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2016/09/20 19:56:16
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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738 points for 9 warriors with all upgrades, and the fairly nonsensical loadout of 2 pairs of boneswords + lashwhips. But that's the best 'nids can do.
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2016/09/20 20:14:13
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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 Scott-S6 wrote:nekooni wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:
That's not a single unit, it's a veteran squad and a corvus. Without a transport it tops out at 870, with it tops out at 1111.
A kill team (using the various kill team formations) can be a single unit of infinite size if we're allowing non-troops units. If we're sticking to a single troop unit then so far it's crisis suit squad at 943.
I thougt Kill Teams were limited to ten models? I guess will have to check the Codex once i geht back home.
That's a veteran squad. A kill team is a formation consisting of unlimited choices that form a single unit.
 Robin5t wrote:I'm willing to branch out into other army roles to see if any other units at all can beat the Elysian Platoon. Anyone got any ideas?
If it doesn't need to be troops then Deathwatch win with an infinite size kill team.
Wrong and wrong. The Kill Team explicitly allows only ten models. The Kill Team Special Rule spells this out clearly.
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 5250 pts
 3850 pts
Deathwatch: 1500 pts
Imperial Knights: 375 pts
30K  2500 pts |
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2016/09/20 20:15:15
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Lord of the Fleet
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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:nekooni wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:
That's not a single unit, it's a veteran squad and a corvus. Without a transport it tops out at 870, with it tops out at 1111.
A kill team (using the various kill team formations) can be a single unit of infinite size if we're allowing non-troops units. If we're sticking to a single troop unit then so far it's crisis suit squad at 943.
I thougt Kill Teams were limited to ten models? I guess will have to check the Codex once i geht back home.
That's a veteran squad. A kill team is a formation consisting of unlimited choices that form a single unit.
Robin5t wrote:I'm willing to branch out into other army roles to see if any other units at all can beat the Elysian Platoon. Anyone got any ideas?
If it doesn't need to be troops then Deathwatch win with an infinite size kill team.
What infinite size Killteam? Every formation has a limit, be it 10 man max or 4 Killteams for the Company.
Absolutely right - ignore me on the infinite kill team nonsense.
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2016/09/20 20:28:33
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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 Galef wrote:What is the most expensive Troop WITHOUT a bunch of useless upgrades and that consists of only 1 unit?
10 GK Terminators with 2 Psycannons and a few Hammers/Halberds, maybe?
Out of my romp through 30k looking for hilariously expensive units I'd say Medusan Immortals and Phalanx Warders would be the most effective.
And ten GK Terminators is hilariously inefficient. Pumping 150+ extra points into things that don't give you more Mastery levels may be the definition of a 'useless upgrade'.
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2016/09/30 01:42:59
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Raging Ravener
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Scott-S6 wrote:
Deathwatch can do a unit of infinite size but it's via a formation so not technically a troop unit.
What DW formation can be infinite?
I'm looking in the codex, but I can't see any formations that can be infinite.
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2016/09/30 11:33:27
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Emperors hammer b****
Edit: Is the green tide a Troop choice or a formation? If it's a Troop choice it wins with transports. I seriously doubt any other foc choice hits 4k+ in the entire game.
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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. |
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2016/09/30 15:50:06
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Renegades and Heretics.
A: Renegade Ogryn Brutes (Troop choice with shock legion taskmaster) - 10 brutes with upgrades and 6 hounds is 855pt.
B: Renegade Infantry Platoon (Master of the Horde HQ) - 2275pt. That is 5 squads in the platoon, maxed out on upgrades they can take.
For a troop unit that is stupid expensive without crazy upgrades, My vote is the ogryn brutes. Their upgrades are a power drill, pack master, armor, and the hounds. All of which are useful upgrades. Base, they are 60pt a head, which is utterly insane. They also suck, big time, that power drill, so you could argue that the unit itself is a useless upgrade...
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2016/10/01 04:14:08
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Dakka Veteran
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I came up with a total of 792 for some really maxed out Possessed for Chaos Marines. A 20 man squad with mark of nurgle and icon of vengeance, and for some reason a rhino with all the chaos upgrades.
