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 skyth wrote:
Considering that sitting on the ground with your arms in the air didn't prevent someone else from being shot...

Yes, never ever let that be forgotten.

 skyth wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
, just like not putting your hands in the air when cops are pointing guns at you adds to the confusion.
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Considering that sitting on the ground with your arms in the air didn't prevent someone else from being shot...

And that's a specific circumstance unique to that situation for which evidence should not be used to judge the officer in this situation.

Seriously guys, we aren't saying "cops can do no wrong". Any shooting by police should be investigated and if the cop found in the wrong they should be punished. And maybe the investigation system needs reform, I am not familiar with it to know, but I do know cops do get found to be in the wrong on occasion so it's obviously not COMPLETELY flawed, but even if it is flawed it doesn't make trial by media and uneducated trolls the correct course of action.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 skyth wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
, just like not putting your hands in the air when cops are pointing guns at you adds to the confusion.
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Considering that sitting on the ground with your arms in the air didn't prevent someone else from being shot...

And that's a specific circumstance unique to that situation for which evidence should not be used to judge the officer in this situation.

Seriously guys, we aren't saying "cops can do no wrong". Any shooting by police should be investigated and if the cop found in the wrong they should be punished. And maybe the investigation system needs reform, I am not familiar with it to know, but I do know cops do get found to be in the wrong on occasion so it's obviously not COMPLETELY flawed, but even if it is flawed it doesn't make trial by media and uneducated trolls the correct course of action.

Actually, if you have a system that is not working as intended then trial by media is exactly what you need as it highlights the problems which can otherwise be swept under the rug.

To argue otherwise is to say that the media was wrong to apply pressure on the UK government to launch an inquiry into the Hillsborough disaster, or the Iraq War, or Watergate. Without the press doing its thing and putting out information which could be construed as putting those involved on trial then many scandals wouldn't have been revealed.

The problem is the media is not being objective or truthful in most situations. Take the title of this thread. It is neither factual nor objective.

The media sees a story, takes the interesting parts(the parts that sell or gain views) and they run with it. Truth is not necessarily the end goal, although sometimes that does happen on accident.

If the media could be trusted to tell all stories without bias, be factual, conducting truth and fact finding inquiries, and include a little less opinion then maybe just maybe trial by media wouldn't even be a thing. It would simply be media exposes truth.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Actually, if you have a system that is not working as intended then trial by media is exactly what you need as it highlights the problems which can otherwise be swept under the rug.

As redleger said....

 redleger wrote:
The problem is the media is not being objective or truthful in most situations. Take the title of this thread. It is neither factual nor objective.

When it comes to cops shooting people the media are, in short, fething morons. I even see on Australian programs them misrepresenting statistics from the US. As someone said earlier in this thread,"Only videos of US cops i see are violent", it's not because US cops are only violent.

Sure, the media can be great to shine light on certain stories, but more often than not they're just trying to get viewers and page hits and are willing to drag peoples' names through the mud.

A family friend had someone make up a story about his business which was taken to the media and they ran a completely incorrect "exposition" on it. They redacted the statements at a later date when they found accusations were incorrect and he threatened legal action, but no one remembers the small redaction, they remember the big flashy piece dragging the guy's name and business through the mud.

If there's one thing I don't have much respect for it's the idea of an objective and informative media.