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Your insult aside ("if I knew I had friends like that, I would have carried a gun") I predate education. Its not my fault you're not educated on the Biblical tale of how Jebus brought queso to the Heathen.

 Frazzled wrote:
Your insult aside ("if I knew I had friends like that, I would have carried a gun") I predate education. Its not my fault you're not educated on the Biblical tale of how Jebus brought queso to the Heathen.

I'm starting to think you might not be serious, but it's difficult to tell.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Your insult aside ("if I knew I had friends like that, I would have carried a gun") I predate education. Its not my fault you're not educated on the Biblical tale of how Jebus brought queso to the Heathen.

I'm starting to think you might not be serious, but it's difficult to tell.

Being a Texan is serious business. After all, Dog created Texas to train the Faithful.

Now to the topic, so if I don't use whatever pronoun you demand, can I or can I not be fined or face some sort of imprisonment under this rule?
What if I just ignore the whole thing and call you "dude?"

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Your insult aside ("if I knew I had friends like that, I would have carried a gun") I predate education. Its not my fault you're not educated on the Biblical tale of how Jebus brought queso to the Heathen.

I'm starting to think you might not be serious, but it's difficult to tell.

Frazzled is very rarely coherent.

Frazzled we've talked about the alcohol, please stop.

 MrDwhitey wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Your insult aside ("if I knew I had friends like that, I would have carried a gun") I predate education. Its not my fault you're not educated on the Biblical tale of how Jebus brought queso to the Heathen.

I'm starting to think you might not be serious, but it's difficult to tell.

Frazzled is very rarely coherent.

Frazzled we've talked about the alcohol, please stop.

S'okay, I've been awake since.

:: checks computer ::

Saturday. So my own cognitive skills aren't functioning very well.

Frazzled we've talked about the alcohol, please stop.

Hey babies love bars what can I say.
So I didn't win my division this week, but I did win the stage named: "coffee time II." I find that reassuringly appropriate.

Again to the topic, can I be fined or imprisoned if I refuse to use whatever pronoun is demanded?

Wait you've been up since Saturday? Yikes

 Frazzled wrote:
Again to the topic, can I be fined or imprisoned if I refuse to use whatever pronoun is demanded?

No.

Also you don't have to come to Canada, and so long as you stay outside the country our laws don't really affect you.

Wait you've been up since Saturday? Yikes

It's not that unusual.

Actually I do have to occasionally go to Canada, and I would be disturbed if I can't call everyone Canuck.

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually I do have to occasionally go to Canada, and I would be disturbed if I can't call everyone Canuck.

Have you considered simply getting over your discomfort and just calling people what they want to be called without making a big deal out of it?

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually I do have to occasionally go to Canada, and I would be disturbed if I can't call everyone Canuck.

Easy... If they give you lip about being called Canuck, clearly they identify as more feminine, so you'd call them Crosby




In all seriousness, I think Canada is doing a generally good thing. I am not sure how everything can, or will be enforced, but having a written law that one can refer to in discrimination cases is better than saying "well, this law over here implies coverage"

 Pouncey wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
In Canada, we are very, very glad we are not America.

In fact, "acting like Americans" is a rather negative thing to say up here.

Mighty talk from a bunch of Maple Syrup lovers. Besides, what's with the beef? Canada and America have always been on good terms, and in fact, are pretty damn similar on most issues. Michigan is basically South Canada as much as Toronto is New Michigan.

We're on good terms, yes, and no one wants to change that.

We just really don't want to be you.

That's okay, we don't really want to be overly nice hockey nuts drinking overhyped Tim Horton's. Least America is known for more than hockey, maple syrup, and a Dunkin Donuts rip off.

 jreilly89 wrote:
That's okay, we don't really want to be overly nice hockey nuts drinking overhyped Tim Horton's. Least America is known for more than hockey, maple syrup, and a Dunkin Donuts rip off.

Canada's also well-known for being a very tolerant and freedom-loving country.

And polite.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually I do have to occasionally go to Canada, and I would be disturbed if I can't call everyone Canuck.

