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gungo wrote:
You guys are just complaining because you feel you need to because there is absolutely nothing wrong with this mat unless you didn't want a mat with as much detail.

Well, no, I'm complaining because GW are presenting this:


...as 'An instant gaming table in one click'. Which, while technically true, is not at all a good representation of what a gaming table for Warhammer 40000 should look like. A couple of shipping containers and some pipes on a 4x4 board are nowhere near enough terrain for a reasonable game.


And the fact that it's $350 really doesn't help it any.




It's also possibly worth noting that going by that picture, the mat doesn't actually sit particularly flat (look at the edges), which isn't something that I've found from other neoprene mats currently on the market.

Mat and scenery combo is only $209

But yes, you would think they would have ironed the mat flat before taking photos of it.

EDIT: at $85 for just the mat, thats pretty steep considering Fat Mats are $75 and come with a carrying case.

Chopxsticks wrote:
Mat and scenery combo is only $209

In your part of the world maybe.

I thought $$ was only my part of the world?
EDIT: I didnt know Aussies shared the $ symbol... the more you know!!

Here I thought GW was getting better, and they pull this stunt.

During the 5th/6th ed shift, I bought a Citadel Battlemat for $25. It is 6X4, green, with a surface that feels like it is flocked but some sort of rubberized backing. I've used it for 40K, Bolt Action, WarMachine, All Quiet on the Martain Front and even Mechwarrior/Battletech, and I love it. Why in the world did they ever discontinue it?

<Edit> I think one thing they should have considered was taking top-down shots of their realms of battle board and made those mats - or possibly neopryne mats to extend the plastic tiles.

The new strike force Ultima is really a good deal:

Terminator squad: $50 USD
Stern guard: $50 USD
Storm Hawk: $56 USD
Tactical Squad: $40 USD
Land Raider: $75 USD
Razorback: $41 USD
Drop pod: $41 USD
Terminator Captain: $25 USD
Total: $376 USD not including transfers.

However, you can get this box for $250 USD and with a 30% discount, your looking at buying this set for $175, which is a HUGE deal!!! Best of all, it is a formation so if your new, this is a great starting point for anyone.

Davor wrote:
Now that I see minis on the map, I don't like it. As I said before, having the bridge on the map while does look good, just means you can only play the map a certain way.

I don't know, the bridge just make the map look smaller than it actually is.

It's not really a 'bridge' though. The way it's drawn, it's more of a roadway with a raised edge. There's no reason it couldn't be played as allowing models to move freely across it, as they would a curb.

Celestialpainting wrote:
...and with a 30% discount...

Where are you getting this discount from? I can't find better than 25%, and then only on special pre-order sales.

 Breotan wrote:

Celestialpainting wrote:
...and with a 30% discount...

Where are you getting this discount from? I can't find better than 25%, and then only on special pre-order sales.

Still, 25% off would be an insane deal. This would be a great starter set for 2014-Me. I would make use of nearly everything in it.

 Lockark wrote:
Buildings on a mat is a big no no for me. When I get home from work I will see what the khorn one looks like.

Edit: oh. That khorn one is a lot nicer.

They're not buildings but road, fortunately. It did look like a bridge in the low res pictures.

 Stormonu wrote:
During the 5th/6th ed shift, I bought a Citadel Battlemat for $25. It is 6X4, green, with a surface that feels like it is flocked but some sort of rubberized backing. I've used it for 40K, Bolt Action, WarMachine, All Quiet on the Martain Front and even Mechwarrior/Battletech, and I love it. Why in the world did they ever discontinue it?

I have one of those. Fantastic purchase.

@Breotan- I use ministomp.com, they usually have 30% off when something comes out, but only like 15% on pre-order

Celestialpainting wrote:
The new strike force Ultima is really a good deal:

Terminator squad: $50 USD
Stern guard: $50 USD
Storm Hawk: $56 USD
Tactical Squad: $40 USD
Land Raider: $75 USD
Razorback: $41 USD
Drop pod: $41 USD
Terminator Captain: $25 USD
Total: $376 USD not including transfers.

However, you can get this box for $250 USD and with a 30% discount, your looking at buying this set for $175, which is a HUGE deal!!! Best of all, it is a formation so if your new, this is a great starting point for anyone.

I wonder if this means that they are going to release bigger boxes for all armies or this is a space marine only thing.

Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:

Celestialpainting wrote:
The new strike force Ultima is really a good deal:

Terminator squad: $50 USD
Stern guard: $50 USD
Storm Hawk: $56 USD
Tactical Squad: $40 USD
Land Raider: $75 USD
Razorback: $41 USD
Drop pod: $41 USD
Terminator Captain: $25 USD
Total: $376 USD not including transfers.

However, you can get this box for $250 USD and with a 30% discount, your looking at buying this set for $175, which is a HUGE deal!!! Best of all, it is a formation so if your new, this is a great starting point for anyone.

I wonder if this means that they are going to release bigger boxes for all armies or this is a space marine only thing.

If I remember correctly there has been a history of big army boxes (normally Space Marine and a couple of others) released to try and catch the Christmas gift market.

December tends to be new model light with the main products being army boxes and new paint/ scenery collections or limited release figure cases.

I guess we'll find out when the Dec WD gets leaked.

Not overly fond of the Khornate mat, but I did quite like the City Ruins one. Could make for a really interesting game on the City mat. IoM holding back the Xenos and denying them access to the Hive.

So, GW sell 2 modular tables with the technical ability to do raised "hills" and heights, but choose to do flat design.

Now they do mats, with no possible way of doing actual structured surface/raised points, and decide to do a dramatic structured design.

My personal oppinion is that these new mats are horrible and would ruin my gaming experience. I dont see how I could build a nice setting on top without getting a really awkvard looking 2D/3D fusion.
I will give them a pass.

Yeah, scenery is gonna look awkward as hell on these. Pass.

6x6 Realm of Battle board - $330.

4x4 Battle Mat - $85.

The Battle Mat is an affordable alternative for those who can't afford a Realm of Battle board and don't want to play on a bare table.

 Ghaz wrote:
6x6 Realm of Battle board - $330.

4x4 Battle Mat - $85.

The Battle Mat is an affordable alternative for those who can't afford a Realm of Battle board and don't want to play on a bare table.

To help perspective....

You can buy secrete weapon tablescapes 6x4 that are more modular for 250$

Also its a good rule of thumb to take any GW product and discount it 30% since that's the price you can get pretty much anywhere. So really GWs 6x4 is 231$.

So same with the 4x4, sitting at about 59$.

The problem is, they got into mat making late in the game. Plenty of already established companies that do mats for a lot less

As for the 3d/2d issue, I don't get how it even is a issue. As to why people are freaked out by it. Unless your playing on a table that isn't flat at all, in any spot, scenery printed on a matt is the exact same as your table.

 Ghaz wrote:

On another note, this actually made me laugh. "Oh, and don't forget to use water in your iron!"

ruhe.bryan wrote:

On another note, this actually made me laugh. "Oh, and don't forget to use water in your iron!"

Please, that’s a Khorne map. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD IRON!

 Nevelon wrote:

ruhe.bryan wrote:

On another note, this actually made me laugh. "Oh, and don't forget to use water in your iron!"

Please, that’s a Khorne map. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD IRON!

PERMANENT PRESS FOR THE PERMANENT PRESS THRONE!

I just don't understand. As much as they charge for these things, why don't they go 1 step further and make actual textured mats?

https://www.universalrocks.com/aquarium-reptile-pet/backgrounds/versatile-flat-sheets/3-sizes

That for example is pretty high quality, but they could easily make something similar for a lower price point.

 Fayric wrote:
So, GW sell 2 modular tables with the technical ability to do raised "hills" and heights, but choose to do flat design.

Now they do mats, with no possible way of doing actual structured surface/raised points, and decide to do a dramatic structured design.

My personal oppinion is that these new mats are horrible and would ruin my gaming experience. I dont see how I could build a nice setting on top without getting a really awkvard looking 2D/3D fusion.
I will give them a pass.

This is my problem with them too. The khorn one is at least closer to what I find acceptable for these mats, but not feeling it enough to want it over the competition.

At that price point I kinda want the secret weapon board for not that much more tbh.

 Ghaz wrote:
6x6 Realm of Battle board - $330.

4x4 Battle Mat - $85.

The Battle Mat is an affordable alternative for those who can't afford a Realm of Battle board and don't want to play on a bare table.

Products exist outside of the GW bubble. You have to WANT a realm of battle board first and then not be able to afford it.