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Alright, so Konrad tried multiple times to kill Vulkan and none of his attempts succeeded due to the fact that Vulkan is a regenerating perpetual.

Why didn't Konrad just fire him into a star?

It doesn't matter if you regenerate if you're stuck on the surface of a star. Vulkan would only regenerate and return billions of years later when the star dies.
Even then, he'd probably still be dying again and again depending on how the star dies -
Black hole? GL regenerating Vulkan.
White Dwarf? GL regenerating Vulkan (a white dwarf is still thousands of degrees celcius).
Supernova? Maybe it blasts Vulkan away but then he's still in space, dying over and over from vacuum exposure.

It just seems like the obvious thing to do with Vulkan if you want him gone.

He did eject Vulkan into the vacuum of space once, iirc. Not sure what happened after that but he was clearly fine eventually. Not sure if that would have any effect on your idea or not.

Why not just shoot Vulkan into the massive black hole in the center of the galaxy? Probably because the Black Library doesn't want to remove Vulkan as a player for the rest of setting. So instead they make Konrad, a primarch (which makes him a super genius despite being insane), look like an idiot.

 KharnsRightHand wrote:
He did eject Vulkan into the vacuum of space once, iirc. Not sure what happened after that but he was clearly fine eventually. Not sure if that would have any effect on your idea or not.

Didn't he appear back on the ship with that one? I think I read that happened, but if that's the case why wouldn't he simply "respawn" on a nearby planet?

A lot of what Curze did was purely for the mental, emotional, and physical torture that he wanted to inflict on Vulkan - to test the absolute limits of his mind and body, to inflict despair and hopelessness, and then to play his game of killing him a thousand different ways. Did Curze REALLY want to kill Vulkan, as in, was that his primary goal? I really don't think so.

Remember Curze is a precog, he knows what will happen, that is the major reason why he's gone mad. He does what he does out of necessity; he tries to change the future via butterfly effect but to no avail.

'I know what you intend for me father.' I think Curze hurt Vulkan to forge him even more stronger in the mind. Vulkan is too kind in Curze's mind. When Curze was captured after trying to kill Dorn, they passed him to Vulkan so that he may rehabilitate him. By that time half the legion have turned. I hope he's not really dead, and that there is yet another chapter for him.

 chalkobob wrote:
Why not just shoot Vulkan into the massive black hole in the center of the galaxy? Probably because the Black Library doesn't want to remove Vulkan as a player for the rest of setting. So instead they make Konrad, a primarch (which makes him a super genius despite being insane), look like an idiot.

The powers that regenerate Vulkan would have done the same thing they did to him while under Kurze's care. Removed him from the situation eventually. That's how Vulkan ended up on Ultramar.

 Big Mac wrote:
Remember Curze is a precog, he knows what will happen, that is the major reason why he's gone mad. He does what he does out of necessity; he tries to change the future via butterfly effect but to no avail.

'I know what you intend for me father.' I think Curze hurt Vulkan to forge him even more stronger in the mind. Vulkan is too kind in Curze's mind. When Curze was captured after trying to kill Dorn, they passed him to Vulkan so that he may rehabilitate him. By that time half the legion have turned. I hope he's not really dead, and that there is yet another chapter for him.

Like say Vulkan showing up in The Beast Arises series?

Curze wasn't trying to kill Vulkan after the first few times, he was just torturing him

Konrad tied Vulkan in front of his ships engines.

Vulkan was disintegrated.

But then was found intact on Konrads ship.

I hate this perpetual bullgak. I could accept the Emperor being one - hell it would even be extremely ironic and grimdark if he was because if he had been allowed to die, he would have simply regenerated but has instead been stuck on the throne for 10k years.

 Otto Weston wrote:
I hate this perpetual bullgak. I could accept the Emperor being one - hell it would even be extremely ironic and grimdark if he was because if he had been allowed to die, he would have simply regenerated but has instead been stuck on the throne for 10k years.

I'm convinced they're going somewhere with the perpetual thing..

 Otto Weston wrote:
I hate this perpetual bullgak. I could accept the Emperor being one - hell it would even be extremely ironic and grimdark if he was because if he had been allowed to die, he would have simply regenerated but has instead been stuck on the throne for 10k years.

Stuck on throne because he wanted to...

It's not like he was stuck there against his will since he gave instructions how to set the thing up to sustain him in the first place!

Actual i have always wondered, how does perpetualism work in 40k? If you say were one and got your head blown off, does it just grow back? Or does your body just disappear and you pop outta the warp or something good as new.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Actual i have always wondered, how does perpetualism work in 40k? If you say were one and got your head blown off, does it just grow back? Or does your body just disappear and you pop outta the warp or something good as new.

Varies. With Vulkan, I've only heard second hand, but in some cases he healed, in others his limbs/head grew back, on another he was distintegrated via spaceship engine and "respawned" like in a FPS game back on the ship good as new.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Actual i have always wondered, how does perpetualism work in 40k? If you say were one and got your head blown off, does it just grow back? Or does your body just disappear and you pop outta the warp or something good as new.

Chops and changes.
Some need to get alien help.
Some go the high lander route. Im not dead if you dont take my head.
Some possibly get reborn as babies.
Or like Vulkan, reincarnate somewhere and plummet from space to the ground and turn up were the plot needs them.
Or they follow a physical link, like a hammer or something.

 Otto Weston wrote:
Alright, so Konrad tried multiple times to kill Vulkan and none of his attempts succeeded due to the fact that Vulkan is a regenerating perpetual.

Why didn't Konrad just fire him into a star?

It doesn't matter if you regenerate if you're stuck on the surface of a star. Vulkan would only regenerate and return billions of years later when the star dies.
Even then, he'd probably still be dying again and again depending on how the star dies -
Black hole? GL regenerating Vulkan.
White Dwarf? GL regenerating Vulkan (a white dwarf is still thousands of degrees celcius).
Supernova? Maybe it blasts Vulkan away but then he's still in space, dying over and over from vacuum exposure.

It just seems like the obvious thing to do with Vulkan if you want him gone.

Why didn't Gandalf just have the eagles deliver the ring to Mount Doom?

Because then the story would suck and be super short.

 kronk wrote:


Why didn't Gandalf just have the eagles deliver the ring to Mount Doom?

Because then the story would suck and be super short.

Something about mordors AA capability comes to mind. Eagle mounted ring would be seen and intercepted fast. Quite a gamble that you will win ensuing air combat.

Konrad did kill Vulkan by disintegration. From then on when we see Vulkan he is the changeling.

 kronk wrote:

Why didn't Gandalf just have the eagles deliver the ring to Mount Doom?

Because then the story would suck and be super short.

Because he couldn't command them? They weren't his underlings.