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I'm surely in the minority here but I really enjoyed painting my Dreadfleet. It could be worse than a reboot of that (or Man-o-War)... But I assume that it will most likely be the Prospero box.

SKR.HH wrote:
I'm surely in the minority here but I really enjoyed painting my Dreadfleet. It could be worse than a reboot of that (or Man-o-War)... But I assume that it will most likely be the Prospero box.

The Prospero box is probably gonna come out some time in October or early November, as its in the November WD (which comes out in October). And Blood Bowl, according to the blood bowl team at the European open day today, is meant to be a December release. So I dunno what this is.

Maybe it's really just a local thing?

 ImAGeek wrote:

SKR.HH wrote:
I'm surely in the minority here but I really enjoyed painting my Dreadfleet. It could be worse than a reboot of that (or Man-o-War)... But I assume that it will most likely be the Prospero box.

The Prospero box is probably gonna come out some time in October or early November, as its in the November WD (which comes out in October). And Blood Bowl, according to the blood bowl team at the European open day today, is meant to be a December release. So I dunno what this is.

It's 25th November. That's close enough.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

SKR.HH wrote:
I'm surely in the minority here but I really enjoyed painting my Dreadfleet. It could be worse than a reboot of that (or Man-o-War)... But I assume that it will most likely be the Prospero box.

The Prospero box is probably gonna come out some time in October or early November, as its in the November WD (which comes out in October). And Blood Bowl, according to the blood bowl team at the European open day today, is meant to be a December release. So I dunno what this is.

It's 25th November. That's close enough.

Yeah. Although they said they hope it'll be a December release, which implies it might be later.

That's precisely 4 weeks before Christmas Eve, as it's really the 26th, even one week later (assuming they stick to the only release stuff on Saturday model) at that time of year is an eternity.

SKR.HH wrote:
Maybe it's really just a local thing?

yes probably, i overheard the manager of my local gw talking about this topic

so could be anything, but no global midnight release sadly

Prospero is late october sayeth the rumors

 VeteranNoob wrote:
Prospero is late october. I'm 100% certain of this.

Halfway through according to my local GW employees

NivlacSupreme wrote:

 VeteranNoob wrote:
Prospero is late october. I'm 100% certain of this.

Halfway through according to my local GW employees

Did they say preorder, or release. Because a preorder date of Oct 15 (mid-october) and release of 22 Oct could be described as either "halfway through" or "late October", depending on one's point of view.

Either way, next time I go out I'm pulling the requisite cash from the bank and putting it aside for a couple (or more) boxes.

He just said "coming out halfway through this month"

FINECAST RELAUNCH!
ONLY THIS TIME ITS NOT !!!!

The triumphant return of Finemetal(TM) to replace Finecast, only 30% more expensive!

Maybe it will be that new terminator chaplain and captain released on their store for one day.

I think BL may just have given it away
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/blood-bowl-boxed-set.html

(Blood Bowl boxed set of books on 28 Nov)

Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

GreenOak wrote:
I think BL may just have given it away
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/blood-bowl-boxed-set.html

(Blood Bowl boxed set of books on 28 Nov)

I think you are on to something there. The page is now gone.

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

Davor wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

Keeping the 40K background relatively static for 30 years and not advancing the timeline has nothing to do with 40K being in a mess now. Arguably, that's in fact the only reason so many people still cling to the system despite gameplay being increasingly horrible and unfun for all involved.

Not giving a crap about the quality of the rules for at least the last 20 years or so and having the game get progressively worse when that time and all those editions could instead have been used to fine-tune the system; that's what has made 40K into a mess.

BigDaddio wrote:

GreenOak wrote:
I think BL may just have given it away
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/blood-bowl-boxed-set.html

(Blood Bowl boxed set of books on 28 Nov)

I think you are on to something there. The page is now gone.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:deJXzqcUlicJ:www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/blood-bowl-boxed-set.html+&cd=1&hl=es&ct=clnk&gl=es

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1211

Zywus wrote:

Davor wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

Keeping the 40K background relatively static for 30 years and not advancing the timeline has nothing to do with 40K being in a mess now. Arguably, that's in fact the only reason so many people still cling to the system despite gameplay being increasingly horrible and unfun for all involved.

Not giving a crap about the quality of the rules for at least the last 20 years or so and having the game get progressively worse when that time and all those editions could instead have been used to fine-tune the system; that's what has made 40K into a mess.

