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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
BEFORE we get the red text or a thread lock because we went down the rabbit hole of whether or not the Confederate flag is racist, let's move on, shall we?

Hillary's got pneumonia.

Her coughing fits have been going on for months now. Are they suggesting that she's had it since January?

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I don't believe that her health problems begin and end at pneumonia.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
BEFORE we get the red text or a thread lock because we went down the rabbit hole of whether or not the Confederate flag is racist, let's move on, shall we?

Hillary's got pneumonia.

Her coughing fits have been going on for months now. Are they suggesting that she's had it since January?

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I don't believe that her health problems begin and end at pneumonia.

"I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I think it's a conspiracy"

 whembly wrote:

Hillary Clinton was put in positions of power and she either fethed up royally or abused it to her own benefit. We've been over this.

We've also been over the fact that many of her political successes have made her poison to conservative voters, and that's before we touch on the argument relating to her role in healthcare reform.

 whembly wrote:

It's not meaningless. It's incredibly lazy to believe that the conservative movements = the Republican party vs. socialist/leftist movements = the Democrat party.

It is meaningless because the GOP is basically in lockstep with American conservatism.

Think about the candidates you supported before Trump got the nod: Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Both went out of their way to tick all the conservative boxes.

 whembly wrote:

Boring to you maybe... I assure you that its a big fething deal and this retired military veteran KO'ed her...

It's a big deal to people who were never going to vote for her anyway.

 Goliath wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
BEFORE we get the red text or a thread lock because we went down the rabbit hole of whether or not the Confederate flag is racist, let's move on, shall we?

Hillary's got pneumonia.

Her coughing fits have been going on for months now. Are they suggesting that she's had it since January?

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I don't believe that her health problems begin and end at pneumonia.

"I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I think it's a conspiracy"

Thanks for the shallow reply!

Her coughing fits go back to January. There is ample video evidence of this. Do you think a Presidential candidate and career politician, who has access to the best healthcare our nation can provide, was really JUST diagnosed the other day after her health has been in question for months?

It should be clear to anyone with a modicum of critical thinking capability that her health problems do not begin and end with pneumonia. Pneumonia resolves fairly quickly with treatment and rest...it doesn't take months.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Goliath wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
BEFORE we get the red text or a thread lock because we went down the rabbit hole of whether or not the Confederate flag is racist, let's move on, shall we?

Hillary's got pneumonia.

Her coughing fits have been going on for months now. Are they suggesting that she's had it since January?

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I don't believe that her health problems begin and end at pneumonia.

"I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I think it's a conspiracy"

Thanks for the shallow reply!

Her coughing fits go back to January. There is ample video evidence of this. Do you think a Presidential candidate and career politician, who has access to the best healthcare our nation can provide, was really JUST diagnosed the other day after her health has been in question for months?

It should be clear to anyone with a modicum of critical thinking capability that her health problems do not begin and end with pneumonia. Pneumonia resolves fairly quickly with treatment and rest...it doesn't take months.

Good thing we got a real MD on the case and not some guy on an Internet forum for toy soldiers

Good thing we're not being so cavalier over an elderly person's being diagnosed with pneumonia...

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
Pneumonia resolves fairly quickly with treatment and rest...it doesn't take months.

It can actually take months, and she definitely hasn't had the opportunity for rest.

I think it's more that in a thread that has been derailed time and time again (in multiple incarnations) by people frothing at the mouth with "Clinton did this she should be in jail" argumentation, no one is really buying the outpouring of concern.

 LordofHats wrote:
I think it's more that in a thread that has been derailed time and time again (in multiple incarnations) by people frothing at the mouth with "Clinton did this she should be in jail" argumentation, no one is really buying the outpouring of concern.

Oh yeah, it's totally a "She should drop out." argument.

 LordofHats wrote:
I think it's more that in a thread that has been derailed time and time again (in multiple incarnations) by people frothing at the mouth with "Clinton did this she should be in jail" argumentation, no one is really buying the outpouring of concern.

