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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:44:27
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Mostly by talking head types like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I've not actually heard it or used it in normal conversation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:47:07
Subject: US Politics
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I will say that many 3rd wave feminists absolutely hate the idea of a Men's Rights Conference. Apparently getting together to talk about issues that effect men is sexist. Issues like male associated diseases, child custody, draconian style alimony in some states, and negative portrayals in media are legitimate male issues.
This doesn't seem to stop feminists from not only protesting these meetings, but also invading them with bullhorns and pulling fire alarms. Afterwards they scream about sexism if they are interrupted talking to the media.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:48:48
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Breotan wrote:
Mostly by talking head types like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I've not actually heard it or used it in normal conversation.
My dad, now deceased, used to use it all the time. He would have been 70 now, so maybe it's gone out of fashion by now, or perhaps my experience is just anecdotal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:51:26
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Breotan wrote:
Mostly by talking head types like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I've not actually heard it or used it in normal conversation.
I have. By a teacher, no less, trying to assure the class that she wasn't one.
cuda1179 wrote:I will say that many 3rd wave feminists absolutely hate the idea of a Men's Rights Conference. Apparently getting together to talk about issues that effect men is sexist. Issues like male associated diseases, child custody, draconian style alimony in some states, and negative portrayals in media are legitimate male issues.
This doesn't seem to stop feminists from not only protesting these meetings, but also invading them with bullhorns and pulling fire alarms. Afterwards they scream about sexism if they are interrupted talking to the media.
The idea of working towards gender equality by addressing discrimination against males certainly isn't sexist in concept; in practice, well...
I'd have to see these incidents you're talking about, because MRA groups in general are hardly a shining beacon of social progress.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:51:43
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Breotan wrote:
Mostly by talking head types like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I've not actually heard it or used it in normal conversation.
It's been used by posters here on the board (and not just in reference to people using it)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:55:18
Subject: Re:US Politics
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LordofHats wrote: Breotan wrote:
Mostly by talking head types like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I've not actually heard it or used it in normal conversation.
It's been used by posters here on the board (and not just in reference to people using it)
This. Just go back and find some of the locked Gamergate threads to see people using it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:57:47
Subject: US Politics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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dogma wrote: sebster wrote:It's a month old but I've only just seen it... this is Anne Coulter having a whinge about the media has reported that Trump said and did things that Trump said and did;
She's still alive? I thought her relevance fizzled out some time ago.
Oh she's alive. Do yourself a favor and watch the Roast of Rob Lowe. She's on the dais, for some reason, and she gets burned pretty bad.
Breotan wrote:
Mostly by talking head types like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I've not actually heard it or used it in normal conversation.
I've used it in jest, and seen it used seriously, on this forum.
In the wider world of the internet, it's included in a collection of buzzwords as a handy way to filter out posters not worth taking seriously. Other words on this list include SJW, sheeple, and libtard/conservatard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:59:26
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Spinner wrote:
The idea of working towards gender equality by addressing discrimination against males certainly isn't sexist in concept; in practice, well...
I'd have to see these incidents you're talking about, because MRA groups in general are hardly a shining beacon of social progress.
This. The issue isn't against the idea that men can talk about issues that effect them, but specifically the MRM (Men's Rights Movement), which is generally a bastion of "woe is us the true victims of society" indignation with no shortage of regular fall backs on really sexist ideas about women. They go right into the same category as your typical Stormfront poster bemoaning the greatest of modern tragedies; the blight of the white man. There are multitudes of reasons not to take it seriously, and to even find the movement absurdist in its current form.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:04:08
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Breotan wrote:
Mostly by talking head types like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I've not actually heard it or used it in normal conversation.
It's used fairly regularly by posters on here. It generally crops up at least once or twice in most feminism threads whenever they occur.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:25:09
Subject: US Politics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've seen several people (not neccessarily on here) seriously argue that the Nazis were liberals...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:32:24
Subject: US Politics
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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cuda1179 wrote:I will say that many 3rd wave feminists absolutely hate the idea of a Men's Rights Conference. Apparently getting together to talk about issues that effect men is sexist. Issues like male associated diseases, child custody, draconian style alimony in some states, and negative portrayals in media are legitimate male issues.
This doesn't seem to stop feminists from not only protesting these meetings, but also invading them with bullhorns and pulling fire alarms. Afterwards they scream about sexism if they are interrupted talking to the media.
Hahahahaha got beaten up by a bunch of girls!!!! Automatically Appended Next Post: Goliath wrote: Breotan wrote:
Mostly by talking head types like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I've not actually heard it or used it in normal conversation.
