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Can we please cut the abortion debate? It will only end badly....

 feeder wrote:
I don't think we should go down the rabbit hole of "Abortion" in this US Politics thread.

I hear you and will drop it.

Regarding Trump and his calls for 2A people to take care of HRC:
I think it's either very clumsy wording from some one who's only real gift is public speaking, or it's a easily deniable comment showing he supports the murder of HRC.

Considering his previous comments about supporting people who assault protesters and the overt "hang her" chants from his crowds, I'm inclined to believe the it's latter.

It was one of those many sly comments certain types of people make, that when caught back track. He knew what he was doing (no actually reference was made to 2nd Amender's ability to influence voting at all) so I am perfectly fine with the news media and the Democrats going apeshit, and appropriately so.

 jmurph wrote:
Can we please cut the abortion debate? It will only end badly....

I'll back off the issue, for my part.

Quick update for American dakka members: Communists have infiltrated and taken over the Labour party in the UK, so we need American leadership more than anything...

It's reds under the bed here in the UK - they're taking advantage of our weakened post-BREXIT economy...

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Quick update for American dakka members: Communists have infiltrated and taken over the Labour party in the UK, so we need American leadership more than anything...

It's reds under the bed here in the UK - they're taking advantage of our weakened post-BREXIT economy...

The 1950s called. They want their Red Scare back.

 Frazzled wrote:

Regarding Trump and his calls for 2A people to take care of HRC:
I think it's either very clumsy wording from some one who's only real gift is public speaking, or it's a easily deniable comment showing he supports the murder of HRC.

Considering his previous comments about supporting people who assault protesters and the overt "hang her" chants from his crowds, I'm inclined to believe the it's latter.

It was one of those many sly comments certain types of people make, that when caught back track. He knew what he was doing (no actually reference was made to 2nd Amender's ability to influence voting at all) so I am perfectly fine with the news media and the Democrats going apeshit, and appropriately so.

Trump is a dumbass.

So is there like any petition or whatever I can sign to get Johnson into the debates even if he doesn't make the 15% requirement? Clinton v. Trump is a pure gak-show I have no interest in watching, and I think we deserve at least 2 grownups in our Presidential Debates.

I think he will be there. Rumors are that the sites have been told to prepare a 3rd podium, and I think another news channel is holding a town hall with him. I think that people are interested and the news channels seem to be working on increasing exposure to get him past the 15% hurdle.


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Speaking of polls:

Trump has managed to make himself the least supported GOP candidates by black voters. Even with all the complaints about black people voting for Obama because he was black, Trump has lower poll numbers than McCain or Romney. He is currently polling in 4th place with 2%, behind Johnson and Stein.

 jasper76 wrote:
So is there like any petition or whatever I can sign to get Johnson into the debates even if he doesn't make the 15% requirement? Clinton v. Trump is a pure gak-show I have no interest in watching, and I think we deserve at least 2 grownups in our Presidential Debates.

Me too... I'd listen to that stoner over the other two yahoos.


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 d-usa wrote:
I think he will be there. Rumors are that the sites have been told to prepare a 3rd podium, and I think another news channel is holding a town hall with him. I think that people are interested and the news channels seem to be working on increasing exposure to get him past the 15% hurdle.

Quick... let's start a party together and get on the debate too...

You be Prez, and I'll be the VP.

Party Planks:
-don't do stupid gak.
-federal holidays for bi-yearly table-top tournaments
-federal holidays for federal elections.
-a bone in every dog bowl.
-single-issue bills for greater transparencies.
-tax write off for hobby related expenses, including the Mountain Dew / Doritos expeditures.
-push for a bill to call Trump "CheetoJesus".

I'm sure we can make this tent quite large and engaging.

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Speaking of polls:

Trump has managed to make himself the least supported GOP candidates by black voters. Even with all the complaints about black people voting for Obama because he was black, Trump has lower poll numbers than McCain or Romney. He is currently polling in 4th place with 2%, behind Johnson and Stein.

Yup.

Stick a fork in it yo...

Madame President Hillary Clinton and (First Dude?) Bill Clinton will bring the band back together at the White House.

First gentleman Clinton will be interesting, he has a lot of experience and could be a good diplomat. Then again he may have trouble with some more regressive womens right states when the leaders have their wives visit

 Ustrello wrote:
First gentleman Clinton will be interesting, he has a lot of experience and could be a good diplomat.

That's actually a decent point. Maybe their daughter Chelsa would take up the more traditional "first lady" role in the East wing.

Then again he may have trouble with some more regressive womens right states when the leaders have their wives visit

Nah... at worst, he'll come off as a creepy old fogey. Like this:


I know I would...

-a bone in every dog bowl.
Well thats secured the support of Team Wiener dog.

 Ustrello wrote:
First gentleman Clinton will be interesting, he has a lot of experience and could be a good diplomat.

