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 dan2026 wrote:
Going to be 3 weeks of GS Cult minis?

There is no way they wont release the Abberants right?

The week 3 releases are:

Armoured Claw: Cadian Squad & Chimera
Cult Leman Russ

Both come with an upgrade sprue

 Mymearan wrote:


Aberrants aren't in the WD so there's basically no chance they'll release them.

I'm wondering if GW are waiting to see how well GSC's sell before putting out an Aberrant kit. Until then they can always flog the Overkill units sprue just like the Cassius / Broodcoven box.

How would you build a 1500pts unit?
I am seriously thinking how many hybrid I needed.

Tyranid607 wrote:
How would you build a 1500pts unit?
I am seriously thinking how many hybrid I needed.

Purestrain 'stealers are not only a solid choice, they're incredibly cheap to find 2nd-hand since they've been around forever. I haven't even assembled all the ones I've picked up over the years...

If you're wanting the Cult Insurrection then Imperial Guard tanks and infantry are also fairly cheap on the 2nd-hand market too

They like to keep something unique in the big boxed sets. It why the deathkoptas, the chosen and the aos characters have not been released separately. I still think the week three release list is looking mighty thin. The new format white dwarf with its mixture of new and old releases is still in its infancy. They could be holding something back to surprise people.

Any chance someone with the book could post the pages on the Metamorphs, the 'Neophyte Hybrids and the Acolyte Hybrids?

I am interested in the points and their wargear.

Also do Abberants with the picks and hammers cost the same?

Was just looking through the P&M showcase threads and a couple had me thinking, you could easily use the GSC rules for a "Rats in Space" Skaven 40k army.

Neophytes = Clan Rats
Hybrids = Stormvermin
Abominations = Rat Ogres
Purestrain = Eshin Assassins
Broodlord = Verminlord (or master assassin if you want to attach to purestrains)
Magus = Grey Seer
Primus = Warlord
Heavy Weapon Teams = Skaven Weapon Teams
etc. etc.

Last White Dwarf did not mention the second Dark Crusade book Angel's Blade and the Blood Angel releases. Although I got the same impression that there won't be an Aberrant kit from the photos we have seen, there is at least the possibility of more GSC boxes, or just a re-release of the monopose Aberrants like the DV Chaos Cultists got. As Chikout already mentioned the new-format WD seems not to offer insight into all new releases of a month.

At first I was gonna get 1 or 2 of the dreamforge games apc for my genestealers, but after seeing that truck I think I like that more for the genestealers, seems to be a great fit. But, I still need an excuse to buy the dreamforge apc one of these days.

So, I was thinking of picking up Deathwatch Overkill to get started, and try and sell the marines and/or game boards and stuff and just keep the genestealer minis. So with those contents, what else besides the truck is coming out? The icon guy? Are there enough troops in DW Overkill, or will I need another box or 2 of guys? Already have plenty of genestealers from my alienids

Overkill gives you 12 acolytes and 16 neophytes and 4 aberrants, enough to run just 1 unit of neophytes or aberrants and 2 of acolytes. If you have the means I would recommend getting at least one other set of the cult somehow, then bolstering your minis with the multi part boxes that are coming out.

for $29 you can get a box of 10 cadians, and using the extra heads from the neophytes multi kit you can make 10 more infantry about $1 cheaper per.

So what version of the Leman Russ is best for this army? I'm magnetizing the one i picked up sunday so i can swap the turrets but I think a tank hunter (Vanquisher, lascannon, sponson multi-meltas) would help crack open transports for my cultists to spill into with lasguns or laspistols and rending claws etc.

My guess for Aberrants is that they had a limited amount of kits they could release for the Genestealer Cult release slot, so something had to go and it was Aberrants. They aren't core troops and they have miniatures available in Overkill so I could see why they would prioritize other boxes over them. My guess is they have an Aberrant box sculpted and ready to go which will be released at a later date.

Tyranid607 wrote:
How would you build a 1500pts unit?
I am seriously thinking how many hybrid I needed.