It's used fairly regularly by posters on here. It generally crops up at least once or twice in most feminism threads whenever they occur.
We have feminism threads here? You're not talking about the quarterly female Spass!marine thread are you? Automatically Appended Next Post: skyth wrote:I've seen several people (not neccessarily on here) seriously argue that the Nazis were liberals...
Reactionary would be a better term but maybe I am OTing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:36:36
Subject: Re:US Politics
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LordofHats wrote: Spinner wrote:
The idea of working towards gender equality by addressing discrimination against males certainly isn't sexist in concept; in practice, well...
I'd have to see these incidents you're talking about, because MRA groups in general are hardly a shining beacon of social progress.
This. The issue isn't against the idea that men can talk about issues that effect them, but specifically the MRM (Men's Rights Movement), which is generally a bastion of "woe is us the true victims of society" indignation with no shortage of regular fall backs on really sexist ideas about women. They go right into the same category as your typical Stormfront poster bemoaning the greatest of modern tragedies; the blight of the white man. There are multitudes of reasons not to take it seriously, and to even find the movement absurdist in its current form.
because it's laughable that men can be victims? and our issues are absurd? that's incredibly sexist of you.
I guess it's true then, only women can be victims, they're professionals at it. Woe be to anyone who points out how absurd they can be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:42:41
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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sirlynchmob wrote:[because it's laughable that men can be victims? and our issues are absurd? that's incredibly sexist of you.
I guess it's true then, only women can be victims, they're professionals at it. Woe be to anyone who points out how absurd they can be.
Wow, it's almost like that response was pre-prepared!
There are a handful of very legitimate men's issues. Off the top of my head, you have the over disciplining of boys in schools, custody/alimony laws, and a presumption of male guilt in a mutually abusive domestic situation. Those are topics that need to be talked about more.
But pretty much every Men's Right's group takes a turn towards "women are the worst" territory. This is why we can't have nice things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:44:01
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Polonius wrote:sirlynchmob wrote:[because it's laughable that men can be victims? and our issues are absurd? that's incredibly sexist of you.
I guess it's true then, only women can be victims, they're professionals at it. Woe be to anyone who points out how absurd they can be.
Wow, it's almost like that response was pre-prepared!
There are a handful of very legitimate men's issues. Off the top of my head, you have the over disciplining of boys in schools, custody/alimony laws, and a presumption of male guilt in a mutually abusive domestic situation. Those are topics that need to be talked about more.
But pretty much every Men's Right's group takes a turn towards "women are the worst" territory. This is why we can't have nice things.
citation needed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:47:04
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Well there was one below this thread but somehow it migrated into this thread. I honestly thought I clicked on the wrong thread at first.
sirlynchmob wrote:because it's laughable that men can be victims? and our issues are absurd? that's incredibly sexist of you.
I guess it's true then, only women can be victims, they're professionals at it. Woe be to anyone who points out how absurd they can be.
I can't tell if this is satire or a great example of misunderstanding.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:49:16
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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Sure...
sirlynchmob wrote:
I guess it's true then, only women can be victims, they're professionals at it. Woe be to anyone who points out how absurd they can be.
...it was right up thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:50:50
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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sirlynchmob wrote:
because it's laughable that men can be victims? and our issues are absurd? that's incredibly sexist of you.
I guess it's true then, only women can be victims, they're professionals at it. Woe be to anyone who points out how absurd they can be.
Do you own one of these t-shirts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:51:58
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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dogma wrote:
Sure...
sirlynchmob wrote:
I guess it's true then, only women can be victims, they're professionals at it. Woe be to anyone who points out how absurd they can be.
...it was right up thread.
well that shows how wrong you are then. I'm not the member of any mens rights groups, let alone all of them. so if that's your only example, we can see how demonstrably wrong polonius statement was.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:52:18
Subject: US Politics
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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cuda1179 wrote:I will say that many 3rd wave feminists absolutely hate the idea of a Men's Rights Conference. Apparently getting together to talk about issues that effect men is sexist. Issues like male associated diseases, child custody, draconian style alimony in some states, and negative portrayals in media are legitimate male issues. All important issues, to be sure. Guys, once you turn 40, start having the doctor check your butt holes for ass cancer. Lost my good friend at 42.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:53:17
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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dogma wrote:
Sure...
sirlynchmob wrote:
I guess it's true then, only women can be victims, they're professionals at it. Woe be to anyone who points out how absurd they can be.
...it was right up thread.
This is why irony is my favorite. Automatically Appended Next Post: sirlynchmob wrote:
because it's laughable that men can be victims? and our issues are absurd? that's incredibly sexist of you.
I said nothing of the sort.
