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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 20:36:54
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Been Around the Block
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The Raven Guard Pinion Demi-Company allows you to take certain special charachters instead of the 'standard' Captain.
If I take Captain Sicarius, what happens to his 'Ultramarine' specific rules, since he's now included in a formation with Raven Guard Chapter Tactics?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 20:43:18
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Not as Good as a Minion
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Does it specifically allow Sicarius?
Either way, read up on your Chapter Tactics section of your codex, does it allow you to change the Chapter Tactics of a model that comes set with it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 20:54:44
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Been Around the Block
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Yes, he is allowed.
Since all models need to have Raven Guard CT's, I guess he's gonna lose his CT Ultramarine, unless you can have two CT's active?
His Rites of War seems useless then also, since there are no Ultramarines to give LD 10 to...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 21:03:56
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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The Pinion battle demi company does not require Raven Guard chapter tactics to be used. The space marine formations (Not their decurions) can be used by any chapter and thus takes on their chapter tactics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 21:11:43
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Lieutenant General
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As above. The Talon Strike Force is restricted to the Raven Guard Chapter Tactics. The formations such as the Pinion Battle Demi-company is not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 22:46:29
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Been Around the Block
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Agreed, but if you take the Pinion as part of the Talon (which most people do), you're obliged to take CT Raven Guard for the Pinion right?
In which case it doesn't make much sense to substitute Sicarius
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 22:48:55
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Polkadragon wrote:Agreed, but if you take the Pinion as part of the Talon (which most people do), you're obliged to take CT Raven Guard for the Pinion right?
In which case it doesn't make much sense to substitute Sicarius
If taking a Talon Strike force you cannot take a unit with a Chapter tactic other than Raven Guard, so Sicarius would not be allowed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 22:56:09
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Been Around the Block
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ItsPug wrote:Polkadragon wrote:Agreed, but if you take the Pinion as part of the Talon (which most people do), you're obliged to take CT Raven Guard for the Pinion right?
In which case it doesn't make much sense to substitute Sicarius
If taking a Talon Strike force you cannot take a unit with a Chapter tactic other than Raven Guard, so Sicarius would not be allowed
Or any other of the 'named' substitutes for that matter, because they all have different CT's...
Another well thought out rule by GW *slow clap*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 23:04:18
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Lieutenant General
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Polkadragon wrote:Agreed, but if you take the Pinion as part of the Talon (which most people do), you're obliged to take CT Raven Guard for the Pinion right?
In which case it doesn't make much sense to substitute Sicarius
Check the superscript "1" next to the '1 Captain or Chaplain' bullet point for the Pinion Battle Demi-company in the 'Sons of Corax' section of the book (Codex Angels of Death, pg. 98).
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 23:13:00
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Been Around the Block
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Ghaz wrote:Polkadragon wrote:Agreed, but if you take the Pinion as part of the Talon (which most people do), you're obliged to take CT Raven Guard for the Pinion right?
In which case it doesn't make much sense to substitute Sicarius
Check the superscript "1" next to the '1 Captain or Chaplain' bullet point for the Pinion Battle Demi-company in the 'Sons of Corax' section of the book (Codex Angels of Death, pg. 98).
I don't have Angels of Death, got my Raven Guard info from the Kauyon book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 23:21:03
Subject: Captain Sicarius and Raven Guard Pinion
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Lieutenant General
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Page 156 of Kauyon says the exact same thing.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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