I disagree. With not improving the time line and keeping it the same old same old, it made GW stale, lazy and unimaginative and no reason to improve. If not making new fluff or advancing the time line or even going back in time adding new fluff that way , gave no reason for GW to be creative and innovative in making new editions. Keep the fluff the same, just needed to be lazy making new "editions". Reason editions is in quotes is basically we are still playing third edition with upgraded rules, not really a new edition like from Rogue Trader to second edition to third edition.

So now advancing the story lines or by adding in new fluff is making 40K better. After all GW did go back in time now with 30K and it seemed for a lot of people to improve the game. Only if GW done this sooner the mess wouldn't be here as it is now.

 Ghaz wrote:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1211

Thanks for that link, Ghaz. I might actually get that set when it comes out (already had and read the paperbacks, but most were stolen with a bunch of other gaming stuff...grumble grumble....)

Davor wrote:

Zywus wrote:

Davor wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

Keeping the 40K background relatively static for 30 years and not advancing the timeline has nothing to do with 40K being in a mess now. Arguably, that's in fact the only reason so many people still cling to the system despite gameplay being increasingly horrible and unfun for all involved.

Not giving a crap about the quality of the rules for at least the last 20 years or so and having the game get progressively worse when that time and all those editions could instead have been used to fine-tune the system; that's what has made 40K into a mess.

I disagree. With not improving the time line and keeping it the same old same old, it made GW stale, lazy and unimaginative and no reason to improve. If not making new fluff or advancing the time line or even going back in time adding new fluff that way , gave no reason for GW to be creative and innovative in making new editions. Keep the fluff the same, just needed to be lazy making new "editions". Reason editions is in quotes is basically we are still playing third edition with upgraded rules, not really a new edition like from Rogue Trader to second edition to third edition.

So now advancing the story lines or by adding in new fluff is making 40K better. After all GW did go back in time now with 30K and it seemed for a lot of people to improve the game. Only if GW done this sooner the mess wouldn't be here as it is now.

You can't make that claim though. It's no guarantee that advancing the timeline will make 40k better and there's no guarantee that new fluff equates to better rules. The "staleness" of the setting has no bearing on the quality of the rules. Correlation does not equal causation.

Davor wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

The fluff has absolutely nothing to do with the current state of the game. Let's be fair, the end times is only going to happen because they've already turned it up to 11 and nobody has a better idea than to turn it up to 12.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Davor wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

The fluff has absolutely nothing to do with the current state of the game. Let's be fair, the end times is only going to happen because they've already turned it up to 11 and nobody has a better idea than to turn it up to 12.

I am not saying the fluff is the problem. I am talking about the laziness and work ethic of GW is the problem. Look what they did in 30 years. Not much. If they took more effort in the fluff, I am sure the rules would have improved so much. What is it, 6th edition or was it 5th edition that the golden toilet stopped working and that was the fluff advancement. So if that is the quality GW could do with the fluff, no wonder the rules are a mess as they are.

Just look what GW did with 30K. Instead of moving the fluff forward, they went backwards as I suggested. From what I read on the net, people are saying it's great quality work there and the rules are so much more fun as well. I guess it's Forge World doing, but shows you when you put the effort into adding new fluff, the rules are good as well.

Again they don't need to advance the story, there is over 10 000 years and other races of stories that can be told instead of the view of man or imperium all the time. They could even do the wars on Terra/Earth, then do stories on the exploration (sorry keep forgetting the name it's called) and flesh those eras out. But GW doesn't and take the lazy way in their fluff which in my opinion is lazy writing in their rules.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Davor wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

The fluff has absolutely nothing to do with the current state of the game. Let's be fair, the end times is only going to happen because they've already turned it up to 11 and nobody has a better idea than to turn it up to 12.

Exactly. And the claim that advancing the fluff is letting them do new things that make 40K better is hilarious, given the stuff they've been doing recently that everyone has liked have been shameless, blatant dips into the company's own past output(Mechanicus, Heresy, GSCult) none of which need or benefit from a timeline advance.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

Davor wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

The fluff has absolutely nothing to do with the current state of the game. Let's be fair, the end times is only going to happen because they've already turned it up to 11 and nobody has a better idea than to turn it up to 12.

Exactly. And the claim that advancing the fluff is letting them do new things that make 40K better is hilarious, given the stuff they've been doing recently that everyone has liked have been shameless, blatant dips into the company's own past output(Mechanicus, Heresy, GSCult) none of which need or benefit from a timeline advance.

Yup its almost like a changing of the old guard especially Merritt is letting them do this stuff and they for the most part are knocking it out of the park...except for price...but that's another topic

Davor wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!

Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.

Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.

Amen. It absolutely needs to move forward. This is how we got the Tau, etc...