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insaniak wrote: Pretty much this. I have a bit of stuff that would be upsetting to lose, but nothing important enough to warrant potentially getting involved in a shooting match and/or killing anyone over. It's just stuff. .
I don't think you understand what this thread is for at all. It's supposed to be about airing your legally justifiable murder fantasies.
Well luckily in Finland simply breaking in isn't permission for the other guy to start shooting down(no wonder our murder rate is only small partion of USA. Safety rocks!). You gun down intruder and if you cannot prove your or other life WAS in serious danger(heaven forbid for example if they don't carry gun. Not that unlikely scenario here since we don't have gung-ho shoot'em'up culture here to create arms race between people and burglars) you will be charged with manslaughter.
Say it ain't so! I just realized I'm posting in a troll thread.
insaniak wrote: Pretty much this. I have a bit of stuff that would be upsetting to lose, but nothing important enough to warrant potentially getting involved in a shooting match and/or killing anyone over. It's just stuff. .
I don't think you understand what this thread is for at all. It's supposed to be about airing your legally justifiable murder fantasies.
Well luckily in Finland simply breaking in isn't permission for the other guy to start shooting down(no wonder our murder rate is only small partion of USA. Safety rocks!). You gun down intruder and if you cannot prove your or other life WAS in serious danger(heaven forbid for example if they don't carry gun. Not that unlikely scenario here since we don't have gung-ho shoot'em'up culture here to create arms race between people and burglars) you will be charged with manslaughter.
I think the murder rate in your country has less to do with lack of legal firearms in Finland and more to do with the culture of your nation. If some robber comes into my home, that to me says he is someone who wishes to cause harm to my family and that is all the go-ahead I need before I rip him a new kebab hole.
Nurgle wrote: I think the murder rate in your country has less to do with lack of legal firearms in Finland and more to do with the culture of your nation. If some robber comes into my home, that to me says he is someone who wishes to cause harm to my family and that is all the go-ahead I need before I rip him a new kebab hole.
Third Ward Houston brosef, teaches you lessons.
Which has no connection at all to the gung-ho shoot'em'up attitude in your country? Robbers know they can get shot=they will bring guns and are bound to shoot.
In Finland robber has no real reason to expect getting shot and killed so he's less likely to feel the need to kill either as that adds serious crime charge in case he gets caught. Not worth it.
You have created arms race and now pay up the price with ridiculously high murder rate for "civilized" country.
And it's not like it's impossible to have gun in Finland either. We just don't feel need to arm everybody with assault rifles. Guess we appreciate human life more than lethal toys.
Of course if it makes you feel better we can conclude that USA people are just genetically incapable of having low murder rate Me I'm not fan of blaming everything on genetics and prefer culture as explanation and in culture the big difference is the constant arm race and willingness to use that fuels the mutual "shoot'em'up" mentality.
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2016/10/18 17:01:58
Subject: Re:So someone tries breaking into your home
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Matt Best and crew are great, as is the Ranger Up crew (the two made the Range 15 movie).
I have one of the Palmetto State Defense Range 15 rifles (spoiler for language):
Spoiler:
I live in a rural area. To get onto my property you've gone through at least one locked gate or a barbed wire fence, then walked a few hundred yards to get to the house. In the OP's scenario, it would depend on daughter home or not/where in the house she was. Regardless, the dogs (two rat dogs and 4 decent sized dogs) probably delay anyone coming in, and based on how I hear them being handled lets me know if the intruders are armed.
First step is getting daughter safe, and if she is downstairs watching TV that likely means confronting the intruders as I am. If she is upstairs she'll go to a place she is reasonably safe and I'll go upstairs. No one else will get up the stair case. Once I'm sure daughter is secure and I have the staircase secured there is time to call for help.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
2016/10/18 17:37:26
Subject: Re:So someone tries breaking into your home
Matt Best and crew are great, as is the Ranger Up crew (the two made the Range 15 movie).
