general 40k release rumours : deathwatch vid page 18

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**angelofvengeance**

Stormonu wrote:
Wow, when I hopped back into this hobby, the starter set was somewhere around $80 (Assault of Black Reach/Necron re-release). Now it's going to be $150? That's ridiculous.

Well, it's not being sold as one so there you go. This is absolutely going to be a Shield of Baal: Deathstorm-style release.

**migooo**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Stormonu wrote:
Wow, when I hopped back into this hobby, the starter set was somewhere around $80 (Assault of Black Reach/Necron re-release). Now it's going to be $150? That's ridiculous.

Well, it's not being sold as one so there you go. This is absolutely going to be a Shield of Baal: Deathstorm-style release.

Well save that it kinda is.
it has everything that a starter set has save for one thing its a multi mini part kit instead of a a pushfit one.

It's not really a campaign box as that part is going to be sold separately.

**MajorWesJanson**

Stormonu wrote:
Wow, when I hopped back into this hobby, the starter set was somewhere around $80 (Assault of Black Reach/Necron re-release). Now it's going to be $150? That's ridiculous.

Well, starter sets are snapfit models. This is just the multi-part kits all combined in a box.

**Lockark**

Rygnan wrote:
Gamgee wrote:
Requizen wrote:
Gamgee wrote:
whembly wrote:
Gamgee wrote:
Do all of you know what this means?

Nope... it's all conjecture at this point. Maybe the fluff is "moving forward" a bit.

But, who knows what the impact will be in 40k gameplay.

As a Harlequin player, I am hopeful for some goodies, so... we'll see.

Wrong. It means... I was right. Feels good calling the future lore movement. I got called crazy so many times when I told them GW was going to do this.

Hahah.

Literally everyone was calling a lore movement. Nostradamus you ain't.

I've been saying this since last year and beyond when there were zero peeps. You can check my post record if you don't believe me.

And there's still zero evidence they're actually removing Slaanesh, in fact there's more substantial evidence to the contrary. For an example, check the All-Gates AoS book, which has Slaanesh followers making a pact with Clan Eshin for an as yet unknown reason, and AoS as a whole, which you are using as an example, is building up to a Slaanesh comeback in some way. As for the 'toning down' of Slaanesh, if you read any of the Slaanesh fluff from AoS they've doubled down on the debauchery and depravity, so not toned down exactly.

From a 40k perspective, there's nothing to say the Ynnead plot will be a major success, or even a success at all. Looking at all the other recent campaigns, all sides have had significant losses to offset the victory (death of Aun'va and the Raven Guard CM, loss of Damocles to both sides, possible loss of the Fenris system and loss of the Cryptus system) so who is to say it won't happen again? It's just as possible Ynnead will be birthed but won't defeat Slaanesh, or Ynnead won't be birthed at all. The 'big prophecy' all you people are touting as proof isn't even that Slaanesh will go away, it's only that the Eldar will be freed from Slaanesh devouring their souls, probably through Cegorach's treachery

This is why I'm sick of all the slaanesh haters who keep saying slaanesh is going away from the fluff. It's clear slaanesh isn't and if anything points towards a big story involving slaanesh, witch as a fan of them I can't wait for some slaanesh focused stuff.

**Devilmixer**

Stormonu wrote:
Wow, when I hopped back into this hobby, the starter set was somewhere around $80 (Assault of Black Reach/Necron re-release). Now it's going to be $150? That's ridiculous.

well this is not a starter, it is a campain pack

**unmercifulconker**

Wow still no pics, gg GW, although at least we can know the exact contents of upcoming releases, suppose it adds more hype.

Show us da Harlequin vs Deathwatch artwork, cant wait for that, although I hope the book doesn't have some overly cartoony art like Curse of the Wulfen did.

**migooo**

It's why I don't care really. If I had pics of the DW I might have think about splitting it. Ill just buy another overkill for the cult

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Devilmixer wrote:
Stormonu wrote:
Wow, when I hopped back into this hobby, the starter set was somewhere around $80 (Assault of Black Reach/Necron re-release). Now it's going to be $150? That's ridiculous.

well this is not a starter, it is a campain pack

Eh not really as the campaign bit will be maybe 2/3 scenarios. The main fluff will be in books which will be sold separately. It's not like Grudge of Drong where you got quite a bit of stuff.

**Warp Rider**

Excited for this release, also, if you've liked the recent dice like the Orruks and Sylvaneth ones, you'll be happy on Saturday alongside this release.

**Aexae**

Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

**migooo**

Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

please let it be true. its not but please.

**Januine**

Here's a pic courtesy of spikey bits.

**angelofvengeance**

Already been posted, Jan.

**Januine**

Knickers. Missed that ><

**unmercifulconker**

Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

You're playing with my heart.

**Imateria**

Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

I think you just got trolled.

**Aexae**

That would be sad :(
But only if you truly believe in the Emperor of Mankind his most zealous followers will come and purge the heretics!

**gungo**

Imateria wrote:
Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

I think you just got trolled.

well There is a fairly strong runour stating sisters are coming in the prospero box game from GW.
Whether that means sisters of silence and how those fit into sisters of battle for 40k I don't know.

However it's pretty obvious at the moment GW is heavily utilizing box games to test market desires on products. If there is a sisters box and it doesn't sell I can certainly see sisters being squatted.

**casvalremdeikun**

gungo wrote:
Imateria wrote:
Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

I think you just got trolled.

well There is a fairly strong runour stating sisters are coming in the prospero box game from GW.
Whether that means sisters of silence and how those fit into sisters of battle for 40k I don't know.

It was pretty strongly implied it was Sisters of Silence in that boxed set.

