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So most of the sub armies and such i can think of have been done. That still leaves things like maybe kroot or Exodites. I understand Tau have kroot in them but let's be honest that Tau armies never seem to use them or the vespid. A force of tau converts or Eldar Exodites wouldn't be too far off if we have genestealer cults and similar. Considering the custodes in the horus heresy boxset we may even get that. If i recall they're all busy guarding the emperor though but it could be cool to see them fielded. Even if 50% of all the armies are space marines in one form or another.

It might be my personal bias, but I see an increase of interest in Exodites on this forum recently And given that GW seems to at least acknowledge interwebz existence recently, this might as well put Exodites on a "to do list" of GW. But I'll doubt that this would be any priority... But all kinds of suitable reptiles already have CAD files (AOS range) and putting some armour on them is not a problem. What might be too much of a hassle for GW design team is that they would have to invent faction aesthetics from scratch - there were never any models for Exodites and only a single codex entry in a 2nd ed book. And GW likes their factions to have some sort of a "at a glance" visual distinction, so putting Shining Spears or Rangers on Cold Ones might be a good DIY converting idea, but GW would never go down such path. And as much as I think GW is perfectly capable of such effort, it is unlikely they would do this for such a nonexistent and nonimperial faction... Sadly.

nou wrote:
It might be my personal bias, but I see an increase of interest in Exodites on this forum recently And given that GW seems to at least acknowledge interwebz existence recently, this might as well put Exodites on a "to do list" of GW. But I'll doubt that this would be any priority... But all kinds of suitable reptiles already have CAD files (AOS range) and putting some armour on them is not a problem. What might be too much of a hassle for GW design team is that they would have to invent faction aesthetics from scratch - there were never any models for Exodites and only a single codex entry in a 2nd ed book. And GW likes their factions to have some sort of a "at a glance" visual distinction, so putting Shining Spears or Rangers on Cold Ones might be a good DIY converting idea, but GW would never go down such path. And as much as I think GW is perfectly capable of such effort, it is unlikely they would do this for such a nonexistent and nonimperial faction... Sadly.

They're wood elves in space. I don't imagine it'd be much different than the wood elves back when fantasy existed except more sci-fi. Probably not so much psyker power but a low armor, elite hit and run force with possible webway use. Only problem is that dark eldar currently do exactly that. Course in some ways eldar do in general. Just give Exodites more beasts.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

nou wrote:
It might be my personal bias, but I see an increase of interest in Exodites on this forum recently And given that GW seems to at least acknowledge interwebz existence recently, this might as well put Exodites on a "to do list" of GW. But I'll doubt that this would be any priority... But all kinds of suitable reptiles already have CAD files (AOS range) and putting some armour on them is not a problem. What might be too much of a hassle for GW design team is that they would have to invent faction aesthetics from scratch - there were never any models for Exodites and only a single codex entry in a 2nd ed book. And GW likes their factions to have some sort of a "at a glance" visual distinction, so putting Shining Spears or Rangers on Cold Ones might be a good DIY converting idea, but GW would never go down such path. And as much as I think GW is perfectly capable of such effort, it is unlikely they would do this for such a nonexistent and nonimperial faction... Sadly.

They're wood elves in space. I don't imagine it'd be much different than the wood elves back when fantasy existed except more sci-fi. Probably not so much psyker power but a low armor, elite hit and run force with possible webway use. Only problem is that dark eldar currently do exactly that. Course in some ways eldar do in general. Just give Exodites more beasts.

Well - they are not exactly Wood Elves in space - they herd, hunt and use reptile fauna but do not use any animated flora. There is a concept of World Spirit, but it is described just as an exodite wersion of an Infinite Circuit, not a Gaia-like "conciousness of a planet". The original Exodites are described more like nomad, reptile herding amish elves in space. And their use of a webway is more static than Dark Eldar or Craftworlders, because of the nature of their crude technology. And rarely use wraithbone, as they have no easy way of manufacturing enough of it.

