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Okay, arguments sake, lets assume that its not a joke and they are going to be released in a few months. Not here to discuss that.


But GW has generally tried to tie its big releases to campaigns. Sure you had Genestealer Cults and Deathwatch. Plus Traitors Hate was a campaign without a big model release. But, you then have Warzone Fenris which is obviously setting up the huge Thousand Sons release. Plus the Damocles campaign which was a tie in for Imperial Knights and all of the big Tau releases of the last two editions.

So presumably they would probably want to tie them into a campaign. Pretty easy as the Imperium is always involved in these things. That's how the appeared in Shield of Baal and its possible given the end of Angels Blade that they might be involved in the inevitable fight on Baal against Nids (and Khorne? Me smell Angron vs Sanguinor). But I kind of feel that the Baal campaign is a bit too much of a personal struggle with the Blood Angels and I don't think they would distract people from that.

My guess is that IF they are bringing out all 6 Daemon Primarchs. If they did bring out all four major god ones then they literally only have to add Perturabo and Lorgar. So, you might as well, its not like just doing the four god ones is manageable. Then, if you look at what they have done with Warzone Fenris, they've very much tried to tap into the Heresy era vendetta and use the Primarches character to drive the narrative. Revenge for Prospero.

Which makes me think that if they wanted to do a Sisters of Battle themed campaign and have it be big high stakes and tied to End Times that it will be all about Lorgar appearing in the Galaxy. He created the Imperial Creed and is The First Heretic. Of all of them he has the most reason to want to physically destroy and corrupt the Imperial Faith. Its like destroying his weaker self. So, if you know the lore the Ecclesiarchy has two principal shrine worlds; Terra and Ophelia. We're not getting to Terra anytime soon so I think they might have the Word Bearers attack and possibly even destroy Ophelia. They then set up the Sisters of Battle confronting the Demon Primarch and his Word Bearers.

The big, big reason against them doing this. Notice the Ultramar symbol below. Is that if those loyalist primarches do come back then it would also make sense for Gulliman and Lorgar to have a showdown. Which would point to the Word Bearers making a second Shadow Crusade against Ultramar; which I think is the other side of the galaxy to Ophelia.

Of course this all assumes that we will get a plastic Lorgar and that he will be as big a deal as he is in the Heresy. It could be we only see the four god demon primarches. But its food for thought.

I am surprised that more hasn't been made of hostility between the Sisters of Battle and the Word Bearers.

Armageddon? I think a couple of Orders are present in that conflict, and it'd be nice for Armageddon to make a return into the 40k picture.

 General Annoyance wrote:
Armageddon? I think a couple of Orders are present in that conflict, and it'd be nice for Armageddon to make a return into the 40k picture.

I don't think Armageddon is current. Well, it is, but from what I heard Ghazgull teleported into another Ork Empire and is now uniting the Ork. He is supposed to be on his way to Octarius. So if theres a campaign involving rks its probably going to be Ork vs Nid. "Whoever wins, we lose."

 Totalwar1402 wrote:


I don't think Armageddon is current. Well, it is, but from what I heard Ghazgull teleported into another Ork Empire and is now uniting the Ork. He is supposed to be on his way to Octarius. So if theres a campaign involving rks its probably going to be Ork vs Nid. "Whoever wins, we lose."

Ghazgkull may have left, but that has in no way dulled the fighting that goes on there. Armageddon is still a vital Imperial World, and the Imperium will fight on it as such, whether the Beast of Armageddon is present or not.

 General Annoyance wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:


I don't think Armageddon is current. Well, it is, but from what I heard Ghazgull teleported into another Ork Empire and is now uniting the Ork. He is supposed to be on his way to Octarius. So if theres a campaign involving rks its probably going to be Ork vs Nid. "Whoever wins, we lose."

Ghazgkull may have left, but that has in no way dulled the fighting that goes on there. Armageddon is still a vital Imperial World, and the Imperium will fight on it as such, whether the Beast of Armageddon is present or not.

Yeah but they can't really carry on that story without Big Green. Plus with so many campaigns ongoing they seem to be trying to keep them down if at all possible.