I have one of the Palmetto State Defense Range 15 rifles (spoiler for language):
Spoiler:
I live in a rural area. To get onto my property you've gone through at least one locked gate or a barbed wire fence, then walked a few hundred yards to get to the house. In the OP's scenario, it would depend on daughter home or not/where in the house she was. Regardless, the dogs (two rat dogs and 4 decent sized dogs) probably delay anyone coming in, and based on how I hear them being handled lets me know if the intruders are armed.
First step is getting daughter safe, and if she is downstairs watching TV that likely means confronting the intruders as I am. If she is upstairs she'll go to a place she is reasonably safe and I'll go upstairs. No one else will get up the stair case. Once I'm sure daughter is secure and I have the staircase secured there is time to call for help.
Wait, what's your Arfcom handle??
Palmetto State is the debil!
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Nurgle wrote: I think the murder rate in your country has less to do with lack of legal firearms in Finland and more to do with the culture of your nation. If some robber comes into my home, that to me says he is someone who wishes to cause harm to my family and that is all the go-ahead I need before I rip him a new kebab hole.
Third Ward Houston brosef, teaches you lessons.
Which has no connection at all to the gung-ho shoot'em'up attitude in your country? Robbers know they can get shot=they will bring guns and are bound to shoot.
In Finland robber has no real reason to expect getting shot and killed so he's less likely to feel the need to kill either as that adds serious crime charge in case he gets caught. Not worth it.
You have created arms race and now pay up the price with ridiculously high murder rate for "civilized" country.
And it's not like it's impossible to have gun in Finland either. We just don't feel need to arm everybody with assault rifles. Guess we appreciate human life more than lethal toys.
Of course if it makes you feel better we can conclude that USA people are just genetically incapable of having low murder rate Me I'm not fan of blaming everything on genetics and prefer culture as explanation and in culture the big difference is the constant arm race and willingness to use that fuels the mutual "shoot'em'up" mentality.
USA murder rate is comparable to most of the westernized nations a tad slightly higher...Something to consider though is Mexico - it has one of the highest murder rates is the world. We have a massive boarder with them - safe to assume some murders are getting through...in the drug trade mostly.
If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
- Fox Mulder
Nurgle wrote: I think the murder rate in your country has less to do with lack of legal firearms in Finland and more to do with the culture of your nation. If some robber comes into my home, that to me says he is someone who wishes to cause harm to my family and that is all the go-ahead I need before I rip him a new kebab hole.
Third Ward Houston brosef, teaches you lessons.
Which has no connection at all to the gung-ho shoot'em'up attitude in your country? Robbers know they can get shot=they will bring guns and are bound to shoot.
In Finland robber has no real reason to expect getting shot and killed so he's less likely to feel the need to kill either as that adds serious crime charge in case he gets caught. Not worth it.
You have created arms race and now pay up the price with ridiculously high murder rate for "civilized" country.
And it's not like it's impossible to have gun in Finland either. We just don't feel need to arm everybody with assault rifles. Guess we appreciate human life more than lethal toys.
Of course if it makes you feel better we can conclude that USA people are just genetically incapable of having low murder rate Me I'm not fan of blaming everything on genetics and prefer culture as explanation and in culture the big difference is the constant arm race and willingness to use that fuels the mutual "shoot'em'up" mentality.
USA murder rate is comparable to most of the westernized nations a tad slightly higher...Something to consider though is Mexico - it has one of the highest murder rates is the world. We have a massive boarder with them - safe to assume some murders are getting through...in the drug trade mostly.
no, just no
most of the murders are from disgruntled white people, they have this insane idea that "murder suicide" is an achievable life goal.
but nice try, the but were slightly better than a 3rd world nation defense never flies.
Your reply to Xeno's post actually has almost nothing to do with what he posted, nor is it accurate.
Murder/suicide is not the majority of murders in the US.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Nurgle wrote: I think the murder rate in your country has less to do with lack of legal firearms in Finland and more to do with the culture of your nation. If some robber comes into my home, that to me says he is someone who wishes to cause harm to my family and that is all the go-ahead I need before I rip him a new kebab hole.