A huge part the problem with exodites is that between 2nd ed and nowadays GW mixed up a lot of different Space Elves ideas - originally there were Craftworlders, Harlequins, Pirates and Exodites (with Pirates being a somewhat part of the original RT era, and Exodites being only mentioned in the codex, without any models and with only a small visual hint of a couple of drawings and two pages of lore). With the introduction of Dark Eldar and Gothic Pirate Fleets they mixed up the original Pirates idea, so that Forge World had to invent Corsairs just to bring the original Space Elves Pirates concept to life (there was a huge outcry of dissapointment in the community when first Dark Eldar models came out and they were "evil, grotesque, hedonistic Eldar" and not "adventurous, quick tempered Eldar"). And when I wrote about design hassle, I meant details - Craftworld Eldar are generally "smooth curves" space elves, Dark Eldar are spiky armour space elves and Harlequins are no-armour/mohawk/two-face-grim space elves. Corsairs have the least distinctive design, being mostly guardians with different helmets and different winglet curve design on anything that has winglets. The original Exodites should be something like a cross-breed between Eldar Rangers and Dark/Wood Elves, but nothing like current Sylvaneth (although there is an Eldar god named Kurnous, so the whole lore between AOS/WHFB/WH40K gets even more mixed up, so Sylvaneth based Exodite conversions are quite popular and could be officially explored deeper). And because there is so litle established lore about Exodites, if GW ever actually made them, there would be a mix between joy and dissapointment within community, because everyone who now makes Exodites conversions basically has to invent the lore for themselves (myself included).

I still remember the old Kroot mini-dex from Chapter Approved. I'd love to see more armies like that, either working as allies or standalone. It could really spice up the game.

I am still praying for a Kroot Mercenaries supplement. I collected Tau as much for Kroot as for the Tau. But they have been a complete afterthought for 2 codex editions now.

Ideally if GW wanted to split up Eldar so badly they should have done an Outcasts book featuring Harlequin, Exodites, Corsairs, and possibly Rangers/Scouts. It would have been enough to justify the cost of a book (unlike a small Harlequin list).

However I do think Exodites would take at least three model kits and that's a risk considering Exodites have never been provided as a supported army before. I suspect this is not a very high priority. It would give them a chance though to produce another crazy $140 kit if they did a huge dinosaur-esque model with howdas and turrets on it. There is some excellent fluff about Exodite Eldar fighting Knight Barrons...and a battle between Knights and huge Eldar dragon rider beasts would be kind of cool.

I think the Exodites are definitely a nice avenue GW could go for modeling, and they could definitely be the source of a new campaign. It's a pretty strong fluff point since they can be aided by normal Eldar, Corsairs etc. I don't think we'll see it happen and I don't think the Exodites should be their own army (way too many small pissant armies already).

 Elbows wrote:
Ideally if GW wanted to split up Eldar so badly they should have done an Outcasts book featuring Harlequin, Exodites, Corsairs, and possibly Rangers/Scouts. It would have been enough to justify the cost of a book (unlike a small Harlequin list).

However I do think Exodites would take at least three model kits and that's a risk considering Exodites have never been provided as a supported army before. I suspect this is not a very high priority. It would give them a chance though to produce another crazy $140 kit if they did a huge dinosaur-esque model with howdas and turrets on it. There is some excellent fluff about Exodite Eldar fighting Knight Barrons...and a battle between Knights and huge Eldar dragon rider beasts would be kind of cool.

I think the Exodites are definitely a nice avenue GW could go for modeling, and they could definitely be the source of a new campaign. It's a pretty strong fluff point since they can be aided by normal Eldar, Corsairs etc. I don't think we'll see it happen and I don't think the Exodites should be their own army (way too many small pissant armies already).

My homebrew exodite "codex" consists of readapted Rangers and repurposed Illic Nightspear as foot "spotters", outriders (mounted scout unit), proper Exodite knigts (unit finetuned for peak efficiency against T4-5 models, but poor against both hordes and targets with T6+), a mounted Worldsinger with acces to biomancy only (modified so that instead of Haemorrhage there is a weak, defensive summoning power) and a speciall character mounted on a flying dragon for AA duty (mostly because modelling opportunity and intended as Flyrant hunter). And this is IMHO as low unit count as it can meaninfully get, so that Exodites are not just a reptile mounted Shining Spears variant that could fit on a page of Eldar codex. And there should be some larger tank-like megadons also, but I personally don't dig tanks or gargantuans too much, so I never made one.

I think that the best case scenario would be boardgame someday, but I cannot imagine that GW will release a boardgame without any Imperial faction in it. And because (as Elbows said) the only mention of Exodites vs Empire in the lore involves Knight Worlds, we might actually get some Exodites in Adeptus Titanicus (same as original Eldar Pirates and not Craftworlders were a "pointy eared" faction in Battlefleert Gothic).