We might return to Armageddon at some point mind you. It is on the road to Terra after all.

Sanctuary 101. Sisters vs Necron massacre

I like the idea. It assumes a lot, such as them releasing Logar. But it would be cool to have a showdown of faith that would 1) reintroduce SoB 2) bring in another daemon primarch and 3) tie into the 30k rush.

Sisters vs. the Squats, battle of the OOP

If the Imperium is on defence in the game's scenario then the Sororitas easily have a stake. It's not hard to argue the presence of battle sister squad on any given imperial world at any given time.

If they're on the offence then they're easily explained as either a small part of a larger force operating in the area as part of a crusade, or a retinue of some kind.

An easy one would be a palatine and her retinue ambushed by dark eldar, necrons or the like, or hunting down renegade guard or hereteks.

They starred in one not that long ago. The one that had the flesh tearers in the second part. I forget the actual name of the supplement. I just remember the badass canoness having the on going rivalry with the Lictor.

Shield of Baal

it is still a ongoing story, lots of Sisters survived the final battles and like the remaining Guard, Navy and other Imperial forces will likely end up in the Blood Angel home system.

The Sisters in that campaign kicked serious ass - hoping they are the basis for the new stuff - some great images and characters.

That campaign pack was awesome it had everything for the Sororitas new images, background, characters - well everything except actual new rules!

 Mr Morden wrote:
Shield of Baal

it is still a ongoing story, lots of Sisters survived the final battles and like the remaining Guard, Navy and other Imperial forces will likely end up in the Blood Angel home system.

The Sisters in that campaign kicked serious ass - hoping they are the basis for the new stuff - some great images and characters.

That campaign pack was awesome it had everything for the Sororitas new images, background, characters - well everything except actual new rules!

Ah thank you. My brain is fried after a near day long meeting with my MD. But yeah, it would be easy enough to get them into any campaign if they wanted.

The bloodtide returns.

Maybe include a grey knight terminator squad.

Blood angels. We promise to not kill you to coat our armor. We only need rage and jump packs to fight demons.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:

 General Annoyance wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:


I don't think Armageddon is current. Well, it is, but from what I heard Ghazgull teleported into another Ork Empire and is now uniting the Ork. He is supposed to be on his way to Octarius. So if theres a campaign involving rks its probably going to be Ork vs Nid. "Whoever wins, we lose."

Ghazgkull may have left, but that has in no way dulled the fighting that goes on there. Armageddon is still a vital Imperial World, and the Imperium will fight on it as such, whether the Beast of Armageddon is present or not.

Yeah but they can't really carry on that story without Big Green. Plus with so many campaigns ongoing they seem to be trying to keep them down if at all possible.

We might return to Armageddon at some point mind you. It is on the road to Terra after all.

Armageddon campaign is ongoing and in no way died down.

The current background for Ghaz is that he does not head all the conflicts, and is one of the few Orks that values putting other people in charge to manage things when he is busy. His goal is to put a large region of the system into conflict at the same time because he believes the psychic energy of the massive ork Waaagh across the system will summon GorkaMorka to material space- so he knows he cannot lead every conflict at once and has to keep them going by putting the right Orks in charge

Yeah but surely if they continue Shield of Baal its going to be the Blood Angels fighting on their home planet against Nids and Daemons. I am not saying they couldn't have Sisters and Imperial Guard show up but it would be really odd. It really should be about the Blood Angels.

The reason they showed up originally is because they wanted to show all the armies of the Imperium in play getting easily defeated by the Nids; plus to add some variety since the last campaign was heavily guard focused. As soon as the Blood Angels actually showed up in part 2 they very much went into the background.

They could be integrated in any story, a little like how there wasn't a specific campaign for AdMec despite being a big release; they just started showing up randomly in Damocles and other books.

Oddly enough, the end of Kauyon mentions that the Imperium is chucking the kitchen sink at the Tau including "entires Orders of Adeptus Soroitas", but then don't show up in Mont Ka. Hard to tell what to make of that. I felt that they had basically resolved Warzone Damocles with the burning of the Gulf and the end of the Third Sphere Expansion. Especially with the White Scars and Raven Guard leaving the battlefield. So I don't see them revisiting that campaign anytime soon. Of course I could be wrong and the Sisters just keep killing Tau...or Shadowsun is somehow able to use whats left of her stranded army to attack a shrine world.