Cult Insurrection - 1500

Command - Magus - (ML2) - 65

First Curse - 20x Purestrains (no upgrades) + 1x Patriarch (ML2, 2x Familiars) - 405

Brood Cycle - 1x Iconward - 40 (??) pts
3x units of neophytes - 12x models each, 10 lasguns, 1 grenade launcher, 1 mining laser - 240
2x units of acolytes - 10x models each - 140
1x unit of metamorphs - 10x models - ~110 pts
1x unit of aberrants - 6x models (3 pick , 3 hammer) - 180
1x unit of purestrains - 8x models - 112

Brood Brothers - 1x Leman Russ (Vanquisher, multi-melta sponsons, hull mounted lascannon) -165

That's where I'm at right now, so far that list comes to 1417, leaving 83 to play with at 1500. Without the book in hand to go over all the options and wargear, and without my metamorph kits to build and equip out how i want them (using tyranid bits to customize when necessary), that is likely to change. But it's a good starting point.

36 neophytes (i have 54 from overkill so i can and will probably add more in lists than i put above)
20 acolytes (I have 36 from overkill, so again i can buff the squads up or add more)
10 metamorphs (i don't have any yet - that's what i'll be making with the new kits)
28 purestrains (i have ~100...i started playing nids when stealers were amazing)
6 aberrants (i own 12. could throw another unit in there if i had the points, or maybe just 2 more models in the brood cycle)


There are TONS of options, especially when you consider adding in tyranids or astra militarum as an ally detachment or CAD.

 tetrisphreak wrote:

3x units of neophytes - 12x models each, 10 lasguns, 1 grenade launcher, 1 mining laser - 240
2x units of acolytes - 10x models each - 140

Brood Cycle is the other way around mind; 2 Neophytes and 3 Acolytes.

Anyone with just one Overkill set will need 2 Acolyte boxes to cover the extra squad plus metamorphs.

 tetrisphreak wrote:

So what version of the Leman Russ is best for this army?

Do we have a definitive list of which variants / upgrades are available for the Russ yet?

We need confirmation for rending claws having AP 3 in the new codex... anybody confirms?

Any chance of collecting all the leaked info to the first post ?

KurtAngle2 wrote:
We need confirmation for rending claws having AP 3 in the new codex... anybody confirms?

Rending claws are unchanged, but the Patriarch gets a special version which are AP3 / Shred / Rending.

 xttz wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

3x units of neophytes - 12x models each, 10 lasguns, 1 grenade launcher, 1 mining laser - 240
2x units of acolytes - 10x models each - 140

Brood Cycle is the other way around mind; 2 Neophytes and 3 Acolytes.

Anyone with just one Overkill set will need 2 Acolyte boxes to cover the extra squad plus metamorphs.

 tetrisphreak wrote:

So what version of the Leman Russ is best for this army?

Do we have a definitive list of which variants / upgrades are available for the Russ yet?

Oh okay again i'm going from what's been posted here so mistakes were expected. Makes sense that the brood cycle would have more acolytes - they're the older generations with more genestealer DNA.

As far as the russ variants - according to the summary sheet that was lifted from the BOLs Video, there are profiles for the Battle Cannon, Vanquisher cannon, Eradicator cannon (i thought that thing ignored cover but the summary doesn't say so), and the Exterminator (4 shot twin linked autocannon). These are the 4 turrets you can build from the basic leman russ box. It does not contain the Demolisher, Executioner, or Punisher variants from the LR Demolisher kit.

 Mymearan wrote:
My guess for Aberrants is that they had a limited amount of kits they could release for the Genestealer Cult release slot, so something had to go and it was Aberrants. They aren't core troops and they have miniatures available in Overkill so I could see why they would prioritize other boxes over them. My guess is they have an Aberrant box sculpted and ready to go which will be released at a later date.

Good point

so what changes have stealers got then people? thanks

This is awesome.

Innsmouth Cult ready to go!

 Formosa wrote:
so what changes have stealers got then people? thanks

Besides one more attack and a 5++ invulnerable save now at the same cost?

Thing is, Tyranid codex can't use those stealers.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
As far as the russ variants - according to the summary sheet that was lifted from the BOLs Video, there are profiles for the Battle Cannon, Vanquisher cannon, Eradicator cannon (i thought that thing ignored cover but the summary doesn't say so), and the Exterminator (4 shot twin linked autocannon). These are the 4 turrets you can build from the basic leman russ box. It does not contain the Demolisher, Executioner, or Punisher variants from the LR Demolisher kit.

Eradicators ignore cover in the AM codex, so it's probably a misprint.

As for which Russ variant to use, it probably depends how you're going to deploy it. That Cavalcade formation that gives it Outflank would work well with sponsons and a non-ordnance turret, whereas if it just starts in the backfield you probably want a battlecannon and no sponsons.

