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Crazyterran wrote:It's been the End Times for 40k since about 1980.
If you are going to try and make someone look foolish, please at least get your facts properly.
Fair, me not looking up the release date of Rogue Trader is about as foolish (if not a little less so) as the doom saying, complaining, and other assorted negative terms that are attached to anything people mention about a '40k end times'.
You know, since technically, the 40k setting has been in the 'Time of Ending' since the beginning.
Of course, you won't be bothered to actually acknowledge any unnecessary doom and gloom on your part, will you? Just attack the more irrelevant part of my post. Typical.
Thing is, I am not doom saying. Why wouldn't you even consider when I said End Times, with a capital E and T I didn't mean it as advancing the story? I have made the mistake many times assuming and got myself into trouble and made an arse out of myself.
Wasn't the story in Fantasy called End Times and that is why I said it that way. I should have explained it more and guess I assumed again people would have understood what I meant.
So couldn't this just be a story like that. No way am I saying this is the end for 40K, that 40K will be scrapped or be changed into something else and be changed. All I am is asking is this like a story event? Something major and something so unexpected from GW that an event like this advancing the story so Hugely, it deserved a midnight store opening to celebrate an major even with their customers and make it special.
Did they do a midnight release for Nagash? I have honestly no idea in that regard, as I didn't have a fantasy army until after the End Times in the fantasy sense hit. (I got a little burned by starting an empire army with lots of Knights...)
Though, I suppose if anything 40k deserves a midnight release, it would be a daemon primarch. And it would fit other people previously saying Blood Bowl would be next year...
But the good money seems to be on this release being Blood Bowl, which in the other BB thread mentioned they got production running quicker than expected.
If I was GW, I would release Magnus near Christmas, as kids will have spending money after, adults will be shopping for gifts before (for family or for themselves :p), and Fenris Part two when snow is on the ground and it's the time of year where's Logan Grimnar gets on his sleigh to deliver presents to all the loyal sons and daughters of the Emperor... seems fitting.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Crazyterran wrote:It's been the End Times for 40k since about 1980.
If you are going to try and make someone look foolish, please at least get your facts properly.
Fair, me not looking up the release date of Rogue Trader is about as foolish (if not a little less so) as the doom saying, complaining, and other assorted negative terms that are attached to anything people mention about a '40k end times'.
You know, since technically, the 40k setting has been in the 'Time of Ending' since the beginning.
Of course, you won't be bothered to actually acknowledge any unnecessary doom and gloom on your part, will you? Just attack the more irrelevant part of my post. Typical.
Thing is, I am not doom saying. Why wouldn't you even consider when I said End Times, with a capital E and T I didn't mean it as advancing the story? I have made the mistake many times assuming and got myself into trouble and made an arse out of myself.
Wasn't the story in Fantasy called End Times and that is why I said it that way. I should have explained it more and guess I assumed again people would have understood what I meant.
So couldn't this just be a story like that. No way am I saying this is the end for 40K, that 40K will be scrapped or be changed into something else and be changed. All I am is asking is this like a story event? Something major and something so unexpected from GW that an event like this advancing the story so Hugely, it deserved a midnight store opening to celebrate an major even with their customers and make it special.
Did they do a midnight release for Nagash? I have honestly no idea in that regard, as I didn't have a fantasy army until after the End Times in the fantasy sense hit. (I got a little burned by starting an empire army with lots of Knights...)
Though, I suppose if anything 40k deserves a midnight release, it would be a daemon primarch. And it would fit other people previously saying Blood Bowl would be next year...
But the good money seems to be on this release being Blood Bowl, which in the other BB thread mentioned they got production running quicker than expected.
If I was GW, I would release Magnus near Christmas, as kids will have spending money after, adults will be shopping for gifts before (for family or for themselves :p), and Fenris Part two when snow is on the ground and it's the time of year where's Logan Grimnar gets on his sleigh to deliver presents to all the loyal sons and daughters of the Emperor... seems fitting.
I don't recall if they did or not. I don't think so. Thing is, this is a different or "supposedly" different GW now, so who knows what it can be. If it's about Blood Bowl, I will be disappointed. I can't see why they would go all out or make a big event, or big deal out of a specialist game like Blood Bowl. I am not saying that Blood Bowl doesn't deserve this, but I would think something like advancing the story of 40K when it has been almost steady for 30 years to be deserving such a grand release.
One way or the other, we can say at least these are "exciting times" with GW now because we don't know what they are going to do, and for 2016 have been actually pretty excited in what they do again. So for me at least seeing this "mid night opening" or Mid night release" of something should be spectacular. I would have to drive 1 hour away just for a Blood Bowl though and was hoping it would be something more "grander" than that.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
I honestly don't see the point in midnight releases. Is anything really worth going to the shops in the middle of the night for, when you could go there at a reasonable hour the next day and still get the same thing?
General Kroll wrote: I honestly don't see the point in midnight releases. Is anything really worth going to the shops in the middle of the night for, when you could go there at a reasonable hour the next day and still get the same thing?
I've never seen the appeal.
Maybe I'm just a miserable old git.
