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Nah... it's a yahoo who ran onstage while holding a "Republican AGAINST Trump" signage...
He could have been trying to papercut Trump to death. Papercuts from thick card really hurt.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
At no time was the guy anywhere near the stage. Apparently some idiot called "gun" after Trump called the protester out. The SS predictably found no weapon, and the protester was quickly released.
Oh really? Sheesh and Trump claims Clinton has bad health. If Trump is nearly getting assasinated by simply somebody shouting "gun" then his hearth condition must be seriously bad. I mean sure I would get scared if I was making speech and somebody shouted "gun" but I would not be in danger of dying out of that so all I would get is fright but wouldn't be near of getting assasinated.
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
Seems somebody came in with "republicans against Trump" sign. Trump fans were not pleased so started ruffle with him, somebody shouted gun and this followed.
The company that owns the National Enquirer, a backer of Donald Trump, agreed to pay $150,000 to a former Playboy centerfold model for her story of an affair a decade ago with the Republican presidential nominee, but then didn’t publish it, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal and people familiar with the matter.
The tabloid-newspaper publisher reached an agreement in early August with Karen McDougal, the 1998 Playmate of the Year. American Media Inc., which owns the Enquirer, hasn’t published anything about what she has told friends was a consensual romantic relationship she had with Mr. Trump in 2006. At the time, Mr. Trump was married to his current wife, Melania.
Quashing stories that way is known in the tabloid world as “catch and kill.”
In a written statement, the company said it wasn’t buying Ms. McDougal’s story for $150,000, but rather two years’ worth of her fitness columns and magazine covers as well as exclusive life rights to any relationship she has had with a then-married man. “AMI has not paid people to kill damaging stories about Mr. Trump,” the statement said.
Hope Hicks, a Trump campaign spokeswoman, said of the agreement with Ms. McDougal: “We have no knowledge of any of this.” She said that Ms. McDougal’s claim of an affair with Mr. Trump was “totally untrue.”
Ms. McDougal expected her story about Mr. Trump to be published, people familiar with the matter said. American Media didn’t intend to run it, said another person familiar with the matter. Ms. McDougal didn’t return calls for comment.
Mr. Trump and American Media Chairman and Chief Executive Officer David J. Pecker are longtime friends. Since last year, the Enquirer has supported Mr. Trump’s presidential bid, endorsing him and publishing negative articles about some of his opponents.
In a written statement, Mr. Pecker said that it is no secret that he and Mr. Trump are friends and that he greatly admires him. However, he said, the Enquirer under his management “set the agenda” on Mr. Trump’s affair with Marla Maples when he was married to his first wife. “That in itself speaks volumes about our commitment to investigative reporting,” he said.
A contract reviewed by the Journal gave American Media exclusive rights to Ms. McDougal’s story forever, but didn’t obligate the company to publish it and allowed the company to transfer those rights. It barred her from telling her story elsewhere. The company said it also would give her monthly columns to write and would put her on magazine covers.
AMI said in a written statement the company was pleased to hire Ms. McDougal as a columnist.
The tabloid publisher didn’t publish Ms. McDougal’s story of the alleged extramarital affair even after Mr. Trump’s alleged relationships with and comments about women became a campaign issue. In October, the Washington Post published a videotape made by “Access Hollywood” of Mr. Trump, in which he spoke of groping women. Several women subsequently said publicly that he had made unwanted sexual advances.
Mr. Trump has denied their accounts and apologized for his remarks on the tape, calling them locker-room banter.
Ms. McDougal, who continued modeling after appearing in Playboy, told several of her friends she had a relationship for about 10 months with Mr. Trump, beginning in 2006 and lasting into 2007, according to people familiar with her account. Another friend told the Journal that Ms. McDougal’s relationship with Mr. Trump lasted about a year.
A friend of Ms. McDougal’s recalled attending the Miss Universe pageant at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles as a guest of Mr. Trump in 2006. Mr. Trump’s limousine picked up Ms. McDougal and her at Ms. McDougal’s Beverly Hills home, and the two women sat in the front row with Mr. Trump and music producers Quincy Jones and David Foster. Mr. Trump escorted them home, the friend said.
Messages left with representatives for Messrs. Jones and Foster weren’t immediately returned.
In July, Ms. McDougal was in talks with producers at ABC News to tell her story, but she ultimately agreed to the deal with AMI, guided by her lawyer Keith Davidson, according to two people familiar with the discussions.
“I did indeed represent Ms. McDougal and currently represent Ms. McDougal in her negotiations with American Media Inc. to provide services to them,” Mr. Davidson said.
