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 Dreadwinter wrote:
What do her transcripts have to do with anything?


Nothing, but he's gotta do something to make his boy Trump look better

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 whembly wrote:
Before rolling your eyes... yes, this is a bit different:
EXCLUSIVE: Joint FBI-US Attorney Probe Of Clinton Foundation Is Underway
Spoiler:
Multiple FBI investigations are underway involving potential corruption charges against the Clinton Foundation, according to a former senior law enforcement official.

The investigation centers on New York City where the Clinton Foundation has its main offices, according to the former official who has direct knowledge of the activities.

Prosecutorial support will come from various U.S. Attorneys Offices — a major departure from other centralized FBI investigations.

The New York-based probe is being led by Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. Bharara’s prosecutorial aggressiveness has resulted in a large number of convictions of banks, hedge funds and Wall Street insiders.

The official said involvement of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York “would be seen by agents as a positive development as prosecutors there are generally thought to be more aggressive than the career lawyers within the DOJ.”

Bharara’s official biography notes that he, “has applied renewed focus on large-scale, sophisticated financial frauds by creating two new units – the Complex Frauds Unit and the complementary Civil Frauds Unit.

“The Civil Frauds Unit has collected close to $500 million in settlements since its inception, including multi-million dollar settlements with Deutsche Bank and CitiMortgage for faulty lending practices and other fraudulent conduct.”

Nicholas Biase, a spokesman for Bharara, said he would “decline comment.” Similarly, FBI spokeswoman Samantha Shero said, “we do not have a comment on investigative activity.”

Bharara is best known for securing convictions of prominent political figures, including former New York State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver. Silver had a seemingly intractable grip on power in the state for decades. He was convicted of accepting $4 million in exchange for helping a cancer researcher and two real estate developers.

He also secured the conviction of New York Republican Majority Leader Dean Skelos, who was sentenced to five years in prison for corruption.

The former official said the investigation is being coordinated between bureau field offices and FBI managers at headquarters in Washington, D.C. The unusual process would ensure senior FBI supervisors, including Director James Comey, would be kept abreast of case progress and of significant developments.

The reliance on U.S. attorneys would be a significant departure from the centralized manner in which the FBI managed the investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of a private server and email addresses.

That investigation was conducted with agents at FBI headquarters, who coordinated with the Department of Justice’s National Security Division (NSD).

The Clinton email probe was considered a “small cell” investigation, with FBI agents and NSD attorneys frequently conferring. Comey short-circuited the effort in early July by announcing that “no reasonable prosecutor” would try Clinton for the “careless” handling of classified material.

“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information,” he announced in a July 5 press conference.

Comey, however, wouldn’t answer questions about any ongoing FBI investigation of the Clinton Foundation.

Before a July 7 congressional hearing about his decision not to recommend prosecution of Clinton, Comey told House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Jason Chaffetz, “I’m not going to comment on the existence or nonexistence of other investigations.”

“Was the Clinton Foundation tied into this investigation?” Chaffetz persisted.

“I’m not going to answer that,” Comey replied.

In its 15 years of operations, the Clinton Foundation, formally known as the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, has collected up to $2 billion from donors, according to The Washington Post. The donors include a wide range of the world’s wealthiest people: Eastern European tycoons, Arab Sheiks, African mining magnates, hedge fund billionaires and Wall Street firms.

The Post reported that the couple brought in $3 billion when campaign contributions are included in the total. “The Clintons’ fundraising operation — $3 billion amassed by one couple, working in tandem for more than four decades — has no equal,” the Post reported in a wide-ranging investigation into the sources of the couple’s funds.

In a related development Thursday, CNN reported that earlier this year, Justice Department officials in three different field offices “were in agreement a public corruption investigation should be launched” of Clinton Foundation activities.

The probe was sparked by a bank notifying the FBI of “suspicious activity” around a foreign donor to the Clinton Foundation, according to Pamela Brown, CNN’s Justice Department reporter.

Had it been launched, that investigation would have looked at conflicts of interest between requests by foreign donors and official acts by Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. CNN did not identify the bank or the foreign donor.