Third Ward Houston brosef, teaches you lessons.
Which has no connection at all to the gung-ho shoot'em'up attitude in your country? Robbers know they can get shot=they will bring guns and are bound to shoot.
In Finland robber has no real reason to expect getting shot and killed so he's less likely to feel the need to kill either as that adds serious crime charge in case he gets caught. Not worth it.
You have created arms race and now pay up the price with ridiculously high murder rate for "civilized" country.
And it's not like it's impossible to have gun in Finland either. We just don't feel need to arm everybody with assault rifles. Guess we appreciate human life more than lethal toys.
Of course if it makes you feel better we can conclude that USA people are just genetically incapable of having low murder rate Me I'm not fan of blaming everything on genetics and prefer culture as explanation and in culture the big difference is the constant arm race and willingness to use that fuels the mutual "shoot'em'up" mentality.
USA murder rate is comparable to most of the westernized nations a tad slightly higher...Something to consider though is Mexico - it has one of the highest murder rates is the world. We have a massive boarder with them - safe to assume some murders are getting through...in the drug trade mostly.
no, just no
most of the murders are from disgruntled white people, they have this insane idea that "murder suicide" is an achievable life goal.
but nice try, the but were slightly better than a 3rd world nation defense never flies.
Okay so you are just making stuff up now. The murders you are referring to are actually a very small source of total murders.
If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
- Fox Mulder
Just a general post here to point out that we're turning a "What would you do if your house was being broken into whilst you were inside?" thread, which until now has been surprisingly stable, into yet another "GUNS! CRIME! AMERICA! RARGH!" thread that inevitably ends only one way.
If anyone who wants to discuss that sort of stuff could please take it somewhere else or simply ignore anyone trying to derail the thread, that'd be great, because seeing threads locked due to people who can't stick the topic and/or can't control their reply impulses and tempers is really getting old.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Back to houses, I've yet to see one use of a chainsaw or good old fashioned mace/billhook/hallberd in this thread. Come on Brits, I expected better!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I'd turn up the big haired 80's rock, pick up my hobby knife and pretend to be Steven Seagal. For about 15 seconds until I remembered how crap I am at knife throwing...
Nurgle wrote: I think the murder rate in your country has less to do with lack of legal firearms in Finland and more to do with the culture of your nation. If some robber comes into my home, that to me says he is someone who wishes to cause harm to my family and that is all the go-ahead I need before I rip him a new kebab hole.
Third Ward Houston brosef, teaches you lessons.
Which has no connection at all to the gung-ho shoot'em'up attitude in your country? Robbers know they can get shot=they will bring guns and are bound to shoot.
In Finland robber has no real reason to expect getting shot and killed so he's less likely to feel the need to kill either as that adds serious crime charge in case he gets caught. Not worth it.
You have created arms race and now pay up the price with ridiculously high murder rate for "civilized" country.
And it's not like it's impossible to have gun in Finland either. We just don't feel need to arm everybody with assault rifles. Guess we appreciate human life more than lethal toys.
Of course if it makes you feel better we can conclude that USA people are just genetically incapable of having low murder rate Me I'm not fan of blaming everything on genetics and prefer culture as explanation and in culture the big difference is the constant arm race and willingness to use that fuels the mutual "shoot'em'up" mentality.
I'm getting the impression that your conception of America is basically a cartoon where everyone dresses like Yosemite Sam and greets each other by saying "Hey, Tex!"
Nurgle wrote: I think the murder rate in your country has less to do with lack of legal firearms in Finland and more to do with the culture of your nation. If some robber comes into my home, that to me says he is someone who wishes to cause harm to my family and that is all the go-ahead I need before I rip him a new kebab hole.
Third Ward Houston brosef, teaches you lessons.
Which has no connection at all to the gung-ho shoot'em'up attitude in your country? Robbers know they can get shot=they will bring guns and are bound to shoot.
In Finland robber has no real reason to expect getting shot and killed so he's less likely to feel the need to kill either as that adds serious crime charge in case he gets caught. Not worth it.
