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 n0t_u wrote:
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At this point you just need to grit your teeth and bare with it. GDub is obviously fixated solely on making the Space Marines the main attraction by essentially having them murder everything out of existence. If you have any hopes for another faction getting any semblance of spotlight, I wouldn't cling to them too tightly. Eventually, Space Marines won't have much character depth beyond who they murdered in the goriest fashion while other races simply fade away, their purpose being lose to inferior sales.

As for the laughing god, I honestly wouldn't put it past them to completely forget about him and leave him just there... Some clown faced god who isn't acknowledged. Otherwise, I suspect the Black Library will be stripped clean in the wake of Ahriman's attack when more Space Marines arrive to foil him, as well.

Kinda feels like they did this to squash the God of the dead theory, but I was always more inclined to believe the joke is slaneesh needs the eldar alive to continue to exsist. So at the last moment instead of destroying them allows them to live. mind blown. chaos rules broken. Cegorach lols.

 Blitzen the Solitaire wrote:

Trystis wrote:

 Inevitable_Faith wrote:
Cegorachs jest intrigues me, it could lead into something very interesting in the future.

Likewise the "jest" could be just that. Here's a prophecy that I'll half-tell, you guys have to fill in the blanks and figure the rest. So while craftworlders and Harlies alike scramble to decipher the prophecy and find out their place in it Cegorach sits back, cracks open a cold one and laughs to himself knowing the truth. There is no plan and he just made up the prophecy on a whim all so he could catch the the Eldar dance. I highly doubt this interpretation but it has a sense of cruel irony to it that I find appealing.

Honestly, this is completely possible. I doubt this is the direction they'll go, but the potential is definitely there. Like I said Cegorach is not a nice God. For example not all of the masques have the same goals. The Masque of the Shattered Mirage believes the elder race is doomed and want to do as much damage to the rest of the galaxy as possible before they die off, they couldn't care less about chaos.

I think the harlequins are way too precise for that. There's too many examples of them playing dumb the whole time but knew the ending all along. They wouldn't be laughing if they weren't in on the joke.
As for the masques, I thought they were made out to embody the roles they play in the performances. If they are performing the role of someone with that mentality(being doomed etc) they live it to its fullest. The Solitaire seems to be the best example of this. He lives the role that he plays


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I'm not seeing a connection that Eldrads Plan is Cegorach's plan in its entirety, so I'm not the least bit worried about the Eldar surviving despite these events.

Cegorach will have the last laugh and I assure you it will be a performance like no other

The codex paints a different picture than you are suggesting. If you read the masque description not all of the masques are particularly very precise, some are some are not.The harlequins essentially play roles in a play, but they are not in the know about what the play is about.

Considering only a small number of Harlequins were involved and the rest prioritised the Black Library do we even know that Cegorach himself was taking an interest in this side expedition? If he so wished I imagine the Harlequins (and likely the Craftworld Eldar as well) would have aided Eldrad en masse.

I'll be interested to see where they go with the follow up instalment of this. it appears to have made the Eldar's desperate situation more desperate and made their one remote hope a bit more remote. I can see where they might go with this to generate new opportunities for the Eldar- the pursuit of soul fragments from the shattered moon. Ynnead becoming a presence in the physical universe/webway- could lead the wraith units being seen as servants of Ynnead within Craftworld forces. I definitely see the Laughing God involved in this -especially as Eldrad slipped up. I never thought it would work out as a full rebirth of Ynnead and this partial one is intriguing.

I was led to believe that this was some kind of small, 'renegade' group of Harlequins who decided to follow Eldrad?

 Benny Badmen wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
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At this point you just need to grit your teeth and bare with it. GDub is obviously fixated solely on making the Space Marines the main attraction by essentially having them murder everything out of existence. If you have any hopes for another faction getting any semblance of spotlight, I wouldn't cling to them too tightly. Eventually, Space Marines won't have much character depth beyond who they murdered in the goriest fashion while other races simply fade away, their purpose being lose to inferior sales.

As for the laughing god, I honestly wouldn't put it past them to completely forget about him and leave him just there... Some clown faced god who isn't acknowledged. Otherwise, I suspect the Black Library will be stripped clean in the wake of Ahriman's attack when more Space Marines arrive to foil him, as well.

Marines have been in the spotlight like that for a long long time and something I don't mind but like to poke at sometimes. I kind of like the idea of papa smurf being able to punch everything to death and go with the text to speech device stuff for headcanon so as the winning stuff he actually is tired of and no one likes sicarius.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Yes, their first run ins with the DarkEldar and Necrons were as naive civilians/earth caste opening their doors for the new races and getting reminded why this setting is grim dark.

...............coming from the guy who plays ultramarines? The brightly coloured legomen mary sues that ACTUALLY win virtually everything?

Mental Surge wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Yes, their first run ins with the DarkEldar and Necrons were as naive civilians/earth caste opening their doors for the new races and getting reminded why this setting is grim dark.

...............coming from the guy who plays ultramarines? The brightly coloured legomen mary sues that ACTUALLY win virtually everything?

I see you are new here.

Something important to remember is that 1d4chan memes are not the same thing as the actual lore.

 Ashiraya wrote:

Mental Surge wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Yes, their first run ins with the DarkEldar and Necrons were as naive civilians/earth caste opening their doors for the new races and getting reminded why this setting is grim dark.

...............coming from the guy who plays ultramarines? The brightly coloured legomen mary sues that ACTUALLY win virtually everything?

I see you are new here.

Something important to remember is that 1d4chan memes are not the same thing as the actual lore.

Me being new (to posting I might add, for all you know I have been lurking here for years) is irreverent. Someone who plays ultramarines should not be bitching about such a thing. The ultramarines are the definition of a mary sue. Not to mention they are essentially a amry sue of a mary sue. The space marines themselves are already stupid as hell from a writing stand point(and imo from a design standpoint as they look like blocky legomen), but the ultramarines are even worse.

Not to mention me being 'new' here does not change the lore or how utterly focused it is on SPASS MARINZ when there's so much more potential in all the other factions. But nope, let's just focus on the legomen.