Brown reported the FBI and Justice Department officials met but there was “disagreement” whether to launch such an investigation. In the end, the investigation was killed.

A separate investigation was approved, however, focusing on Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, who was a member of the Clinton Foundation’s board of directors for most if its existence.


Preet Bharara!

Any NY'er want to comment on this? Isn't he known as THE TERMINATOR in NY?!?

He took down Sheldon Silver (D) and Dean Sekla (R)... who were one of 'The Big Fish' in NY poltics.


Skelos. And they weren't just a few of the big fish, they were the biggest. Only Cumo could really match his power or name recognition in state politics (and he might be next, certainly seems slimey enough) .

If Bharara is involved, they'll find anything there. He's good. Like AG material good.

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 WrentheFaceless wrote:
 Dreadwinter wrote:
What do her transcripts have to do with anything?


Nothing, but he's gotta do something to make his boy Trump look better


There's been ample speculation that Hillary made promises to Goldman Sachs and Wall St companies that she would support them and not pass legislation that cracks down on some of their problematic business practices. Bernie Sanders called for Clinton to release those transcripts so the public could see what Hillary was telling them that made it worth paying her hundreds of thousands of dollars.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/26/politics/jane-sanders-tax-returns/

Washington (CNN)Bernie and Jane Sanders won't release their back tax returns until Democratic rival Hillary Clinton releases the transcripts of her Wall Street speeches, Jane Sanders said Tuesday afternoon.

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No-one cares about the Sanders's tax returns. It's Trump's tax returns that everyone except his supporters wants to see.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
No-one cares about the Sanders's tax returns. It's Trump's tax returns that everyone except his supporters wants to see.


to be clear: we don't just want his tax returns. We want his long form tax returns made public.

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 WrentheFaceless wrote:
 Dreadwinter wrote:
What do her transcripts have to do with anything?


Nothing, but he's gotta do something to make his boy Trump look better


There's been ample speculation that Hillary made promises to Goldman Sachs and Wall St companies that she would support them and not pass legislation that cracks down on some of their problematic business practices. Bernie Sanders called for Clinton to release those transcripts so the public could see what Hillary was telling them that made it worth paying her hundreds of thousands of dollars.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/26/politics/jane-sanders-tax-returns/

Washington (CNN)Bernie and Jane Sanders won't release their back tax returns until Democratic rival Hillary Clinton releases the transcripts of her Wall Street speeches, Jane Sanders said Tuesday afternoon.


Are people also worried about her making promises at her other speaking engagements?
   
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Haven't we always demanded transcripts for every fundraiser and private speech by everyone?
   
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 d-usa wrote:
Haven't we always demanded transcripts for every fundraiser and private speech by everyone?

I don't think so... has that always been a "thing"?

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I think you just prpved his point, Whem'...

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Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I think you just prpved his point, Whem'...

I know... being rhetorical ("thing").

I guess when a major opponent is asking for those transcripts, and Hillary has dogged it... it makes it interesting in the sense that now we're all wondering... "what's she hiding?".

I mean, if it were a nothing burger... she'd release and those pining for it would have eggs on their face.

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 whembly wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I think you just prpved his point, Whem'...

I know... being rhetorical ("thing").

I guess when a major opponent is asking for those transcripts, and Hillary has dogged it... it makes it interesting in the sense that now we're all wondering... "what's she hiding?".

I mean, if it were a nothing burger... she'd release and those pining for it would have eggs on their face.


But if she wins, you're gonna give her a fair shot. Right? AMIRIGHT?!?

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
No-one cares about the Sanders's tax returns. It's Trump's tax returns that everyone except his supporters wants to see.

eh...
Bernie Sanders buys a $575,000 vacation home and the Internet cries hypocrisy

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 gorgon wrote:
 whembly wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I think you just prpved his point, Whem'...

I know... being rhetorical ("thing").

I guess when a major opponent is asking for those transcripts, and Hillary has dogged it... it makes it interesting in the sense that now we're all wondering... "what's she hiding?".