Have you considered simply getting over your discomfort and just calling people what they want to be called without making a big deal out of it?

Of course not:
1. I have no short term memory.
2. How can I say "Hey Canuck, don't forget your Took!" in an overly exaggerated Southern drawl if I can't say Canuck? They love it, and I would hate to disappoint them.

In all seriousness, I think Canada is doing a generally good thing. I am not sure how everything can, or will be enforced, but having a written law that one can refer to in discrimination cases is better than saying "well, this law over here implies coverage"

I have no problems if they want to add them as a protected class, actually. My question really is about this pronoun thing, and freedom of speech.

And hey don't mess with Tim Horton's. I love their maple glazed donuts.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually I do have to occasionally go to Canada, and I would be disturbed if I can't call everyone Canuck.

Have you considered simply getting over your discomfort and just calling people what they want to be called without making a big deal out of it?

Of course not:
1. I have no short term memory.
2. How can I say "Hey Canuck, don't forget your Took!" in an overly exaggerated Southern drawl if I can't say Canuck? They love it, and I would hate to disappoint them.

To be clear, we like watching Americans make fools of themselves. It amuses us.

 Pouncey wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
That's okay, we don't really want to be overly nice hockey nuts drinking overhyped Tim Horton's. Least America is known for more than hockey, maple syrup, and a Dunkin Donuts rip off.

Canada's also well-known for being a very tolerant and freedom-loving country.

And polite.

You sure? Cuz stuff like this:

To be clear, we like watching Americans make fools of themselves. It amuses us.

Ain't really proving it. Americans are the ones known for randomly insulting other countries.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
That's okay, we don't really want to be overly nice hockey nuts drinking overhyped Tim Horton's. Least America is known for more than hockey, maple syrup, and a Dunkin Donuts rip off.

Canada's also well-known for being a very tolerant and freedom-loving country.

And polite.

You sure? Cuz stuff like this:

To be clear, we like watching Americans make fools of themselves. It amuses us.

Ain't really proving it. Americans are the ones known for randomly insulting other countries.

Eh, it's like teasing your big dumb cousin at the Xmas dinner. It's done with love.

Again, this trivial non-issue (adding transpersons to the list of protected classes) is really a smokescreen to distract us from the actual, terrible things the Trudeau government is doing. Like continuing the selling of public assets to private hands.

Again, this trivial non-issue (adding transpersons to the list of protected classes) is really a smokescreen to distract us from the actual, terrible things the Trudeau government is doing. Like continuing the selling of public assets to private hands.

There's a good argument to be made for your point.

 jreilly89 wrote:

To be clear, we like watching Americans make fools of themselves. It amuses us.

Ain't really proving it. Americans are the ones known for randomly insulting other countries.

I mean that Rick Mercer had a popular comedy show a decade or two ago called Talking to Americans.


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 feeder wrote:
Eh, it's like teasing your big dumb cousin at the Xmas dinner. It's done with love.

Again, this trivial non-issue (adding transpersons to the list of protected classes) is really a smokescreen to distract us from the actual, terrible things the Trudeau government is doing. Like continuing the selling of public assets to private hands.

Smokescreen?

The House of Commons passed a bill, from my understanding. Then people freaked out about it.

Passing legislation isn't a smokescreen, it's what our government does.

Also, I thought the big thing on the news was Trudeau doing fundraisers where he lets diplomats from other countries talk to him for a while. Cash-for-Access or something like that.

Been watching CinemaSins on YouTube for a while though. Maybe that's a new thing.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually I do have to occasionally go to Canada, and I would be disturbed if I can't call everyone Canuck.

Have you considered simply getting over your discomfort and just calling people what they want to be called without making a big deal out of it?

Of course not:
1. I have no short term memory.
2. How can I say "Hey Canuck, don't forget your Took!" in an overly exaggerated Southern drawl if I can't say Canuck? They love it, and I would hate to disappoint them.

To be clear, we like watching Americans make fools of themselves. It amuses us.