Personally I'm just going to magnetise it like all my Nids.

 xttz wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
As far as the russ variants - according to the summary sheet that was lifted from the BOLs Video, there are profiles for the Battle Cannon, Vanquisher cannon, Eradicator cannon (i thought that thing ignored cover but the summary doesn't say so), and the Exterminator (4 shot twin linked autocannon). These are the 4 turrets you can build from the basic leman russ box. It does not contain the Demolisher, Executioner, or Punisher variants from the LR Demolisher kit.

Eradicators ignore cover in the AM codex, so it's probably a misprint.

As for which Russ variant to use, it probably depends how you're going to deploy it. That Cavalcade formation that gives it Outflank would work well with sponsons and a non-ordnance turret, whereas if it just starts in the backfield you probably want a battlecannon and no sponsons.

Personally I'm just going to magnetise it like all my Nids.

Same. But the first one I think I'll try out is the vanquisher

 xttz wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
As far as the russ variants - according to the summary sheet that was lifted from the BOLs Video, there are profiles for the Battle Cannon, Vanquisher cannon, Eradicator cannon (i thought that thing ignored cover but the summary doesn't say so), and the Exterminator (4 shot twin linked autocannon). These are the 4 turrets you can build from the basic leman russ box. It does not contain the Demolisher, Executioner, or Punisher variants from the LR Demolisher kit.

Eradicators ignore cover in the AM codex, so it's probably a misprint.

As for which Russ variant to use, it probably depends how you're going to deploy it. That Cavalcade formation that gives it Outflank would work well with sponsons and a non-ordnance turret, whereas if it just starts in the backfield you probably want a battlecannon and no sponsons.

Personally I'm just going to magnetise it like all my Nids.

Exterminator with multi-melta sponsons is my general purpose tank... tack on the lascannon if you have the points to spare. The exterminator cannon helps with AA duty, plus it's a very efficient platform for taking out enemy transports and even heavier tanks if necessary, AV14 duty is delegated to all of the mining CCWs.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Overkill gives you 12 acolytes and 16 neophytes and 4 aberrants, enough to run just 1 unit of neophytes or aberrants and 2 of acolytes. If you have the means I would recommend getting at least one other set of the cult somehow, then bolstering your minis with the multi part boxes that are coming out.

for $29 you can get a box of 10 cadians, and using the extra heads from the neophytes multi kit you can make 10 more infantry about $1 cheaper per.

So what version of the Leman Russ is best for this army? I'm magnetizing the one i picked up sunday so i can swap the turrets but I think a tank hunter (Vanquisher, lascannon, sponson multi-meltas) would help crack open transports for my cultists to spill into with lasguns or laspistols and rending claws etc.

If you don't need special weapons/are okay with monopose, GW was selling 5 man Cadian squads for $10 each.
In case that helps.

Hey so does the patriarch have the hyper reflexes rule like the purestrains for the 5++ save?

No. Even though bred from purestrain Genestealers, apparently he's not pure enough. Or maybe too big and slow. Pick an excuse.

 N.I.B. wrote:
No. Even though bred from purestrain Genestealers, apparently he's not pure enough. Or maybe too big and slow. Pick an excuse.

Ok. It's really fine - auto pass look out sir and even in challenges means he won't be required to save as much plus getting back d6 purestrains when popping around with cult ambush will help too.

I'm not sure if it's been stated anywhere because I've seen 2 versions. 10 man min for Acolytes or 5,

Can I get clarification?

Thank you

S.Y.

Anyone know which page of this thread here has the bulk of the Decurion/rules etc?

I have TONS of Tyranids-and-Genestealers ...1 box of Deathwatch:Overkill, and single Chimera, and a single Leman Russ tank.

Can I build a working army with just that stuff?

 Gunzhard wrote:
Anyone know which page of this thread here has the bulk of the Decurion/rules etc?

I have TONS of Tyranids-and-Genestealers ...1 box of Deathwatch:Overkill, and single Chimera, and a single Leman Russ tank.

Can I build a working army with just that stuff?

Yeah, just run a CAD with your 3 troops = 2 units of six acolytes and 1 unit of 16 neophytes, bring both hybrid HQs, then bring a First Curse formation with Patriarch and 20 Purestrains if you have spare stealers.

From what we've seen, this Decurion is a "nice, but not necessary to play the faction." Obsec on models that can pop up super close to enemies and steal objectives is about equivalent to the D6 casualties resurrected, particularly if you're running few units.