Most of the survivors are on Blood Angel warships or being escorted by them so I think they would be quickly conscripted to defend the Baal System.

The Blood Angels are unlikely to be able to defend their system against a full blown Tyranid attack, they don't have the man power or the ships - even with successor Chapters heading to their aid (where possible) - they will definitely need the Imperial Navy and the other Imperial forces will be found a place.

Where does the Demon bit come in?

The Kauyon campaign was a major let down for me - , just a single planet and after all the talk about the various Imperial forces we just got Knights, Marines (and only the usual Chapters) and occasional bits of the other forces. No real mention of non Cadian Guard and the Navy was side-lined despite that being one of the areas in which the Imperium is stronger in number and quality.

The Ad Mech showed up ad then vanished, it did not even mention if they had managed to acquire the Tau tech they wanted or not.

I enjoyed the fluff much more in Shield of Baal.

Book 1: Revenge on the grey knights
Book2: Ow look SORCERERS lets combine forces and kill those instead

Someone in another thread suggested a Sanctuary 101 Necrons v. Sisters box. Not sure it'd happen given how much the Necron fluff has been overhauled since, but it'd be cool.

What battles did the sisters play a role in, in the previous black crusade iterations; ?

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Someone in another thread suggested a Sanctuary 101 Necrons v. Sisters box. Not sure it'd happen given how much the Necron fluff has been overhauled since, but it'd be cool.

All the campaigns they have done are current lore that's pushing the narrative.

Sanctuary 101 is sort of "First Contact" and a black library book by James Swallow details how the Sisters take the planet back.

But you're right, they are known for being entangled with the Necrons. They could do something with that but I don't think we've heard anything specific about the role the Necrons will play in this End Times. They made a brief cameo in Shield of Baal but aren't a mortal danger like the Nids, Chaos and Tau are getting. Especially the first two.

Did the Apocalypse Damnos book imply that the Necrons had any wider plans?


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 Mr Morden wrote:
Most of the survivors are on Blood Angel warships or being escorted by them so I think they would be quickly conscripted to defend the Baal System.

The Blood Angels are unlikely to be able to defend their system against a full blown Tyranid attack, they don't have the man power or the ships - even with successor Chapters heading to their aid (where possible) - they will definitely need the Imperial Navy and the other Imperial forces will be found a place.

Where does the Demon bit come in?

The Kauyon campaign was a major let down for me - , just a single planet and after all the talk about the various Imperial forces we just got Knights, Marines (and only the usual Chapters) and occasional bits of the other forces. No real mention of non Cadian Guard and the Navy was side-lined despite that being one of the areas in which the Imperium is stronger in number and quality.

The Ad Mech showed up ad then vanished, it did not even mention if they had managed to acquire the Tau tech they wanted or not.

I enjoyed the fluff much more in Shield of Baal.

Did the survivors of the Cryptus system appear in the "Angels Blade" Supplement? Its the same army so I would assume that if they were on those ships then we would have seen them pop up to fight there.

Well if you look at the map of the Cryptus system its all blood red and has demon faces in it. I think in an earlier Blood Angels codex it mentioned that Tyranids AND Khorne being let by the GD who fought Sanguinious from Fear to Tread was leading them. So far, they have turned the clock slightly back and are just focusing on the Nids but odds are that we are going to see Khorne make a play to destroy the Blood Angels. Be nice place to drop Angron.

sisters v. thousand sons would be pretty cool, though I'm not sure how 'fluffy' that would be.

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
sisters v. thousand sons would be pretty cool, though I'm not sure how 'fluffy' that would be.

Nah, if we were going to see them in WZ Fenris they'd have teased it in the first book. Looks like that's purely a show for the SW, DA and TS. Although it would echo the Sisters of Silence being at the Battle of Prospero.

I would love to see a sanctuary 101 box set. An imperial temple and sisters against an endless wave of necrons.