I mean, if it were a nothing burger... she'd release and those pining for it would have eggs on their face.


But if she wins, you're gonna give her a fair shot. Right? AMIRIGHT?!?

A fair shot in what?

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So Trump's political consultant, Paul Manafort, is a big name...who has helped a lot of bad people.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_manafort_isn_t_a_gop_retread_he_s_made_a_career_of_reinventing_tyrants.html

The interesting question comes late in the article:

Why would Paul Manafort so consistently do the bidding of oligarchs loyal to Vladimir Putin?


*sniff sniff* Is that the smell of something traitorous in the air?

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Anybody take a look at this? Donald Trump's Economic Plan

It is interesting that he bags on NAFTA (signed by Bush sr and supported by Republicans, not signed by Bill Clinton as stated by Trump), China's entry into the WTO ( a reversal of pro Chinese reform policy dating back to Nixon), and the TPP (supported by both Obama and Republicans).

And he cites to the Economic Policy Institute! It's like HRC citing the Cato Institute or something.

Interestingly the same old abolish the estate tax, lower taxes and ease regulations, etc. that disproportionately benefit the donor class are still there.



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Having succeeded at polling worse with African-Anericans than any other recent GOP candidate, Trump now tanks the Latino vote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/12/donald-trump-is-now-doing-worse-with-hispanic-voters-than-any-republican-since-1996/?ref=yfp
   
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 Kilkrazy wrote:
No-one cares about the Sanders's tax returns. It's Trump's tax returns that everyone except his supporters wants to see.


I never claimed anyone did. A statement was made that Clinton's transcripts were irrelevant and only brought up by Trump/Republicans for partisan reasons. I rebutted with the CNN article to show that Sanders made an issue out of the transcripts during the Democrat primary. You can disagree with the idea that the transcripts are a problem for Clinton but it's not just a Republican mud slinging faux scandal, it was being discussed by the Sanders campaign before Trump won the nomination.

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I wasn't claiming you were claiming anything.

No-one cares about the Sanders's tax returns because he's not a candidate any more.

We do care about Trump's tax returns. What is Trump hiding?

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I think Bernie dodged a bullet by not being forced to disclose the big rollers he is indebted to.

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 whembly wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I think you just prpved his point, Whem'...

I know... being rhetorical ("thing").

I guess when a major opponent is asking for those transcripts, and Hillary has dogged it... it makes it interesting in the sense that now we're all wondering... "what's she hiding?".

I mean, if it were a nothing burger... she'd release and those pining for it would have eggs on their face.


Hey man, I am curious about your private life. I am going to need you to release all that info to me. If you got nothing to hide, you will release it to me.

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Actually, Sanders did hit some contributor irregularities.

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I clicked that wondering what you were talking about. Now I know. Good work.

Newest battleground state numbers are out....
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

I wonder what happened May 20th and July 26th that got Trump even close?



Also, I wish there was a way we could link Hillary's speech transcripts to her Emails and Benghazi in some sort of Kevin Bacon-esque game?

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 jmurph wrote:
Anybody take a look at this? Donald Trump's Economic Plan

It is interesting that he bags on NAFTA (signed by Bush sr and supported by Republicans, not signed by Bill Clinton as stated by Trump), China's entry into the WTO ( a reversal of pro Chinese reform policy dating back to Nixon), and the TPP (supported by both Obama and Republicans).

And he cites to the Economic Policy Institute! It's like HRC citing the Cato Institute or something.

Interestingly the same old abolish the estate tax, lower taxes and ease regulations, etc. that disproportionately benefit the donor class are still there.



Did you see his infrastructure plans? It's double that of Clinton's plan.


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 Dreadwinter wrote:
 whembly wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I think you just prpved his point, Whem'...

I know... being rhetorical ("thing").

I guess when a major opponent is asking for those transcripts, and Hillary has dogged it... it makes it interesting in the sense that now we're all wondering... "what's she hiding?".

I mean, if it were a nothing burger... she'd release and those pining for it would have eggs on their face.


Hey man, I am curious about your private life. I am going to need you to release all that info to me. If you got nothing to hide, you will release it to me.