**gungo**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
gungo wrote:
Imateria wrote:
Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

I think you just got trolled.

well There is a fairly strong runour stating sisters are coming in the prospero box game from GW.
Whether that means sisters of silence and how those fit into sisters of battle for 40k I don't know.
It was pretty strongly implied it was Sisters of Silence in that boxed set.

That's what I said please read
Sisters of silence artwork is not really that different that sisters of battle artwork. They are both power armoured bolt gun wielding witch hunting fanatics with long red cloaks.

**gorgon**

gungo wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
gungo wrote:
Imateria wrote:
Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

I think you just got trolled.

well There is a fairly strong runour stating sisters are coming in the prospero box game from GW.
Whether that means sisters of silence and how those fit into sisters of battle for 40k I don't know.
It was pretty strongly implied it was Sisters of Silence in that boxed set.

That's what I said please read
Sisters of silence artwork is not really that different that sisters of battle artwork. They are both power armoured bolt gun wielding witch hunting fanatics with long red cloaks.

But they aren't the same thing.

**casvalremdeikun**

gorgon wrote:
gungo wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
gungo wrote:
Imateria wrote:
Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

I think you just got trolled.

well There is a fairly strong runour stating sisters are coming in the prospero box game from GW.
Whether that means sisters of silence and how those fit into sisters of battle for 40k I don't know.
It was pretty strongly implied it was Sisters of Silence in that boxed set.

That's what I said please read
Sisters of silence artwork is not really that different that sisters of battle artwork. They are both power armoured bolt gun wielding witch hunting fanatics with long red cloaks.

But they aren't the same thing.

Which was my point. It is Sisters of Silence in the box, not Sisters of Battle. Obviously intrepid modelers are going to use these models to make Sisters of Battle, but they aren't Sisters of Battle right out of the box.

**Kanluwen**

tneva82 wrote:
Stormonu wrote:
Wow, when I hopped back into this hobby, the starter set was somewhere around $80 (Assault of Black Reach/Necron re-release). Now it's going to be $150? That's ridiculous.

And the sick thing is it's still ridiculous money compared to buying individually. One part being the ridiculously inflated character prices due to GW's obsession with plastic eventhough plastic isn't ideal material for everything.

There's 3 character models in there. The Death Jester is $26, Eldrad and Watch-Captain Artemis are the two unknowns.

Removing them from the equation and looking strictly at the Harlequin half of the box? The issue isn't the $26 Death Jester--it's the $40 Harlequin Troupe box with 6 models.

**Captain Vyper**

SO $150 for both factions and a rule book, vs two $85 start collecting box sets (provided you are interested in both factions) and an $85 rule book totaling $255 even after what ever saving the $85 start collecting's would give us off of the standard box price of the individual units...right what a rip off! Really? Geez some folks just like to punch the gift horse in the mouth I guess. I for one am pretty excited for this one.

**Ghaz**

Captain Vyper wrote:
... and an $85 rule book...

Its a softcover rulebook, most likely the mini version.

**Captain Vyper**

Is the soft cover available out side of a boxed set?

**Chikout**

The starter sets are all monopose miniatures with no options. This box will include full multipart kits with all the options and extras that entails. In terms of pure number of pieces of plastic there will be far more in this than in your typical starter set.
Look at it another way it is 4 infantry units at £10 pounds each it is 2 vehicles and a pair of bikes for £10 each. 3 characters for £5 each and £10 for a rule book and scenario book. Any way you look at it that is a good price.

**angelofvengeance**

Captain Vyper wrote:
Is the soft cover available out side of a boxed set?

eBay is your best bet for that, I think.

**gungo**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
gorgon wrote:
gungo wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
gungo wrote:
Imateria wrote:
Aexae wrote:
Heard from my FLGS that the plastic SoB are coming and she already ordered some. no more reference than that, but hope is what we live for!

I think you just got trolled.

well There is a fairly strong runour stating sisters are coming in the prospero box game from GW.
Whether that means sisters of silence and how those fit into sisters of battle for 40k I don't know.
It was pretty strongly implied it was Sisters of Silence in that boxed set.

That's what I said please read
Sisters of silence artwork is not really that different that sisters of battle artwork. They are both power armoured bolt gun wielding witch hunting fanatics with long red cloaks.

But they aren't the same thing.
Which was my point. It is Sisters of Silence in the box, not Sisters of Battle. Obviously intrepid modelers are going to use these models to make Sisters of Battle, but they aren't Sisters of Battle right out of the box.

To be fair you can't even make this assumption because you simply don't know what happened.
After the heresy the remaining sisters of silence completely disappeared with a single reference of ar least one sister of silence becoming one of the founding inqusitors. Which makes complete sense because they were dedicated witch hunters during the heresy.
Roll forward 10000 years later the ecclessiary is formed somehow an entire regiment of sisters of battle is already around and become the militant arm of the eccleissary and again becoming part of the ordo heretic once again witch hunters.

This isn't exactly giant leaps of difference between the two factions except for the odd ability to be blanks for sisters of silence an ability that exists on 40k but hardly explored in the rules anymore. I'd put money down the sisters of silence are the precursor to the sisters of battle. They are that similar. It's about as different as a heresy army for space marines and a second founding chapter.

**angelofvengeance**

Chikout wrote:
The starter sets are all monopose miniatures with no options. This box will include full multipart kits with all the options and extras that entails. In terms of pure number of pieces of plastic there will be far more in this than in your typical starter set.
Look at it another way it is 4 infantry units at £10 pounds each it is 2 vehicles and a pair of bikes for £10 each. 3 characters for £5 each and £10 for a rule book and scenario book. Any way you look at it that is a good price.

Age of Sigmar is the only starter set so far with options. Or the Bloodreavers did, at least. Gave you options to make a musician, standard bearer, and champion, or just leave em as ordinary bloodreavers for a huge mob.

**Azreal13**

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