Damn, I remember that old Kroot Mercenaries codex. Good times. Punji Pits!

This is exactly what we need more of! I mean clearly the factions with the most possible ally choices need more allies. Otherwise whats the point right?

In case your wondering that is indeed sarcasm. I would rather GW focused on fixing the balance of the game then pushing out all these ridiculous sub armies that can barely be fielded on their own.

I'd vote for Kroot so long as they were Come The Apocalypse allies with Tau - like in the Chapter Approved list

Yep I am herexcited wanting a kroot supplement/minded. It doesn't have to be huge but like harlequins or gene stealer cults. Something that has a few unique units meant to be allied with tau. If they did this book and added a lot of units and alien auxiliaries I wouldn't be upset though. A side codex with gue'vesa , vespid, kroot, demiurg, etc

I'd like to see Chaos exodites such that I can field my AoS Chaos army with Knights and whatnot.

Eldar Exodites run around with dinosaurs, yeah?

If they made it anywhere near that old toy line called 'Dino-Riders', I would definitely make it my next army.

Yep, it could very well be Eldar Dino-Riders...lol. It would be pretty damn cool.

I would love to see Kroot Mercenaries and Exodites codexes, as both are reasonably present in the universe at large.

I would need an extremely good explanation for why you'd ever have a Custodes codex, though.

Why not both?

Board game of Kroot Warband vs Eldar Exodites, anyone?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Why not both?

Board game of Kroot Warband vs Eldar Exodites, anyone?

Definately more interesting for me than another OneColorOfPowerArmour-vs-AnotherColorOfPowerArmour game But sadly I'm in (in)significant minority here.

Please. Robed Dark Green PA vs Spiky Dark Red PA was an insipidinspired choice.

 Unusual Suspect wrote:


I would need an extremely good explanation for why you'd ever have a Custodes codex, though.

Fortunately it seems that GW does not intend to put out any larger Codices for either Custodes or Sisters of Silence, since they published two most unimaginative formations ever introduced: "get 1-3 of the same unit and your bonus is that this is legal in Battle Forged armies so we don't have to publish another Imperial microcodex."

I was kinda hoping to see GW require each squad of Custodes / Sisters to be 10 models strong, like how they fethed IG with the 5 Infantry Squad requirement for the Infantry Platoon Formation. Want the bonus for Battleforged? Pay for it!

I feel like if Exodite are ever revisited they'd get more of an "Avatar" movie vibe. While Kroot would be more like "Predators" movie vibe.

I'm a little conflicted over whether I'd want an official Exodite Codex and models.

On the one hand, Given the frankly stunning new releases for Sylvaneth I'm really excited as to what they'd release. The model design teams have really been knocking it out of the park recently with some of the less gaudy models.

On the other hand, I've just spent fething ages converting up a load of exodites and coming up with a host of fluff about them and I wouldn't want anything I'd come up with to be invalidated...

On the modelling front, I've tried to give my exodites a little of a different flavour to the typical 'dino-riding amish space elves' concept, trying to make them a little more wild and tribal. Technobarbarian elves is what I was aiming for. I've also come up with a couple of ideas for expanded fluff based on named exodite worlds and events. The link's in my sig if anyone wants a look

As regards a Kroot Codex, I think they could do a lot better than that.

How about a 'Mercenaries and Renegades' codex?

Ideas
1. Expand on Kroot units and fluff, giving them added options to represent acquired genetic traits
2. Bring back lovable RT-era units like Ork Freebootas
3. Opportunity to bring back some units from the Renegades and Heretics codex and make good the fact that they cut support for it
4. Opportunity to model some really cool looking human/xeno mercenary/renegade units
5. Opportunity to tailor the allies matrix per sub-faction (most of them allies of convenience with everyone, including other mercs, but Kroot BBs with Tau, Freebootas BB with Orks etc.)
6. No need to devise a whole unified aesthetic for a single new race. Can explore a dozen different minor aesthetics
7. Massively expands the background of the worlds at the fringes of the Imperium by giving small amounts of fluff and units for a number of different factions (Blood Pact, Kroot, Sslyth, Bhargesi, Enslavers, Tarellians, Vespid, Gue'vesa, Hrud, Exodites, Loxatl, Umbra. The opportunities are endless)