You must be one of the eastern urbanites that my friends in the western Provinces like to talk crap about.


And from my personal experience, many folks from the western/rural regions of Canada are (on average) no different than the average American. It's the ones from the big cities (and leftist bastions of Trudeau worship) like Toronto, Windsor, Ottawa, and Montreal that tend to have that smug, self-righteous attitude toward their neighbors to the south. There are exceptions. But they are few and far between.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
"Chastised" is an interesting word when its the government doing the chastising.

Maybe you should read the article more closely.

Well in the US we have the First Amendment which protects us in this area. But your argument is essentially saying we'll quit beating you if you do what we say.

In Canada, we are very, very glad we are not America.

In fact, "acting like Americans" is a rather negative thing to say up here.

That feeling is quite mutual, our racists could learn alot from canada on how to oppress folks, you guys are top notch.

 thekingofkings wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
"Chastised" is an interesting word when its the government doing the chastising.

Maybe you should read the article more closely.

Well in the US we have the First Amendment which protects us in this area. But your argument is essentially saying we'll quit beating you if you do what we say.

In Canada, we are very, very glad we are not America.

In fact, "acting like Americans" is a rather negative thing to say up here.

That feeling is quite mutual, our racists could learn alot from canada on how to oppress folks, you guys are top notch.

This is true. There are swathes of Canada that are as pig-ignorant as any stereotypical southern racist redneck trope.

 feeder wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
"Chastised" is an interesting word when its the government doing the chastising.

Maybe you should read the article more closely.

Well in the US we have the First Amendment which protects us in this area. But your argument is essentially saying we'll quit beating you if you do what we say.

In Canada, we are very, very glad we are not America.

In fact, "acting like Americans" is a rather negative thing to say up here.

That feeling is quite mutual, our racists could learn alot from canada on how to oppress folks, you guys are top notch.

This is true. There are swathes of Canada that are as pig-ignorant as any stereotypical southern racist redneck trope.

I served with a Metis for about 4 years.

 feeder wrote:
This is true. There are swathes of Canada that are as pig-ignorant as any stereotypical southern racist redneck trope.

I don't think any country is entirely free of bigots.

 Pouncey wrote:

 feeder wrote:
This is true. There are swathes of Canada that are as pig-ignorant as any stereotypical southern racist redneck trope.

I don't think any country is entirely free of bigots.

Yah know, you really dont hear much out of Namibia...or Botswana....

 Pouncey wrote:

 feeder wrote:
This is true. There are swathes of Canada that are as pig-ignorant as any stereotypical southern racist redneck trope.

I don't think any country is entirely free of bigots.

No, you're right, but the current race for the Con leadership is showing there are an awful lot more gakky racists in Canada, too. More than I thought.

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually I do have to occasionally go to Canada, and I would be disturbed if I can't call everyone Canuck.

Have you considered simply getting over your discomfort and just calling people what they want to be called without making a big deal out of it?

Of course not:
1. I have no short term memory.
2. How can I say "Hey Canuck, don't forget your Took!" in an overly exaggerated Southern drawl if I can't say Canuck? They love it, and I would hate to disappoint them.

To be clear, we like watching Americans make fools of themselves. It amuses us.

You must be one of the eastern urbanites that my friends in the western Provinces like to talk crap about.


And from my personal experience, many folks from the western/rural regions of Canada are (on average) no different than the average American. It's the ones from the big cities (and leftist bastions of Trudeau worship) like Toronto, Windsor, Ottawa, and Montreal that tend to have that smug, self-righteous attitude toward their neighbors to the south. There are exceptions. But they are few and far between.

Add Vancouver and you've covered about 70% of Canada's population.

As a rule, it is very much part of a Canadian's cultural and political identity that he is not an American.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually I do have to occasionally go to Canada, and I would be disturbed if I can't call everyone Canuck.

Have you considered simply getting over your discomfort and just calling people what they want to be called without making a big deal out of it?

Of course not:
1. I have no short term memory.
2. How can I say "Hey Canuck, don't forget your Took!" in an overly exaggerated Southern drawl if I can't say Canuck? They love it, and I would hate to disappoint them.