Mr. Davidson also represented Stephanie Clifford, a former adult-film star whose professional name is Stormy Daniels and who was in discussions with ABC’s “Good Morning America” in recent months to publicly disclose what she said was a past relationship with Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the talks. Ms. Clifford cut off contact with the network without telling her story. She didn’t respond to requests for comment.
An ABC spokesperson declined to comment on Ms. McDougal or Ms. Clifford.
The Trump spokeswoman, Ms. Hicks, said it was “absolutely, unequivocally” untrue that Ms. Clifford had a relationship with Mr. Trump.
Mr. Davidson’s work for Ms. McDougal was in connection with “claims against Donald Trump and or assisting client in negotiating a confidentiality agreement and/or life rights related to interactions with Donald Trump and/or negotiating assignment of exclusive press opportunities regarding same,” according to a copy of Mr. Davidson’s agreement to represent her, which was reviewed by the Journal.
The agreement between Ms. McDougal and AMI doesn’t mention Mr. Trump by name, but gives the publisher the rights to “any romantic, personal and/or physical relationship McDougal has ever had with any then-married man.” The document says AMI is entitled to damages of at least $150,000 if she discloses her story elsewhere on social media or gives interviews about it.
Ms. McDougal hasn't appeared in or written for any AMI publications since signing the agreement, according to a person familiar with the matter.
Mr. Trump’s relationship with Mr. Pecker, the chairman of American Media, is well-documented. In the 1990s, when Mr. Pecker was president and chief executive of Hachette Filipacchi Magazines, the publisher put out “Trump Style,” a custom quarterly magazine distributed to guests at Trump properties.
As the presidential race ramped up last year, the Enquirer published a series of columns by Mr. Trump. One began, “I am the only one who can make America great again!” Another was headlined, “Donald Trump: The Man Behind the Legend!”
The tabloid press -- especially the Murdoch owned ones -- do/have done similar things over here at times too.
Quite often the story leaks out or is released eventually but not in all cases t'would seem.
Arkansas-Texas Melted-Cheese War Boils Over
U.S. senators from the two states challenge each other to a ‘taste-off’ after a Wall Street Journal article about cheese dip versus queso
.. worlds only remaining superpower huh ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
reds8n wrote: ... aren't republicans required to carry a firearm at all times ..?
Arkansas-Texas Melted-Cheese War Boils Over
U.S. senators from the two states challenge each other to a ‘taste-off’ after a Wall Street Journal article about cheese dip versus queso
.. worlds only remaining superpower huh ?
It does makes you wonder where all the good guys with guns are. Did they really go someplace and let trump take away their guns?
That's why they're a super power, they're not afraid to handle the real issues.
#teamqueso
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Arkansas-Texas Melted-Cheese War Boils Over
U.S. senators from the two states challenge each other to a ‘taste-off’ after a Wall Street Journal article about cheese dip versus queso
.. worlds only remaining superpower huh ?
Given the hundreds of possible variations of queso, this would be a hard contest to run.
That story requires a login to see, please tell me it's not Ted Cruz involved. I'm supposed to hate the guy, not get reasons to think he may be a somewhat possibly passable human being after all. Especially after that pic of him dressed as the Phantom, as I was just at the Fort Worth showing of it a week ago.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
loki old fart wrote: Wrong. I was another site where they were discussing this video, and that's the only link I could find at the time.
So you were on another site that was talking about a gak story and wasn't talking about it as a gak story, so you went and got a link to the gak story and posted it here. That's probably worse.
Secondly don't stand on your soap box pontificating at me. Save it for someone who gives a feth.
Give a feth. Realise that you're getting played for an idiot by people that lie to you for political gain. How it does not bother you that you're being played for a sucker?
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
n article Wednesday in The Wall Street Journal about Arkansas’ devotion to cheese dip caused long-simmering divisions between that state and Texas to turn hotter than a pot of Velveeta and Ro-Tel.
Arkansans claim ownership of the gooey dip, tracing its roots in the state back to the 1930s. Texans are just as insistent that it is a Tex-Mex staple—and ought to be called queso.
U.S. Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas fired a shot at the U.S. senators from Texas, Ted Cruz and John Cornyn. All three are Republicans.
Mr. Cornyn responded one minute later. (He refrained from referring to Mr. Cotton’s participation in the annual [see forum posting rules] Supper, where the political elite of Arkansas eat raccoon with locals.)
In an interview with the Dallas Morning News, Mr. Cornyn said this about Mr. Cotton: “The idea that a guy from Arkansas would call it cheese dip just shows how much they don’t get it.”
Josh Perry, who manages social media for Mr. Cruz, dimly assessed what he saw as the Journal’s false equivalence by even putting Arkansas and Texas in the same article about queso.