I don't know...old Bill looked pretty frail and "out of it" at the convention, like maybe his working days are behind him...I guess he might have just been drunk.

A debate with third party candidates would be interesting!

 jasper76 wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:
First gentleman Clinton will be interesting, he has a lot of experience and could be a good diplomat.

I don't know...old Bill looked pretty frail and "out of it" at the convention, like maybe his working days are behind him...I guess he might have just been drunk.

It's not like Biden is young, spry and never says anything stupid and he goes on lots of diplomatic missions. If we're sending the VP or First Dude instead of the PotUS or SecState then it's not a serious negotiation it's just a token appearance. For a token appearance all you have to do is smile in the photo op, shake hands and enjoy the free food and drink.

Is it wrong, that in my head, i read this as:

For a token appearance all you have to do is smile in the photo op, shake hands and enjoy the free food, bootie and drink.

 jasper76 wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:
First gentleman Clinton will be interesting, he has a lot of experience and could be a good diplomat.

I don't know...old Bill looked pretty frail and "out of it" at the convention, like maybe his working days are behind him...I guess he might have just been drunk.

Well when you get to be almost 70 you tend to look a bit frail, I mean we elected Reagan and he most likely had Alzheimers at the end of his term

Lets not forget He's had SERIOUS heart surgeries and issues. All things considered, he's doing ok.

 Frazzled wrote:
Lets not forget He's had SERIOUS heart surgeries and issues. All things considered, he's doing ok.

Even Hillary was treated for blood clot after a fall in 2013. I'm willing to bet she'd be on blood thinner for the rest of her life.

Trump seems like a walking stroke/heart attack timebomb:





Good news though... whomever wins will have the best physicians on the planet looking after them, once they're in the WH.

There is no proof that Trump ate the KFC or Taco salad. Just some publicity still photos.

I bet he...didn't eat either!

 kronk wrote:
There is no proof that Trump ate the KFC or Taco salad. Just some publicity still photos.

I bet he...didn't eat either!

The fact that he would even consider eating KFC with a knife and fork is just further proof that Trump shouldn't ever be trusted to be in charge of anything, ever.

Prestor Jon wrote:

 kronk wrote:
There is no proof that Trump ate the KFC or Taco salad. Just some publicity still photos.

I bet he...didn't eat either!

The fact that he would even consider eating KFC with a knife and fork is just further proof that Trump shouldn't ever be trusted to be in charge of anything, ever.

Well... to be fair... I use a fork and knife too.

BUT WAIT... THERE'S A REASON!

I like to dip the shaved off meat into the potato/gravey concoction.

But, I got nothing on why he eats pizza with a fork. It ain't the Chicago casserole pie! (that ain't 'pizza' you northern heathen )

To be fair, I've seen people eat pizza with a knife and fork here in France. So maybe Trump is a secret surrender monkey.

 whembly wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:

 kronk wrote:
There is no proof that Trump ate the KFC or Taco salad. Just some publicity still photos.

I bet he...didn't eat either!

The fact that he would even consider eating KFC with a knife and fork is just further proof that Trump shouldn't ever be trusted to be in charge of anything, ever.

Well... to be fair... I use a fork and knife too.

BUT WAIT... THERE'S A REASON!

I like to dip the shaved off meat into the potato/gravey concoction.

But, I got nothing on why he eats pizza with a fork. It ain't the Chicago casserole pie! (that ain't 'pizza' you northern heathen )

It's fast food fried chicken just use your fingers to pull it apart and dunk it in gravy. You shouldn't be eating KFC in any setting that requires serious table manners and etiquette.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
To be fair, I've seen people eat people with a knife and fork here in France. So maybe Trump is a secret surrender monkey.

Soylent green gets served a lot in France? I thought eating snails was gross but people is way worse.

 whembly wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:

 kronk wrote:
There is no proof that Trump ate the KFC or Taco salad. Just some publicity still photos.

I bet he...didn't eat either!

The fact that he would even consider eating KFC with a knife and fork is just further proof that Trump shouldn't ever be trusted to be in charge of anything, ever.

Well... to be fair... I use a fork and knife too.

BUT WAIT... THERE'S A REASON!

I like to dip the shaved off meat into the potato/gravey concoction.

But, I got nothing on why he eats pizza with a fork. It ain't the Chicago casserole pie! (that ain't 'pizza' you northern heathen )

Proof Whembly is a secret Trump plant, he eats his KFC just like Trump

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
To be fair, I've seen people eat people with a knife and fork here in France. So maybe Trump is a secret surrender monkey.

Actually, that just backs Trump's claim that he only surrounds himself with winners.

109-49-10 is one of the best records in the history of the world.

 whembly wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:

 kronk wrote:
There is no proof that Trump ate the KFC or Taco salad. Just some publicity still photos.