That is why I thought it would be so lacklustre if it was for something like Blood Bowl or anything other than a new edition of 40K. Everything can be done the next day or during that day during normal hours. Why do I have the feeling this is like Geraldo Riveria opening ups Al Capone's vault? A whole bunch of excitement and then all of nothing and a waste of time.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Bloodbowl might be lacklustre to you, Davor, but it is worth saying that Bloodbowl still has a surprisingly large, active community, all while the game is "dead" technically.
I think it goes without saying that any game which engenders that kind of loyalty, is a pretty big deal over-all.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: ....but it is worth saying that Bloodbowl still has a surprisingly large, active community, all while the game is "dead" technically.
How large is large?
Many dead games have active communities, it's hard to gauge how large they are, could just be a few guys in a basement who happen to have an internet forum.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: ....but it is worth saying that Bloodbowl still has a surprisingly large, active community, all while the game is "dead" technically.
How large is large?
Many dead games have active communities, it's hard to gauge how large they are, could just be a few guys in a basement who happen to have an internet forum.
Honestly can't think of a "dead" game that gets sort of numbers, so we are a talking a few more than "a few guys in a basement who happen to have an internet forum" with that.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: ....but it is worth saying that Bloodbowl still has a surprisingly large, active community, all while the game is "dead" technically.
How large is large?
Many dead games have active communities, it's hard to gauge how large they are, could just be a few guys in a basement who happen to have an internet forum.
Honestly can't think of a "dead" game that gets sort of numbers, so we are a talking a few more than "a few guys in a basement who happen to have an internet forum" with that.
GW is also anticipating enough interest in Blood Bowl to warrant it having its own official website, something we haven't previously seen with any of their other non-main game releases as far as I am aware.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
The point of announcing a midnight release is not necessarily just to sell stuff at midnight. It's hype. It all builds anticipation.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
General Kroll wrote: I honestly don't see the point in midnight releases. Is anything really worth going to the shops in the middle of the night for, when you could go there at a reasonable hour the next day and still get the same thing?
I've never seen the appeal.
Maybe I'm just a miserable old git.
It works for Apple and game releases, so i think they will think there be a huge crowd in front of the shop.
I hope it will not be like the Xbone release in Japan
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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: ....but it is worth saying that Bloodbowl still has a surprisingly large, active community, all while the game is "dead" technically.
How large is large?
Many dead games have active communities, it's hard to gauge how large they are, could just be a few guys in a basement who happen to have an internet forum.
There are, or were 30,000 players registering games on the Bloodbowl community stat tracker. :-p
A new wrinkle to this rumour is that bloodbowl is up for preorder on the 18th of November, so presumably you will be able to buy the game at midnight on the 25th.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: ....but it is worth saying that Bloodbowl still has a surprisingly large, active community, all while the game is "dead" technically.
How large is large?
Many dead games have active communities, it's hard to gauge how large they are, could just be a few guys in a basement who happen to have an internet forum.
There are, or were 30,000 players registering games on the Bloodbowl community stat tracker. :-p
The 2016 NAF Championship saw 144 players come from across Europe, the UK, and the US.
Chaos Cup 2016 had 81 players.
And that's not including the tournaments that happen on a weekly basis across the world. Seems pretty good for a dead game, and its why I hope GW does everything possible to integrate NAF support into the new version of Bloodbowl.
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Chikout wrote: A new wrinkle to this rumour is that bloodbowl is up for preorder on the 18th of November, so presumably you will be able to buy the game at midnight on the 25th.
I think you are correct.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
EnTyme wrote: My money's still on Thousand Sons/Fenris Part 2. The timeline for the leaks just lines up right.
I think this is the case as well.
But why would that particular product be that much more special than BB - or even the very similar Prospero Burns that even has the same two factions - to be the only one to get a super secret midnight release?
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
Cephalobeard wrote: Could it not be an expanded release for Custodes/Sisters of Silence, now that we know they're a thing?
Imagine them, Magnus, and the expanded Sons being made available this year.
What you see is what you are getting from the Sisters of Silence and the Custodes.
Their small unit size is what they are built around, there will not be more to it (At least from GW)
Has anyone even bothered to try and fact check this with other GW stores or sources?
Or is it just the one person in the OP.
Wasn't there a rumor like this last year also that never happened?
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Cephalobeard wrote: Could it not be an expanded release for Custodes/Sisters of Silence, now that we know they're a thing?
Imagine them, Magnus, and the expanded Sons being made available this year.
What you see is what you are getting from the Sisters of Silence and the Custodes.
Their small unit size is what they are built around, there will not be more to it (At least from GW)
Has anyone even bothered to try and fact check this with other GW stores or sources?
Or is it just the one person in the OP.
Wasn't there a rumor like this last year also that never happened?
I don't believe you have any basis to assume there WONT be more to them beyond this, beyond simply believing there wont be. There's been a number of whispers of adding more of this, if not purely for 30k, as available models.
I'm presenting a possibility.
Until you have something from GW, you can't state it WONT EVER HAPPEN. A few weeks ago I'm sure people said the same thing about them at all, but look where we are.
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I should have explained it more and guess I assumed again people would have understood what I meant. 
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
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