Texas Monthly’s website blared a headline that shows what happens when you mess with Texas: “Queso Does Not Belong To You, Arkansas.”
The San Antonio Express-News wrote: “While Arkansans busy their mouths trying to tell the world they own cheese dip, Texans will be filling theirs with authentic queso.”
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In an email to the Journal, one reader of Wednesday’s article wrote that queso has been a staple on Texas menus since the early 1900s. The reader included a recipe for “Quesadilla Mexicana—Mexican Rarebit” from a 1911 cookbook by Gebhardt Chili Powder Co. (“Use one pound of rich, mild cheese grated...”)
Little Rock, Ark., food writer Kat Robinson, says Texas already has more than its fair share of famous foods. “Sure, queso is on menus in Texas, but it’s not part of the culture the same way it is here. It’s part of our very fabric,” she says.
Duncan Baird, the Arkansas budget administrator, suggested giving cheese dip—not queso—official status.
After French Hill, a Republican congressman from Little Rock, tweeted back at Mr. Cornyn that Arkansas “does have the best queso,” Mr. Cornyn proposed settling the spat once and for all.
At 5:45 a.m. Friday, Mr. Cotton replied: “You’re on!”
Caroline Rabbitt, a spokeswoman for Mr. Cotton, said: “There are a lot of good types of cheese dip out there, but Senator Cotton believes strongly that Arkansas cheese dip is far superior to the ‘queso’ dip preferred by its neighbor to the south. And he’s confident his colleagues will affirm that fact in the coming weeks.”
She added: “We’ve been in touch with Senator Cornyn’s office about initial next steps and hoping to get something together for after the election.” Mr. Cornyn’s press office couldn’t be immediately reached for comment.
At least there's one thing the REpublicans do think has/is melted then eh ?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
loki old fart wrote: Wrong. I was another site where they were discussing this video, and that's the only link I could find at the time.
So you were on another site that was talking about a gak story and wasn't talking about it as a gak story, so you went and got a link to the gak story and posted it here. That's probably worse.
Secondly don't stand on your soap box pontificating at me. Save it for someone who gives a feth.
Give a feth. Realise that you're getting played for an idiot by people that lie to you for political gain. How it does not bother you that you're being played for a sucker?
Calm down, drink a cup of tea.
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
loki old fart wrote: Wrong. I was another site where they were discussing this video, and that's the only link I could find at the time.
So you were on another site that was talking about a gak story and wasn't talking about it as a gak story, so you went and got a link to the gak story and posted it here. That's probably worse.
Secondly don't stand on your soap box pontificating at me. Save it for someone who gives a feth.
Give a feth. Realise that you're getting played for an idiot by people that lie to you for political gain. How it does not bother you that you're being played for a sucker?
Calm down, drink a cup of tea.
Unfortunately for you, Sebster makes a far far more valid point that can't just be handwaved away by "Calm down" or pretending he's overreacting.
You came across a crummy story, believed said story without doing any research into it...and then decided to post it over here on Dakka. When called out for the crummy story, you act as though you're being talked down at.
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I don't think I said I believed it. I do believe it's interesting what people are pushing, due too the election though.
I don't think either should be elected. I think the candidates offered are an insult to the American peoples intelligence.
But hey I'm british.
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
Arkansas-Texas Melted-Cheese War Boils Over
U.S. senators from the two states challenge each other to a ‘taste-off’ after a Wall Street Journal article about cheese dip versus queso
.. worlds only remaining superpower huh ?
Given the hundreds of possible variations of queso, this would be a hard contest to run.
That story requires a login to see, please tell me it's not Ted Cruz involved. I'm supposed to hate the guy, not get reasons to think he may be a somewhat possibly passable human being after all. Especially after that pic of him dressed as the Phantom, as I was just at the Fort Worth showing of it a week ago.
There are chili cook-offs, and there is about a zillion ways to make that. I do think it’s a little odd to be fighting over the historic rights to cheese dip/queso. But I can understand a little good natured cross border state rivalry. And I do love a nice hot melted cheese dish, no mater where it comes from or what you call it.
Kilkrazy wrote: I wonder how Trump's child rape hearing is going to turn out?
There won't be one.
That's really annoying, now we'll never know if she made it up, or trump threatened/paid her off to drop it.
Look at the links I posted earlier. Even left leaning reporters who dislike Trump thought the whole thing was fishy. With all the pro-bono high power attorneys she had for the NY filing, I suspect if she had a decent chance (and remember it was a civil case, not criminal, so burden of proof is a lot easier) then she would not have dropped the case.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
I always loved the videos pointing out how stupid americas youth are.
Well this thread was to serious.
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
So your response to being played for an idiot... is to be glib to one of the people who pointed out that you'd fallen for an obvious lie?