To be clear, we like watching Americans make fools of themselves. It amuses us.

You must be one of the eastern urbanites that my friends in the western Provinces like to talk crap about.


And from my personal experience, many folks from the western/rural regions of Canada are (on average) no different than the average American. It's the ones from the big cities (and leftist bastions of Trudeau worship) like Toronto, Windsor, Ottawa, and Montreal that tend to have that smug, self-righteous attitude toward their neighbors to the south. There are exceptions. But they are few and far between.

Add Vancouver and you've covered about 70% of Canada's population.

As a rule, it is very much part of a Canadian's cultural and political identity that he is not an American.

And, in Canada, Trudeau is not left. He's centre-right.

 feeder wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 feeder wrote:
This is true. There are swathes of Canada that are as pig-ignorant as any stereotypical southern racist redneck trope.

I don't think any country is entirely free of bigots.

No, you're right, but the current race for the Con leadership is showing there are an awful lot more gakky racists in Canada, too. More than I thought.

I think Trump's election emboldened them.

 Pouncey wrote:

 feeder wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 feeder wrote:
This is true. There are swathes of Canada that are as pig-ignorant as any stereotypical southern racist redneck trope.

I don't think any country is entirely free of bigots.

No, you're right, but the current race for the Con leadership is showing there are an awful lot more gakky racists in Canada, too. More than I thought.

I think Trump's election emboldened them.

There has always been a very strident anti-native racism found in WASP Canada. Any French-Canadian doing the mandatory early 20s trip out West will realize that a non-negligible portion of Canada's Anglo population just fething hate us. I lived in Alberta for about 4 years, and the most common slur I heard was to call someone a jew. I have never met a single jewish person while in Alberta.

There is a lot of racism in Canadian culture. Pouncey's view that we are an open-minded, peace-loving country doesn't really reflect anything except a form of self-delusion.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 feeder wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 feeder wrote:
This is true. There are swathes of Canada that are as pig-ignorant as any stereotypical southern racist redneck trope.

I don't think any country is entirely free of bigots.

No, you're right, but the current race for the Con leadership is showing there are an awful lot more gakky racists in Canada, too. More than I thought.

I think Trump's election emboldened them.

There has always been a very strident anti-native racism found in WASP Canada. Any French-Canadian doing the mandatory early 20s trip out West will realize that a non-negligible portion of Canada's Anglo population just fething hate us. I lived in Alberta for about 4 years, and the most common slur I heard was to call someone a jew. I have never met a single jewish person while in Alberta.

There is a lot of racism in Canadian culture. Pouncey's view that we are an open-minded, peace-loving country doesn't really reflect anything except a form of self-delusion.

Believe me, I am well aware that many of my fellow Canadians are quite racist against First Nations people. I made a thread on the Overwatch forums suggesting that the inevitable Canadian hero be a First Nations person, as there was a lot of unexplored culture and history there that the developers could make use of. I am a fan of Gaijin Goombah on YouTube, so I knew that Blizzard was capable of treating the subject with respect and subtlety. After explaining to the baffled Americans what "First Nations" means and enduring the usual stereotypes of hockey, maple syrup and lumberjacks, one of my fellow Canadians saw fit to chime in. He was quite racist toward the First Nations.

It's also worth noting that I'm not delusional, I simply don't get out much and the few people I am around are not racists. I may not have a good grasp on Canadian culture though, as I spend most of my time online around Americans in online video games, so the topic of the First Nations people doesn't come up much..

Hearing about the genocide going on in Canada was shocking. I couldn't believe that that kind of thing was happening here. As in, I literally didn't believe it at first and thought the first person informing me of it was exaggerating extraordinarily. Then the news started doing stories on it.

I lived in Quebec for over 25 years. Currently I live just outside of Ottawa in a quiet suburb. And like I said, I don't socialize much in real life. So I didn't know. But I see now. Yes. Canada does in fact have plenty of racists. You have made that abundantly clear.