I bet he...didn't eat either!

The fact that he would even consider eating KFC with a knife and fork is just further proof that Trump shouldn't ever be trusted to be in charge of anything, ever.

Well... to be fair... I use a fork and knife too.

BUT WAIT... THERE'S A REASON!

I like to dip the shaved off meat into the potato/gravey concoction.

But, I got nothing on why he eats pizza with a fork. It ain't the Chicago casserole pie! (that ain't 'pizza' you northern heathen )

Because he doesn't know how to eat it properly without cutlery.

As evidence I submit exhibit 1:

Prestor Jon wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:

 kronk wrote:
There is no proof that Trump ate the KFC or Taco salad. Just some publicity still photos.

I bet he...didn't eat either!

The fact that he would even consider eating KFC with a knife and fork is just further proof that Trump shouldn't ever be trusted to be in charge of anything, ever.

Well... to be fair... I use a fork and knife too.

BUT WAIT... THERE'S A REASON!

I like to dip the shaved off meat into the potato/gravey concoction.

But, I got nothing on why he eats pizza with a fork. It ain't the Chicago casserole pie! (that ain't 'pizza' you northern heathen )

It's fast food fried chicken just use your fingers to pull it apart and dunk it in gravy. You shouldn't be eating KFC in any setting that requires serious table manners and etiquette.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
To be fair, I've seen people eat people with a knife and fork here in France. So maybe Trump is a secret surrender monkey.

Soylent green gets served a lot in France? I thought eating snails was gross but people is way worse.

Well, if you run out of snails you have to go for the next best thing, don't you?
Yeah, that was a typo. Fixed it.

 sebster wrote:
I think the real story though was the sheer number of crazies on the fringes. Carson is totally fething bonkers, and he still commands a real audience within the base. This tells me that the culture that's more and more the voters in the Republican party just don't care about boring stuff like effectively managing the country. It's about a sending a message about whatever stupid cause they believe in - want to prove you're a true Christian then Carson is your man, want to stick it to Muslims and political correctness then you vote Trump, if you worship at the shrine of business then you pick Fiorina. It just didn't matter that none of these people had the slightest clue about what they would actually do in government.

The sad thing is I don't think the crazies are really "the fringes" anymore. The moment that stands out to me is in the republican debates, when Kasich dared to suggest that a border wall and mass deportations would cost an obscene amount of money and aren't realistic plans. The immediate response from everyone else? Accusing him of being soft on illegal immigration and letting all the Mexicans be lazy welfare parasites (and simultaneously steal all of our jobs), and emphasizing the need to build a border wall and have mass deportations. The voters don't want a sensible candidate saying "we should enact conservative policies within the bounds of what is possible", they want someone to pander to their masturbatory fantasies of how things should be. The awkward truth is that it's the "mainstream" republican party now, not the fringes, doing this stuff. And I don't really see any way to fix the problem.

 Peregrine wrote:

 sebster wrote:
I think the real story though was the sheer number of crazies on the fringes. Carson is totally fething bonkers, and he still commands a real audience within the base. This tells me that the culture that's more and more the voters in the Republican party just don't care about boring stuff like effectively managing the country. It's about a sending a message about whatever stupid cause they believe in - want to prove you're a true Christian then Carson is your man, want to stick it to Muslims and political correctness then you vote Trump, if you worship at the shrine of business then you pick Fiorina. It just didn't matter that none of these people had the slightest clue about what they would actually do in government.

The sad thing is I don't think the crazies are really "the fringes" anymore. The moment that stands out to me is in the republican debates, when Kasich dared to suggest that a border wall and mass deportations would cost an obscene amount of money and aren't realistic plans. The immediate response from everyone else? Accusing him of being soft on illegal immigration and letting all the Mexicans be lazy welfare parasites (and simultaneously steal all of our jobs), and emphasizing the need to build a border wall and have mass deportations. The voters don't want a sensible candidate saying "we should enact conservative policies within the bounds of what is possible", they want someone to pander to their masturbatory fantasies of how things should be. The awkward truth is that it's the "mainstream" republican party now, not the fringes, doing this stuff. And I don't really see any way to fix the problem.

The right has aggressively courted the crazies...insert misinformed/uninformed, fear-addled, idiot group here...for the last 8 years in an attempt to wrestle the White House away from Obama. Yes, they were always there, but not prominently featured players as they are today. Add a healthy daily dose of the 24/7 propaganda machine that is the Fear, I mean Fox, News, a few prominent Tea Party mouthpieces and the fringe now feel empowered and have come in from the shadows from under their rocks where they should have been kept. The solution, God knows. The intelligent right, for the most part, has gone Vichy so they're not going to have much of an impact. Hate like this usually burns itself out, but only after something bad happens unfortunately.