I said that the MRM treats victimhood like a palor game to be won rather than a problem to be addressed, which you've ably demonstrated whether you identify with them or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:56:55
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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sirlynchmob wrote:
well that shows how wrong you are then. I'm not the member of any mens rights groups, let alone all of them. so if that's your only example, we can see how demonstrably wrong polonius statement was.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:59:43
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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sirlynchmob wrote: Polonius wrote:
But pretty much every Men's Right's group takes a turn towards "women are the worst" territory. This is why we can't have nice things.
citation needed
Okay, here's one. The Voice for Men, which put on the Conference for Men alluded to earlier, has a decent breakdown of issues affecting men:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/activism/about/
However, in their editorial and comment policy, they put this at #2:
2.Anti-feminist- AVfM regards feminism as a corrupt, hateful and disingenuous ideology based in female elitism and misandry. And AVfM regards all self proclaimed feminists as agents, unwitting or otherwise, of that hate and corruption.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:00:35
Subject: Re:US Politics
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LordofHats wrote:
I said nothing of the sort.
I said that the MRM treats victimhood like a palor game to be won rather than a problem to be addressed, which you've ably demonstrated whether you identify with them or not.
again citation needed.
All I've seen is the damning of one mens right movement, with no facts, and just a witch hunt towards me, for not buying into that nonsense. If it's ok for men to talk about mens issues, why the unjustified attacks against them for doing so?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:01:36
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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sirlynchmob wrote:If it's ok for men to talk about mens issues, why the unjustified attacks against them for doing so?
Because that's not what's happening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:03:15
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Polonius wrote:sirlynchmob wrote: Polonius wrote:
But pretty much every Men's Right's group takes a turn towards "women are the worst" territory. This is why we can't have nice things.
citation needed
Okay, here's one. The Voice for Men, which put on the Conference for Men alluded to earlier, has a decent breakdown of issues affecting men:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/activism/about/
However, in their editorial and comment policy, they put this at #2:
2.Anti-feminist- AVfM regards feminism as a corrupt, hateful and disingenuous ideology based in female elitism and misandry. And AVfM regards all self proclaimed feminists as agents, unwitting or otherwise, of that hate and corruption.
being anti feminist doesn't equate to "women are the worst" some of their ideas are just downright horrible, look at them blaming facts for being sexist because the facts are against them.
and that's just one group you found, you accused all of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:04:21
Subject: US Politics
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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And, if I could be so bold, I've spent enough time reading some of the MRA stuff, and I find their fear of women oddly appropriate given their idealization of the alpha male.
By their own theories, the problem isn't society, but the fact that they're all a bunch of wimp noodles that can't make their own way.
I'm as feminist as the day is long, and happily married to a woman that likes to cook for me as well as shop for bourbon and cigars. I'm not sure I need the help of the internet MRAs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:05:03
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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You know I went from not playing that game because it's ridiculous, to playing that game because I thought maybe it would improve the quality of discussion, and have decided that my first position was a far less wasteful use of my time.
All I've seen is the damning of one mens right movement, with no facts, and just a witch hunt towards me, for not buying into that nonsense.
"Woe is me, the true victim of the forums!"
If it's ok for men to talk about mens issues, why the unjustified attacks against them for doing so?
It's almost like you're purposefully not reading what people are saying while playing right into everything that people are saying.
Are we being punked? Is this gonna end up on a YouTube channel somewhere with a zingy name like "You've been Dakka'd!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:15:38
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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LordofHats wrote:
You know I went from not playing that game because it's ridiculous, to playing that game because I thought maybe it would improve the quality of discussion, and have decided that my first position was a far less wasteful use of my time.
All I've seen is the damning of one mens right movement, with no facts, and just a witch hunt towards me, for not buying into that nonsense.
"Woe is me, the true victim of the forums!"
If it's ok for men to talk about mens issues, why the unjustified attacks against them for doing so?
It's almost like you're purposefully not reading what people are saying while playing right into everything that people are saying.
Are we being punked? Is this gonna end up on a YouTube channel somewhere with a zingy name like "You've been Dakka'd!"
I've read what you guys have been saying. all mens groups are bad because reasons not proven.
I highlight your irony about how mens groups are claiming to be the victim, when that is the goto response from feminists. Then you guys step up to validate what I wrote.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:16:18
Subject: US Politics
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Battlefield Tourist
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Let's get this thread back on the rails! The VP debate is tonight, what is your prediction?
Like watching paint dry or the grass grow?
Your thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:17:54
Subject: US Politics
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More like watching paint grow or grass dry
Unless Tim Kaine plays his harmonica, that would be a treat
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