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 StupidYellow wrote:

Requizen wrote:

Davor wrote:
So have the rumour run it's course now since we are talking about how a Primarch should be game wise and we are not discussing rumours now?

Yeah this thread is basically over save for whining.

Nice.

I have a genuine concern 40k is going to be Primarchammer and that is whining?

fine.

I really dont want to be in a game where i can get blatted in 1 turn by my wolf, mr red, mr lion or whomever. if thats fine for you fine. good.

I hope you enjoy Primarch and friends the wargame.

S.Y.

If you honestly can look at the current game of 40k and tell me that any foot character will break the meta of Wraithknights, Deathstars, Summoning, and MSU Battle Company, I think you don't actually play the game at any sort of level to even talk about "competitive". Even if he had 20 wounds and a 2+ invuln save, FNP, Eternal Warrior and Fleet, people wouldn't use him. Unless he had D guns of his own.

And before you say "well I don't play against Wraithknights or summoning or Deathstars so that's not my problem", then you can just maybe not play against Primarchs.

The idea that the game would be "Primarchhammer" is a complete joke and totally laughable. Even if they just straight brought over FW's 30k Primarchs and halved points, people wouldn't play them in most lists.

I have been a fan of 40/30k for nearly 10 years. having lurked on this forum forever I remember seeing many many wishful comments about bringing back the primarchs. now its happening, and everyone is just complaining. you people can never be happy.

 Crimson wrote:
All this glamouring for plot advancement reminds me of White Wolf's World of Darkness RPGs. Some people were obsessed about the metaplot and demanded WW to advance the plot and bring the end times and have the antediluvians return and whatnot (instead of accepting that it is a setting and creating their own stories in it.) So eventually WW caved, the end times came, it sucked, everyone hated it. The setting was ruined and WW almost bankrupted. They rebooted the whole thing, but the new version never become nearly as popular as the old setting.

Some of the WW End times stuff was fine. It just should have been what if stuff. It wasnt. V20 sold well because it put the clock back. setting advancement needs to be handled well and i cant see GW doing this.

S.Y.

Neronoxx wrote:
Some people just don't understand what News and Rumours means.

Very true. Many posters mistakenly believe that discussion of News and Rumors on the News and Rumors section of this discussion board is somehow not allowed. Rest assured that it is not only allowed but even encouraged!

Thanks!

 Manchu wrote:

Neronoxx wrote:
Some people just don't understand what News and Rumours means.

Very true. Many posters mistakenly believe that discussion of News and Rumors on the News and Rumors section of this discussion board is somehow not allowed. Rest assured that it is not only allowed but even encouraged!

Thanks!

I think the more germane reason for locking it down was that it was proved to be a hoax a few pages ago.

 pretre wrote:
I think the more germane reason for locking it down was that it was proved to be a hoax a few pages ago.

That would be a good reason. If the subject of a N&R thread proves to be a hoax, the way to get it locked is by pushing the mod alert on the post that proves the news and/or rumor is a hoax or otherwise link that post to a moderator. The moderators will then decide whether that proof is dispositive and, if so, lock the thread.

Requizen wrote:

 StupidYellow wrote:

Requizen wrote:

Davor wrote:
So have the rumour run it's course now since we are talking about how a Primarch should be game wise and we are not discussing rumours now?

Yeah this thread is basically over save for whining.

Nice.

I have a genuine concern 40k is going to be Primarchammer and that is whining?

fine.

I really dont want to be in a game where i can get blatted in 1 turn by my wolf, mr red, mr lion or whomever. if thats fine for you fine. good.

I hope you enjoy Primarch and friends the wargame.

S.Y.

If you honestly can look at the current game of 40k and tell me that any foot character will break the meta of Wraithknights, Deathstars, Summoning, and MSU Battle Company, I think you don't actually play the game at any sort of level to even talk about "competitive". Even if he had 20 wounds and a 2+ invuln save, FNP, Eternal Warrior and Fleet, people wouldn't use him. Unless he had D guns of his own.

And before you say "well I don't play against Wraithknights or summoning or Deathstars so that's not my problem", then you can just maybe not play against Primarchs.

The idea that the game would be "Primarchhammer" is a complete joke and totally laughable. Even if they just straight brought over FW's 30k Primarchs and halved points, people wouldn't play them in most lists.

I play against all those things, they can be counterd. Yes I can say without a doubt that a Primarch level character will break the meta, not only fluff wise but game wise . You did know 2nd was herohammer right? that the reason 3rd was such a jump that profiles got moved about, Movement lost, We just, Just got Overwatch back. Heroes lost their bite.

To bring just one of those characters back is madness for regular play. Apoc, fine do whatever, EPIC okay good, you have different counters.


You have this 8 wound guy that basically auto hits, auto wounds anything you point him at and that is not broken? how? when a character is front and center in plot, why take anything else, Characters already don't need permission to use. even if he gets killed somehow oh wait IWnD plus some other uber rule.

I can say oh I don't play against Primarchs but thats a little mean to the other guy/gal who spent the time painting and assembling his/her stuff, and I'm not going to do that. I play against anything 30k vs 40k even if its a little one sided. I could stop playing but I have already lost 50% thanks to AoS

the fact you find it laughable is interesting. Epic is bleeding into 40k which you can counter. just. 30k i win buttons is too much.

S.Y.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Checked on Adeptus Astartes and he posted this, is this where the rumour came from? I dunno what im supposed to believe.



Shame, was really liking those rumours.

I think we'll wait and see then.