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Hello, as the title says I am a new Raven Guard player and I am in need of some help in several items. Thanks in advance!!

1. Rules - Raven Guard rules are spread from here to there and so hard to make sure I know what to get where. Does anyone have a list of what books contain Raven Guard rules? I know there is an e-book on GW's site called 'Codex: Raven Guard' but there is not a lot of info as to what is actually in the book. Any help would be great!

2. Infiltration - I am repeatedly told that this is a RG rule but I am uncertain as to where it is located to make sure. The Space Marine codex just shows Strike from the Shadows and Winged Deliverance

3. This one is odd, but is there a list somewhere of jargon used in WH 40k/30k games? Or perhaps a quick reference sheet? Often I understand due to context but I feel like this would totally help someone who is new like me.
   
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Upstate, New York

Welcome to Dakka and the Space Marines.

For the most part, all you need rules-wise is the basic Codex: Space Marines. However, there are a number of formations and extras you can use (but don’t need to). There was a warzone with Ravenguard and White Scars vs. Tau, that was broken up over a couple of books, but I think everything relevant from a rules POV was reprinted in the Angels of Death supplement. Which does have quite a number of nice things in it.

From a fluff/story POV, the RG are big on infiltrating. I know at least one of their special characters infiltrates (Shrike). But they don’t get it army-wide as far as I know.

Dakka has mouseover pop-ups for a lot of things. That will help out a little bit here. We do tend to be jargon happy as a group though, sorry about that. Don’t be afraid to ask for clarification.

   
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine




UK

Everything that is in codex Raven Guard is contained within Angels of Death, but it's slightly updated to contain a few tweaks such as Contemptor Dreadnoughts. You also get access to all the other chapter rules too. It's a much better purchase.

Raven Guard used to have Scout as part of their chapter tactics. This got removed. They do not have infiltration, I don't know why someone is telling you this. (EDIT as said above it could be because of Shrike)

Some of their formations do allow some cool outflanking manoeuvres and such, and they are a lot of fun to play. I recommend getting the Angels of Death book and reading up on it yourself.

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Gathering the Informations.

InfernoX222 wrote:
Hello, as the title says I am a new Raven Guard player and I am in need of some help in several items. Thanks in advance!!

1. Rules - Raven Guard rules are spread from here to there and so hard to make sure I know what to get where. Does anyone have a list of what books contain Raven Guard rules? I know there is an e-book on GW's site called 'Codex: Raven Guard' but there is not a lot of info as to what is actually in the book. Any help would be great!

The books containing Raven Guard rules consist of:
1) Codex: Space Marines
2) Kauyon supplement
3)Angels of Death
4) Codex: Raven Guard(I didn't know about this one before, it looks to be new)

Kauyon and Angels of Death definitely have the same material, at least in terms of the Raven Guard.
The setup for Codex: Raven Guard seems to contain the material from Kauyon(it introduced a new Detachment called "Talon Strike Force") and a mission as well.

2. Infiltration - I am repeatedly told that this is a RG rule but I am uncertain as to where it is located to make sure. The Space Marine codex just shows Strike from the Shadows and Winged Deliverance

Whoever is telling you that is incorrect.
It's something that should have been in there but wasn't.


Angels of Death isn't a bad buy, but it's going to be up to you if you want the stuff for the other Chapters and the Heresy stuff.
   
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Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator





Valencia (Spain)

The infiltration rule is the chapter tactics for the Horus Heresy Ravenguard and in other forge world books there are more special characters of the RG. To start I strong recommend to stay in the codex: space marines.
   
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Greetings, Brother Raven, and welcome to Dakka. Not much to add to the folks that already posted, but I'm really excited to have more of my Black Feathered Brethren on the forums.

As for rules and rule books, Codex Space Marines and Angels of Death have all the rules you need to be a proper Son of Corax. Add the Kauyon supplement for some interesting missions and some good ol' fashion fluff.

Infiltrate is a purely Shrike trait which he applies to the unit he attaches to (as per the recent GW FAQ). If you want it more widespread in your army I would suggest going heavy on Scouts for troops (a very fluffy choice) or take a pinion battle company for the special Outflank rule.

Victoris Aut Mortis Brother.
   
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Pete Haines





Raptors, a Ravenguard spin off, whose rules are free online from Forgeworld, do the infiltration gag better then Ravenguard, due to their special character Lias issodon whose rules are also available free online. Both chapters are very cool though and Ravenguard definitely have a few of their own things going for them.
   
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine




UK

 Bryan01 wrote:
Raptors, a Ravenguard spin off, whose rules are free online from Forgeworld, do the infiltration gag better then Ravenguard, due to their special character Lias issodon whose rules are also available free online. Both chapters are very cool though and Ravenguard definitely have a few of their own things going for them.


I'd say with the Pinion Demi Company, and the Talon Strike Force, the Raven Guard have got infiltration nailed down now. The ability to guide groups of tactical squads on from outflanking reserve is pretty sweet IMO. Coupled with the lovely ignores cover fun that the scout sergeants can pass to the tactical squads, it's double the fun. I mean there's nothing to stop Raptors taking a Pinion formation. But Lias can't join in the fun sadly.

 
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




Wow guys! Thanks for all of the fantastic info!! I ended up buying the Raven Guard eBook and it is indeed just a step up from Angels of death (compared with a friend) Now I will just need to find a copy of the Space Marine Codex and I should be good.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't a bit dismayed that we do not infiltrate but I will make it work. I was more perturbed that my Dark Furies are simply assault troops in 40k. Oh well, I will make it work.

Thanks for all of your help!
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Bryan01 wrote:
Raptors, a Ravenguard spin off, whose rules are free online from Forgeworld, do the infiltration gag better then Ravenguard, due to their special character Lias issodon whose rules are also available free online. Both chapters are very cool though and Ravenguard definitely have a few of their own things going for them.

It's worth noting that while these rules are free online, they're also horribly outdated.
   
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General





Florence, KY

InfernoX222 wrote:
I know there is an e-book on GW's site called 'Codex: Raven Guard' but there is not a lot of info as to what is actually in the book.

If you're talking about the product found HERE it does say what's included in the book:

This is not a standalone product. It requires copies of Warhammer 40,000: The Rules and Codex: Space Marines to use. The content within this book is taken from 'Mont'ka' and 'Echoes of War: Loss'

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
 
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