Look forward to a good read when you send that information!

You first!

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Drudge Report has a flashing siren gif above the following headline.
HACKER HORROR: ALL PRIVATE CELLPHONE NUMBERS OF DEMS IN CONGRESS MADE PUBLIC

No link to an actual news article so this is probably breaking/developing news.


 
   
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I seriously don't think Trump wants to be president. He is literally doing everything he can to not be elected. I think he did this whole thing on lark and to get publicity for himself but then somehow to even his own surprise he kept winning. Besides making sure he says the most outlandish thing he can think of every ay the real clue will be the 80 million dollars he's raised (sadly from mostly poor people). Trump loves money, you know how hard it will be for him to spend that 80 million? So far he's spent $0 on advertising. Trump's masterplan is to just pocket that $80 Million and lose the presidency then blame the whole thing on the RNC not supporting him/election was rigged anyway.

 
   
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Trump is back to his rigged election talk.
   
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Yes, he's saying "if he loses Pennsylvania, it was rigged". Meanwhile, HRC is up 10 points in PA.

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 d-usa wrote:
So on Day 1 Trump said Obama is the founder of ISIS, on Day 2 he doubled down on it and stopped anyone from trying to correct him, and today on Day 3 he says it was all just sarcasm and nobody understands him.

Business as usual?


Day 3.5: "not that sarcastic."

But at a rally in Erie, Pa. Friday afternoon, Trump amended himself once more, saying he was being "not that sarcastic" in his remarks about the president, which garnered criticism because of other dubious suggestions about Obama, such as his birthplace and religion.

"When I said that Obama -- and of course I’m being sarcastic. And they know that. Because after I said that, I said he’s the MVP," Trump said.

"So I said, the founder of ISIS. Obviously I’m being sarcastic," he said. Then, perplexingly, he immediately added, "Then, then -- but not that sarcastic, to be honest with you. "
   
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At this point, everyone sensible ought to put Trump on thir Ignore list. He has become annoying and painful to listen to and he never says anything worth hearing.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
At this point, everyone sensible ought to put Trump on thir Ignore list. He has become annoying and painful to listen to and he never says anything worth hearing.


Naw, he's the Conspiracy Theorist in Chief. I eagerly await him topping "Founder of ISIS", because the nature of Trumpian conspiracies is that each theory must be more outrageous than the last. I actually think that his new thing about dragging American citizens off to Gitmo to be tried by a military tribunal, if suspected of terrorism, is even crazier than Founder of ISIS (though that isn't really a conspiracy theory; it's just crazy). And the whole "Hillary is cheating if she wins PA" is nearly as crazy, since he's polling behind in double digits (and that IS a conspiracy theory).

The wonderful thing about Trump is that every time he says something totally ridiculous, he chips away at his own support, and that has significant down ballot implications. It's likely that because of him, the Republicans lose the Senate (because someone who doesn't show up to vote for him, also doesn't show up to vote down the ticket); but It's not inconceivable that he could singlehandedly hand both houses of congress to the Democrats.

Since the Republicans are defending 20+ seats in the Senate this go-around, it's actually not inconceivable that he hand the Dems a supermajority with a filibuster-proof, 60-seat Senate.

All he has to do is keep saying ridiculous things. Egypt was founded by aliens! Nuke the whole middle east! Francois Hollande is in league with ISIS! US will sell Alaska back to Russia! Gitmo for anyone who doesn't vote for me! Hillary is a cannibal! Build a moat between Canada and the US! Begin development of Death Star! Breed fire-breathing dragons to defend borders!


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 Ouze wrote:
Yes, he's saying "if he loses Pennsylvania, it was rigged". Meanwhile, HRC is up 10 points in PA.


The poll, like all other polls showing Trump behind, must be skewed.

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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I think he did this whole thing on lark and to get publicity for himself but then somehow to even his own surprise he kept winning.

At this point, I think he wants to piss all over the Republican establishment in D.C. just to show them that he can do it and there's nothing they can do to stop him.


 
   
 
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