Is this directed at me?

Look, both my g'parents died because of this "simple" pneumonia. My youngest had chronic pneumonia for the first 3 years of this life.

Pneumonia, in various forms, is fething serious. Yes, it's treatable and we have good gak to fight this... but, it'll also kill you if you don't treat it with the attention it deserves.

I don't wish that on anyone.

Now that I think about it, to your subliminal point... If she does drop out, that means Tim Kaine would be the next person up.

...I would seriously have to think about voting for him, over Johnson.

But we all know that she'll never, ever drop out.

It is what it is Whem. You can't spend years (and it has literally been years now) demonizing a woman, and then expect anyone to take your concern over her well being as genuine. People aren't being cavalier about it. They just aren't buying into the concern.

 whembly wrote:
Good thing we're not being so cavalier over an elderly person's being diagnosed with pneumonia...

What calling him out on his inane bs pretending to know more than an actual doctor?

 Ustrello wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Good thing we're not being so cavalier over an elderly person's being diagnosed with pneumonia...

What calling him out on his inane bs pretending to know more than an actual doctor?

I'm not questioning the knowledge of her doctors. Precisely the opposite, if you read my posts instead of posturing like a child.


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 dogma wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
Pneumonia resolves fairly quickly with treatment and rest...it doesn't take months.

It can actually take months, and she definitely hasn't had the opportunity for rest.

So has she had undiagnosed, untreated pneumonia for months? Or was it diagnosed and treated but we simply weren't told about it? This is the problem.

Is it really a problem as long as it's not severe?

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Good thing we're not being so cavalier over an elderly person's being diagnosed with pneumonia...

What calling him out on his inane bs pretending to know more than an actual doctor?

I'm not questioning the knowledge of her doctors. Precisely the opposite, if you read my posts instead of posturing like a child.


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 dogma wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
Pneumonia resolves fairly quickly with treatment and rest...it doesn't take months.

It can actually take months, and she definitely hasn't had the opportunity for rest.

So has she had undiagnosed, untreated pneumonia for months? Or was it diagnosed and treated but we simply weren't told about it? This is the problem.

I did and you said I don't believe in conspiracies but it's a conspiracy, and then tried to say it couldn't of lasted that long while not having a MD

People had coughing fits on air while arguing that her coughing fits were a sign of serious illness. Speaking day after day after day will give you a jacked up throat. It doesn't have to have much of anything to do pneumonia.

I will likely vote for Clinton, but her health is starting too look fishy to me. It is something to consider I personally feel right now. She is infact up there in age and things start to happen around then that can be out of a persons control. Also any American should be aware of how often US politicians lie about their health. I mean look at the guys who became presidents and hid major medical problems.A couple of them have even died from lead poisoning while in office.

Basically, I won't throw this out the window just because the right-wing is fixated on it. I've no party loyalty so I won't be like Trumpettes and be blind to his mental instability nor am a Clintonette (?) and just ignore something like her having health complications.

 dogma wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
Pneumonia resolves fairly quickly with treatment and rest...it doesn't take months.

It can actually take months, and she definitely hasn't had the opportunity for rest.

It can also be fatal, especially in the very young or elderly. With a rigorous schedule, it wouldn't be surprising if the condition started as some sort of minor upper respiratory issue and had gotten worse. The armchair medical conspiracies are both reprehensible and absurd. Once again, the line is clear between conservative posters who dislike HRC, but are willing to preserve their dignity, and the Trumpers (who don't seem so picky) is quite clear.

 djones520 wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:
Meanwhile, the Right-Wingers will keep spreading more rumors about how worse her health got. I won't be surprised to see soon something like "HRC will soon die of pneumonia, vote Trump instead".

It's so predictable, really.

Well... all the "right wingers" here are wishing her the best of health, while you're trying to make political points... so...

Having had pneumonia myself I wish her a speedy recovery.