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2016/10/01 04:47:34
Subject: Re:What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Astra Militarum Platoon - Plenty of useless / inefficient upgrades
140 - Platoon Command Squad: Plasma Pistol, Power Fist, Meltabombs, 4x Plasmagun, Krak Grenades
140 - Infantry Squad: Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Meltabombs, Vox Caster, Missile Launcher / Flak, Plasmagun, Krak Grenades
140 - Infantry Squad: Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Meltabombs, Vox Caster, Missile Launcher / Flak, Plasmagun, Krak Grenades
140 - Infantry Squad: Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Meltabombs, Vox Caster, Missile Launcher / Flak, Plasmagun, Krak Grenades
140 - Infantry Squad: Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Meltabombs, Vox Caster, Missile Launcher / Flak, Plasmagun, Krak Grenades
140 - Infantry Squad: Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Meltabombs, Vox Caster, Missile Launcher / Flak, Plasmagun, Krak Grenades
123 - Heavy Weapon Squad: 3x Missile Launcher / Flak, Krak Grenades
123 - Heavy Weapon Squad: 3x Missile Launcher / Flak, Krak Grenades
123 - Heavy Weapon Squad: 3x Missile Launcher / Flak, Krak Grenades
123 - Heavy Weapon Squad: 3x Missile Launcher / Flak, Krak Grenades
123 - Heavy Weapon Squad: 3x Missile Launcher / Flak, Krak Grenades
96 - Special Weapon Squad: 3x Demolition Charge, Krak Grenades
96 - Special Weapon Squad: 3x Demolition Charge, Krak Grenades
96 - Special Weapon Squad: 3x Demolition Charge, Krak Grenades
150 - 50x Conscripts
1893 - Infantry Total
954 - 6x Chimera Dedicated Transports with all Upgrades @ 159 each
2847 - Grand Total For Most Expensive AM Platoon
[700 pts for single combined infantry squad unit]
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2016/10/02 16:05:21
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Elysians still win, having the same calculations as greatbigtree's above, but with Valkyrie DTs instead of Chimeras.
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2016/10/02 23:38:19
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
In Warp Transit to next battlefield location, Destination Unknown
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 Unit1126PLL wrote:Elysians still win, having the same calculations as greatbigtree's above, but with Valkyrie DTs instead of Chimeras.
Can you list that?
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 Cowards will be shot! Survivors will be shot again!
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2016/10/02 23:58:13
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If you count the Green Tide, 300 Shoota Boyz in one unit before other upgrades is 2100 points. With 'eavy armour, they clock in at 3300. With upgraded guns, they get up to 3450. Add the Boss Nobs in and you get up to 3550, then Bosspoles for 3600, then Kombi-Skorchas for 3700 and finally Power Klaws for 3950. Oh, and let's not forget the Trukks! 10 Trukks adds on for 4250, then each of those can add a whopping 60 points of upgrades per model, adding up to a grand total of... 4850 points!
Because Orks. 
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2016/10/03 01:50:41
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Not sure if it's been said yet, but I remember in the 5th edition Grey Knights codex Kaldor Draigo made paladins troops. A fully kitted out unit of them with a transport could definitely push a grand, don't have the book on me rn for specifics
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 angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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2016/10/03 05:33:49
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Maxed out DEldar warriors, with all upgrades and a fully upgraded Raider is 414.
Not that big :(
A fully kitted out Archon with fully kitted out court of the archon (with fully kitted out DT"s) reaches 725 points, and that's the highest I can think of for DEldar
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2016/10/03 07:35:18
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Elysians actually max out at 4'355 if you go for pure points (IA3.2).
Not near the most efficient choice though, and still loses out to the Greentide.
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My $0.02, which since 1992 has rounded to nothing. Take with salt.
 Elysian Drop Troops,  Dark Angels, 30K
Mercenaries, Retribution
Ten Thunders, Neverborn
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2016/10/04 00:36:08
Subject: What is the most expensive troop choice possible in the game?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Farseer Anath'lan wrote:Elysians actually max out at 4'355 if you go for pure points ( IA3.2).
Not near the most efficient choice though, and still loses out to the Greentide.
Green Tide is a Formation, not a troops choice. And no, it's not efficient, which I don't think was a criterion for answering the question.
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