Seriously dude, have some pride. You bought in to a lie from people who have so little respect that they didn't even bother to craft a decent lie. And it's far from the first time its happened to you.
At what point do you decide enough is enough, its pretty clear that you don't care enough about reality to stop you posting that kind of nonsense, but maybe you care enough about your own ego?
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
skyth wrote: I was thinking...The media's desire to paint the election as a close race to bolster ratings actually helps the Democrats.
Republicans are a minority though they tend to be higher motivated than Democrats.
By painting the race as close, that motivates people to vote. It makes people believe that their votes actually matter.
A higher voter turn out helps the Democrats more than Republicans.
There is that factor. Another factor would be that people like being part of a winning team, and don't like turning out for a loser. A race portrayed as a lost cause typically sees a bigger hit to the losing candidate. And that could probably be doubled or tripled for Trump, where many voters are already holding their nose to vote for him - if they believed the race to be lost
But probably the biggest thing to remember when it comes to the media portraying this as a close race - it is a close race. Polls now put Trump within 3 points of Clinton. That's a meaningful lead... but aggregated polls can miss the final result by 3 points. They were wrong in 2012 by 2.7 points, in favour of Obama. If final voting numbers end up 3 points better in Trump's favour then expected and that result is roughly even across the states, then Trump only needs one of a few things to fall his way. Florida and North Carolina will end up close but will go to Trump. And then Nevada, New Hampshire, Colorado and Pennsylvania become coin flips, and Trump only needs the first two, or one of the latter two to drop his way for him to win the presidency.
Clinton is still the favourite, because as any wargamer would know any time you don't need to figure out individual probabilities to know that a whole string of things that have to fall right way, is gonna be less likely than not, but a Trump presidency remains a lot more plausible than most people realise.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
^^^ I agree, and further to that point I think that the American public is much more aware of the impact a presidency can have and how you cannot take anything for granted.
George W Bush's 8 year term was a disaster. Most of the major issues in the current election are based on issues that came out of his administration.
I honestly wish I could say "Well, that's America's problem and it won't affect me" but their decisions have and will deeply affect the Canadian economy.
skyth wrote: I was thinking...The media's desire to paint the election as a close race to bolster ratings actually helps the Democrats.
Republicans are a minority though they tend to be higher motivated than Democrats.
By painting the race as close, that motivates people to vote. It makes people believe that their votes actually matter.
A higher voter turn out helps the Democrats more than Republicans.
There is that factor. Another factor would be that people like being part of a winning team, and don't like turning out for a loser. A race portrayed as a lost cause typically sees a bigger hit to the losing candidate. And that could probably be doubled or tripled for Trump, where many voters are already holding their nose to vote for him - if they believed the race to be lost
But probably the biggest thing to remember when it comes to the media portraying this as a close race - it is a close race. Polls now put Trump within 3 points of Clinton. That's a meaningful lead... but aggregated polls can miss the final result by 3 points. They were wrong in 2012 by 2.7 points, in favour of Obama. If final voting numbers end up 3 points better in Trump's favour then expected and that result is roughly even across the states, then Trump only needs one of a few things to fall his way. Florida and North Carolina will end up close but will go to Trump. And then Nevada, New Hampshire, Colorado and Pennsylvania become coin flips, and Trump only needs the first two, or one of the latter two to drop his way for him to win the presidency.
Clinton is still the favourite, because as any wargamer would know any time you don't need to figure out individual probabilities to know that a whole string of things that have to fall right way, is gonna be less likely than not, but a Trump presidency remains a lot more plausible than most people realise.
According to 538 only Nevada is in trumps circle right now and its only by a percent or two. Combine that with the fact that Nevada Democrats came out in force in early voting I don't see those last four going to trump.
skyth wrote: I was thinking...The media's desire to paint the election as a close race to bolster ratings actually helps the Democrats.
Republicans are a minority though they tend to be higher motivated than Democrats.
By painting the race as close, that motivates people to vote. It makes people believe that their votes actually matter.
A higher voter turn out helps the Democrats more than Republicans.
Nah, that's what they said about Brexit, and the rest is history.
'Shy' Brexit supporters, who sat on the fence, said nothing, and did their talking in the privacy of the voting booth were a big factor IMO.
A person who worked at my polling station told me there were people voting who hadn't been seen for years at any election.
I can assure you that the same thing will happen on Tuesday. 'Shy' Trump supporters, keeping quiet, sitting on the fence, and slipping under the radar of the polling companies.
These are people who haven't voted for years, but will be out on Tuesday, because like our Brexit vote, they will think that for the first time in a long time, their vote may actually be worth a damn....
Clinton should be careful of this....
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