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2016/12/17 02:45:18
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote: Automatically Appended Next Post:  CptJake wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:Presumably people are too rapt in the latest Kardashian story, or who is winning Dancing With The Stars. To get back to serious topic, it seems to me that the states that are very keen on states' rights are generally the more right wing states. Is this correct?
I don't know, California is the sate currently threatening to leave the union. They right wing?
I think threatening is a pretty strong word for an action almost no Californians want to take. By that logic, California is threatening to open a chain of marijuana ice cream parlors, based on that group of stoners who won't shut up.
Will the initiative make their next ballot? Seems likely with the way the campaign for it is going. So yes, threatening is a valid description. If it is soundly defeated you'll have a point.
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2016/12/17 02:48:30
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I was surpised to see one-headed bear in their flag  accustomed, he double-headed
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 The Lost and Damned
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2016/12/17 03:31:27
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
On a surly Warboar, leading the Waaagh!
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 whembly wrote: djones520 wrote: BigWaaagh wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if this whole issue with China's seizure of the underwater, scientific drone is simply a measured, physical response to Trump and his Taiwan overtures. They're just saying "Hi, this area is ours." to our new POTUS-elect.
It's a continuation of their "this is our AOR" game that they've been playing the last 5 years. China has been stepping up the provocation with us in that region for a while now. It's not all Trump's fault.
I'm going to say it...
When Obama was elected... anything bad was Bush's fault.
When Obama was re-elected... anything bad was either Bush's fault or Congressional Republican's fault...
When Obama leaves office... it'll be Trump's fault.
Now, now, ladies. Don't get your conservative panties in a bunch.  Nobody is pointing partisan fingers, but merely making an observation as to the fact that China...and others, to be sure...are soon, or now, going to begin testing the NKOTB. China saw a benign means to respond to Trump's Taiwanese overtures and took it, methinks. Now just turn down the defense mechanisms and have a beer for God's sake.
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2016/12/17 03:38:32
Subject: US Politics
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Kilkrazy wrote:
To get back to serious topic, it seems to me that the states that are very keen on states' rights are generally the more right wing states. Is this correct?
California and Washington State bang on that drum too...
Colorado (pot laws) as well.
Interestingly, we really don't hear that much from the northeast states....
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2016/12/17 03:42:28
Subject: US Politics
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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That's just because we tend to be subtler about it.
Here in NY, we actually have medical marijuana, and were one of the states to legalize gay marriage. You don't hear about it because we didn't make a fuss about it.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
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2016/12/17 03:45:57
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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CptJake wrote:
Will the initiative make their next ballot? Seems likely with the way the campaign for it is going. So yes, threatening is a valid description. If it is soundly defeated you'll have a point.
Huh. I hadn't been following it. How many signatures does it need?
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2016/12/17 03:46:51
Subject: US Politics
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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 Co'tor Shas wrote:That's just because we tend to be subtler about it. Here in NY, we actually have medical marijuana, and were one of the states to legalize gay marriage. You don't hear about it because we didn't make a fuss about it.
Yeah I believe that. Point being KK... each state can be REALLY different. 
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2016/12/17 05:57:05
Subject: US Politics
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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whembly wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:
To get back to serious topic, it seems to me that the states that are very keen on states' rights are generally the more right wing states. Is this correct?
California and Washington State bang on that drum too...
Colorado (pot laws) as well.
Interestingly, we really don't hear that much from the northeast states....
Other than the two northeast states where it is legal? Yeah, never hear from them. Totally nailed it.
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2016/12/17 08:11:10
Subject: US Politics
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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CptJake wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:Presumably people are too rapt in the latest Kardashian story, or who is winning Dancing With The Stars. To get back to serious topic, it seems to me that the states that are very keen on states' rights are generally the more right wing states. Is this correct?
I don't know, California is the sate currently threatening to leave the union. They right wing?
One swallow does not a summer make.
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2016/12/17 11:33:04
Subject: Re:US Politics
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2016/12/17 14:43:40
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
On a surly Warboar, leading the Waaagh!
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 reds8n wrote:http://www.npr.org/2016/12/15/505577680/advanced-black-lung-cases-surge-in-appalachia
Truly dreadful state of affairs, those poor people.
Coal mining is a tragedy on several levels. If only we had available, abundant, cleaner energy options that offered professional fields where people could find jobs and careers that don't kill them a little every day instead...*just shakes head*
80,000 +/- total coal miner jobs in US, over 500,000 clean energy jobs in California alone. Reality can be harsh, but in the end, is reality nonetheless.
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2016/12/17 14:53:02
Subject: US Politics
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Maybe if Clinton offered training for new career fields for coal workers she wouldn't have lost...
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2016/12/17 15:06:03
Subject: US Politics
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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 d-usa wrote:Maybe if Clinton offered training for new career fields for coal workers she wouldn't have lost...
