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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/04 20:18:52
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Dakka Veteran
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Hello,
This combines a Purge Detachment of Black Legion with a Combined Arms Detachment of Crimson Slaughter. Please let me know what you think.
Black Legion
Daemon Prince
-Nurgle, The Black Mace, The Skull of Ker'ngar (eternal warrior), Wings
Huron Blackheart
-Warlord (infiltrate chemical weapon plague marines)
Plague Marines
-Veterans of the Long War, Rhino, 2x Chemical Flamer, Combi-Chemical-flamer
Plague Marines
-Veterans of the Long War, Rhino, 2x Chemical Flamer, Combi-Chemical-flamer
Vindicator Tank Destroyer
-Distraction Carnifex
Crimson Slaughter
Biker Lord
-Daemonheart, Blade of the Relentless, Nurgle, Blight grenades, Sigil of corruption
Possessed Lord
-Power Maul, Nurgle, Blight grenades, Prophet of the Voices
Plague Marines
-Rhino, 2x Plasma Gun, Combi-plasma
Possessed
-Mark of Nurgle, x9 including Champion
Dreadclaw Drop Pod
-Possessed and Prophet of the Voices ride here
Spawn
-Mark of Nurgle, 5x Spawn, ablative wounds for Biker Lord
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/08/04 20:20:33
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/05 01:01:31
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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Can only take 1 relic per model, BL prince and CS biker lord are illegal.
Crimson slaughter is also illegal since only primary detatchment get cult troops as appropriate to the marked lord.
Suggest replacing the vindicator with MoN oblits.
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Peregrine wrote:What, you don't like rolling dice to see how many dice you roll? Why are you such an anti-dice bigot? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/05 06:06:14
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Wow that sucks about only one relic per model. The Crimson Slaughter is primary detachment so the list is legal apart from relics (plague marines are elites in the purge detachment)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/06 00:16:24
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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Cimson Slaughter can't be your primary since Primary is determined by where your warlord comes from.
Edit: (You've got Huron listed as Warlord from the Purge detatchment, meaning that's your primary)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/08/06 00:17:38
Peregrine wrote:What, you don't like rolling dice to see how many dice you roll? Why are you such an anti-dice bigot? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/06 08:54:25
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Ah thanks you are right... One thing, where does it say in rules Chaos Lord can't have more than one relic? I believe you just can't find it. Really ruins some great combinations with Daemonheart.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/06 10:08:53
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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It's in the draft FAQ, so it depends on your opponent whether you use it already.
I'd suggest making the "possessed lord" a possessed sorcerer, that way you could summon daemons. And personally, I think that's the only reason why I would ever take that relic...
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/08/06 10:10:46
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/07 21:20:45
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
New England
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It's in the draft FAQ for loyalist marines. NOT for CSM.
Butthurt loyalist players try to claim CSM can't because they cant, but the CSM codex and supplements do indeed allow multiple relics on characters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/08 02:38:26
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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KhorneontheCobb wrote:It's in the draft FAQ for loyalist marines. NOT for CSM.
Butthurt loyalist players try to claim CSM can't because they cant, but the CSM codex and supplements do indeed allow multiple relics on characters.
Actually, it's from the BRB/General FAQ, not the one specific to vanilla marines.
Just because you're all salty that you were reading the rules incorrectly, don't try and blame everyone else. I'm a CSM primary player (not that it matters), so please don't try and tar me (or anyone else) with being a hater for pointing out rules inconsist with somebodies list.
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Peregrine wrote:What, you don't like rolling dice to see how many dice you roll? Why are you such an anti-dice bigot? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/09 08:11:17
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Dakka Veteran
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"...Unless specifically noted otherwise."
"A Model can replace one weapon with one of the following. Only one of each Chaos Artefact may be taken per army."
-Chaos Space Marine Codex pg.91
"May take items from the Melee Weapons. Ranged Weapons, Chaos Rewards, Special Issue Wargear and/or Chaos Artefacts sections of the wargear list."
-Chaos Space Marine Codex pg.93
I don't know if that is specifically noting otherwise? A Lord has more than one weapon to replace with Chaos Artefacts...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/08/09 08:13:26
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/09 18:48:06
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Beast of Nurgle
Thomaston, Maine
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It doesn't say he can replace two weapons with two artefacts, it specifies that one weapon can be replaced by one artefact. I'm a CSM player and I agree that that sounds pretty straightforward. If it said "any one weapon with any one of the following," it might be open to interpretation, but otherwise "one" is pretty straightforward.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/10 02:21:49
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Hellacious Havoc
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Drasius wrote:Can only take 1 relic per model, BL prince and CS biker lord are illegal.
Crimson slaughter is also illegal since only primary detatchment get cult troops as appropriate to the marked lord.
Suggest replacing the vindicator with MoN oblits.
Aren't 2 MoN Oblits more expensive than 1 bare bones vindi?
Oh, and the Crimson Slaughter Supplement doesn't say anything about only 1 relic, just saying.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/08/10 02:26:30
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/10 20:57:48
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter and Black Legion
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Fresh-Faced New User
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EverlastingNewb wrote: Drasius wrote:Can only take 1 relic per model, BL prince and CS biker lord are illegal.
Crimson slaughter is also illegal since only primary detatchment get cult troops as appropriate to the marked lord.
Suggest replacing the vindicator with MoN oblits.
Aren't 2 MoN Oblits more expensive than 1 bare bones vindi?
Oh, and the Crimson Slaughter Supplement doesn't say anything about only 1 relic, just saying.
MoN Obliterators are really nice and versatile, have an invul, and are more survivable in most situations than a vindicator. There's arguments both ways i just prefer oblits.
The 1 relic thing was adressed in the FAQ. Not in the book, sadly.
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