Ted Cruz is at his hypocritical best...again.
http://www.cnet.com/news/ted-cruz-threatens-government-spending-deadlock-to-protect-the-internet/

Keeping the internet free (because, somehow, only the U.S. uses the internet and nobody else should have any say in it, ever) is pretty rich coming from the jackass that said net neutrality is Obamacare for the internet.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Goliath wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
BEFORE we get the red text or a thread lock because we went down the rabbit hole of whether or not the Confederate flag is racist, let's move on, shall we?

Hillary's got pneumonia.

Her coughing fits have been going on for months now. Are they suggesting that she's had it since January?

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I don't believe that her health problems begin and end at pneumonia.

"I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I think it's a conspiracy"

Thanks for the shallow reply!

Her coughing fits go back to January. There is ample video evidence of this. Do you think a Presidential candidate and career politician, who has access to the best healthcare our nation can provide, was really JUST diagnosed the other day after her health has been in question for months?

It should be clear to anyone with a modicum of critical thinking capability that her health problems do not begin and end with pneumonia. Pneumonia resolves fairly quickly with treatment and rest...it doesn't take months.

She could have had bronchitus for a awhile which turned to pneumonia.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Is it really a problem as long as it's not severe?

I seriously doubt she had pneumonia for that long.

Pneumonia will knock your ass down hard.

It's likely she had some various forms of chest colds/respiratory infections/allergies for that long... and only recently developed pneumonia.

This is the first time in my life I've ever seen Republicans so concerned with a woman's health.

 Ouze wrote:
This is the first time in my life I've ever seen Republicans so concerned with a woman's health.

*rolls eyes*

 Ouze wrote:
This is the first time in my life I've ever seen Republicans so concerned with a woman's health.

:eye rolls: (edit... lol, I swear I didn't see your post djones)

In fairness... this is the first time I've seen a prominent Democrat calling HRC's team out:

Antibiotics can take care of pneumonia. What's the cure for an unhealthy penchant for privacy that repeatedly creates unnecessary problems?

— David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) September 12, 2016

 Ouze wrote:
This is the first time in my life I've ever seen Republicans so concerned with a woman's health.

Well if it is a female baby for the first 9 months they do

 Ustrello wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
This is the first time in my life I've ever seen Republicans so concerned with a woman's health.

Well if it is a female baby for the first 9 months they do

Uh... what?

So, Giuliani really is trying to get into the Trump admin, huh?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/11/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-anything-legal-war


That fact that we have candidates and their surrogates saying we should commit war crimes is disgusting. How have we come to this.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Goliath wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
BEFORE we get the red text or a thread lock because we went down the rabbit hole of whether or not the Confederate flag is racist, let's move on, shall we?

Hillary's got pneumonia.

Her coughing fits have been going on for months now. Are they suggesting that she's had it since January?

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I don't believe that her health problems begin and end at pneumonia.

"I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I think it's a conspiracy"

Thanks for the shallow reply!

Her coughing fits go back to January. There is ample video evidence of this. Do you think a Presidential candidate and career politician, who has access to the best healthcare our nation can provide, was really JUST diagnosed the other day after her health has been in question for months?

It should be clear to anyone with a modicum of critical thinking capability that her health problems do not begin and end with pneumonia. Pneumonia resolves fairly quickly with treatment and rest...it doesn't take months.

I've had coughing fits going back to January. I had a chest X-Ray and a peak flow meter test. They showed completely clear lungs and an exhale volume off the chart. I might catch a cold tomorrow working in the cellars at the wine shop.

If Clinton dies in office the VP gets elevated. That's why you elect him.

What about Trump's mental health?

I mean, it's nice to know he's consistent on something. Now we know for sure what we'd get if he was elected; the first one or two suggestions weren't just a momentary verbal diarrhea, it was full-blown dysentery of the mouth.

Trump/Pence 2016 - the war crimes ticket!