You have created arms race and now pay up the price with ridiculously high murder rate for "civilized" country.
And it's not like it's impossible to have gun in Finland either. We just don't feel need to arm everybody with assault rifles. Guess we appreciate human life more than lethal toys.
Of course if it makes you feel better we can conclude that USA people are just genetically incapable of having low murder rate Me I'm not fan of blaming everything on genetics and prefer culture as explanation and in culture the big difference is the constant arm race and willingness to use that fuels the mutual "shoot'em'up" mentality.
USA murder rate is comparable to most of the westernized nations a tad slightly higher...Something to consider though is Mexico - it has one of the highest murder rates is the world. We have a massive boarder with them - safe to assume some murders are getting through...in the drug trade mostly.
no, just no
most of the murders are from disgruntled white people, they have this insane idea that "murder suicide" is an achievable life goal.
but nice try, the but were slightly better than a 3rd world nation defense never flies.
Yeah man those white people who are minorities but do so many more crimes than any other race
oh wait
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Once again, we march to war, for Victory or Death!
Never wake yourself at night, unless you are spying on your enemy or looking for a place to relieve yourself. - The Poetic Edda
JamesY wrote: I'd turn up the big haired 80's rock, pick up my hobby knife and pretend to be Steven Seagal. For about 15 seconds until I remembered how crap I am at knife throwing...
Hair bands are a good choice. Or something classically kick ass like this:
Nurgle wrote: I think the murder rate in your country has less to do with lack of legal firearms in Finland and more to do with the culture of your nation. If some robber comes into my home, that to me says he is someone who wishes to cause harm to my family and that is all the go-ahead I need before I rip him a new kebab hole.
Third Ward Houston brosef, teaches you lessons.
Which has no connection at all to the gung-ho shoot'em'up attitude in your country? Robbers know they can get shot=they will bring guns and are bound to shoot.
In Finland robber has no real reason to expect getting shot and killed so he's less likely to feel the need to kill either as that adds serious crime charge in case he gets caught. Not worth it.
You have created arms race and now pay up the price with ridiculously high murder rate for "civilized" country.
And it's not like it's impossible to have gun in Finland either. We just don't feel need to arm everybody with assault rifles. Guess we appreciate human life more than lethal toys.
Of course if it makes you feel better we can conclude that USA people are just genetically incapable of having low murder rate Me I'm not fan of blaming everything on genetics and prefer culture as explanation and in culture the big difference is the constant arm race and willingness to use that fuels the mutual "shoot'em'up" mentality.
USA murder rate is comparable to most of the westernized nations a tad slightly higher...Something to consider though is Mexico - it has one of the highest murder rates is the world. We have a massive boarder with them - safe to assume some murders are getting through...in the drug trade mostly.
no, just no
most of the murders are from disgruntled white people, they have this insane idea that "murder suicide" is an achievable life goal.
but nice try, the but were slightly better than a 3rd world nation defense never flies.
Yeah man those white people who are minorities but do so many more crimes than any other race
oh wait
Yes, and you all completely missed the point.
white murderers > people murdered by mexicans in the drug trade. people murdered in the drug trade is so low it contributes almost nothing to the murder rate. White on white crime is so horrific that it's never even talked about.
My hobby table is in the basement, same with most of my stuff I care about, only way to break in is through the upstairs. I have a handgun stashed away by my hobby table so I'll fetch that and call the police. If they start to head down stairs I'll inform them that I am on the phone with the police and that I am armed and will use any means necessary to protect myself.
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts."
2016/10/19 00:23:24
Subject: Re:So someone tries breaking into your home
I'd quietly sneak into my hallway and release the catch to the Wolfman's cell, retreat to my panic room, bar the door, put on ear defenders and think happy thoughts.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Me I'm not fan of blaming everything on genetics and prefer culture as explanation and in culture the big difference is the constant arm race and willingness to use that fuels the mutual "shoot'em'up" mentality.