That was sarcasm, right? I haven't had enough caffeine yet this morning, so I just wanted to be sure.
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One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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2016/12/17 15:06:37
Subject: US Politics
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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And hey, at least now Trump can get rid of those pesky regulations which inhibit the free market, such as health and safety regulations which have tried to prevent these kinds of things.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
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2016/12/17 16:03:59
Subject: US Politics
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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 A Town Called Malus wrote:And hey, at least now Trump can get rid of those pesky regulations which inhibit the free market, such as health and safety regulations which have tried to prevent these kinds of things.
I don't think that those are the regulations he is after, but who knows with Trump.
I do believe that regulatory capture is a serious problem and inhibits business and anything which could help pull down those hurdles would be great.
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2016/12/17 18:26:16
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
On a surly Warboar, leading the Waaagh!
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2016/12/17 18:28:46
Subject: Re:US Politics
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Heh...
What's hysterical is that evidently, his phone spellcheck allowed "Unpresidented".
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2016/12/17 18:32:58
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
On a surly Warboar, leading the Waaagh!
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whembly wrote:
Heh...
What's hysterical is that evidently, his phone spellcheck allowed "Unpresidented".
But, of course!
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2016/12/17 19:03:20
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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whembly wrote:
Heh...
What's hysterical is that evidently, his phone spellcheck allowed "Unpresidented".
I'd be careful guys, we don't want to misunderestimate him.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
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2016/12/17 19:34:43
Subject: Re:US Politics
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Well... sure...
Drumpf has proven me wrong so far...
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2016/12/17 20:35:51
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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whembly wrote:
Heh...
What's hysterical is that evidently, his phone spellcheck allowed "Unpresidented".
Technically speaking it is a word XD
Just not the one he was looking for.
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2016/12/17 20:48:48
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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whembly wrote:
Heh...
What's hysterical is that evidently, his phone spellcheck allowed "Unpresidented".
Which means he's used the word before and told his phone to add it to his dictionary? 
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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2016/12/17 20:52:28
Subject: US Politics
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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I wonder what kind of phone he uses. This could be sabatage from Siri or Cortana.
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2016/12/17 22:08:47
Subject: Re:US Politics
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Unpresidented.
I guess it's a new word.
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Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
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2016/12/17 22:32:29
Subject: US Politics
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Fresh-Faced New User
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 Supertony51 wrote: A Town Called Malus wrote:And hey, at least now Trump can get rid of those pesky regulations which inhibit the free market, such as health and safety regulations which have tried to prevent these kinds of things.
I don't think that those are the regulations he is after, but who knows with Trump.
I do believe that regulatory capture is a serious problem and inhibits business and anything which could help pull down those hurdles would be great.
Regulatory capture is when a regulatory agency is controlled by the sector it is supposed to be regulating
Regulations are needed because of externalities. For every ton of coal burned, there are quantifiable damages to public health. If regulations weren't a thing, there would be an enormous "tragedy of the commons" problem in the US.
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2016/12/17 22:56:00
Subject: US Politics
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Fixture of Dakka
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An even more enormous "tragedy of the commons" problem in the US, you mean. :p
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2016/12/17 22:56:34
Subject: US Politics
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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AngryElfIgnoresLOS wrote:If regulations weren't a thing, there would be an enormous "tragedy of the commons" problem in the US.
*Looks at Flint Michiagon*
*Gary, Indiana*
*Fort Berthold, North Dakota*
*Lemont, Illinois*
*The entire coal industry, which violates the Clean Water Act as a matter of course and is fined for millions of dollars roughly twice a decade*
*Notices that's just some of the cases at the top of the EPA's civil suit list*
Yes.
Would be
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2016/12/17 23:05:55
Subject: US Politics
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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 Dreadwinter wrote:I wonder what kind of phone he uses. This could be sabatage from Siri or Cortana.
It's been assumed that tweets that come from an iPhone are often done by his staff (either in his name or something he's dictated to them) and tweets that come from an Android device are his personal tweets, written by his own hand.
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 d-usa wrote:"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
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2016/12/18 00:55:03
Subject: US Politics
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Fresh-Faced New User
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 LordofHats wrote:AngryElfIgnoresLOS wrote:If regulations weren't a thing, there would be an enormous "tragedy of the commons" problem in the US.
*Looks at Flint Michiagon*
*Gary, Indiana*
*Fort Berthold, North Dakota*
*Lemont, Illinois*
*The entire coal industry, which violates the Clean Water Act as a matter of course and is fined for millions of dollars roughly twice a decade*
*Notices that's just some of the cases at the top of the EPA's civil suit list*
Yes.
Would be
Yep. Sure would be a shame if they were deregulated even more.
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2016/12/18 10:17:16
Subject: US Politics
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Interestingly enough, supporters of nuclear power make the valid argument that coal-burning power stations release more radioactive isotopes into the atmosphere than nuclear power stations.
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