be awesome if GW included updated Kill Team rules in this codex based off of the HoR version? Not holding my breath, but what if . . .