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I think some of order and chaos could reasonably get siphoned into destruction. Like skaven amd beastmen for chaos, as both despise the chaos gods and in the skaven case have their own. For oder, the fyreslayer dwarves who are only out for profit could reasonably be destruction as well. Death seems to be the oddball alliance as its so small and niche.

I take it you haven't checked the lore for Skaven, considering The Great Horned Rat has plopped himself down in Slaanesh's old spot, Skaven have made a full home for themselves in the realms of Chaos (and thanks to their tunneling, everywhere else), and beastmen still are chaotic followers of the Chaos gods (7th book being the only outlier on lore) they've even brought back the marked beastmen with the Tzaangors.

And Fyreslayers don't really just want to destroy, so them being Destruction is odd since they still help order, but anyone else with Ur-gold.. Maybe we need a straight 'Neutral' section.

I think they should just add Keywords.

Beastmen, Skaven and a few monsters of Chaos could easily have the Destruction Keyword added to their warscrolls.

Same goes for Trolls and Ogors having chaos added to theirs. Not every warscroll, just a few basic line units.

Even certain undead could be Nurgle or vice versa.

 DeffDred wrote:
I think they should just add Keywords.

Beastmen, Skaven and a few monsters of Chaos could easily have the Destruction Keyword added to their warscrolls.

Same goes for Trolls and Ogors having chaos added to theirs. Not every warscroll, just a few basic line units.

Even certain undead could be Nurgle or vice versa.

Making cross-faction units just opens up a whole other can of worms. They could potentially do it, but I think it's more likely they'll do what they did with Gargants - there's a Destruction Gargant and a Chaos Gargant. Both have the same statline and abilities (I think), but they're separate because it's much cleaner that way. A Destruction variety of Beastmen is possible, but in the lore they're all just worshippers of Chaos now, though that could change.

The Nurgle keyword doesn't just mean "gross, icky", it means worshippers of Nurgle. And no undead worship Nurgle.

And even then, why would Skaven be destruction? They don't worship Gork and Mork, they aren't just worshippers of killing and destruction.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
I take it you haven't checked the lore for Skaven, considering The Great Horned Rat has plopped himself down in Slaanesh's old spot, Skaven have made a full home for themselves in the realms of Chaos (and thanks to their tunneling, everywhere else), and beastmen still are chaotic followers of the Chaos gods (7th book being the only outlier on lore) they've even brought back the marked beastmen with the Tzaangors.

And Fyreslayers don't really just want to destroy, so them being Destruction is odd since they still help order, but anyone else with Ur-gold.. Maybe we need a straight 'Neutral' section.

You are missing the point. Yes the great horned rat has forced his way into the pantheon, but they still hate him and vice versa. Similar to the way the beastmen hate and fear the chaos gods. Skaven and beastmen are outliers as they are neither devout followers of the original chaos gods nor demons of them.

The rest of chaos do serve the original chaos gods and seek to further that cause, like order seeks to eradicate chaos. Skaven and beastmen care nothing for that goal. Skaven want to conquer everything and beastmen aren't much different than greenskins besides their fur and fear of chaos gods.

Destruction is the neutral faction. Greenskinz and ogors are neither good nor evil, they are just natural phenomenon.


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Requizen wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:
I think they should just add Keywords.

Beastmen, Skaven and a few monsters of Chaos could easily have the Destruction Keyword added to their warscrolls.

Same goes for Trolls and Ogors having chaos added to theirs. Not every warscroll, just a few basic line units.

Even certain undead could be Nurgle or vice versa.

Making cross-faction units just opens up a whole other can of worms. They could potentially do it, but I think it's more likely they'll do what they did with Gargants - there's a Destruction Gargant and a Chaos Gargant. Both have the same statline and abilities (I think), but they're separate because it's much cleaner that way. A Destruction variety of Beastmen is possible, but in the lore they're all just worshippers of Chaos now, though that could change.

The Nurgle keyword doesn't just mean "gross, icky", it means worshippers of Nurgle. And no undead worship Nurgle.

To be fair skaven pestilens have nurgle keyword and they do not worship nurgle anymore.



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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
And even then, why would Skaven be destruction? They don't worship Gork and Mork, they aren't just worshippers of killing and destruction.

Destruction is neutral. It doesn't mean they have to worship gorkamorka. Remember them describing destruction as a force of nature? Ironically in a lot of the skaven lore regarding the conquest of the dwarven realms the skaven are compared to a river weathering away rock with their endless numbers.