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I'm pretty hopeful for this one. Last of Us is one of the very best games I have ever played.
Looks like a late 2017 release (2018 more likely I'll bet.)
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
I had a 360 previously and so had not played TLOU until I got the PS4 re-release. It's almost worth it for the improved graphics alone, especially if you didn't get the DLC the first time around.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Trondheim wrote: Meh not keen on this, if I ever find it in a discount bin I may consider it
Too busy pining for the fjords?
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Trondheim wrote: Meh not keen on this, if I ever find it in a discount bin I may consider it
Too busy pining for the fjords?
No, because the first game was as intresting as watching paint dry.
And why no, I live a stone throw away from the sea. And before you launch into some rambeling sterotype about Vikings and what not, I dont wait for the raiding season, nor do I own a helmet with horns on
@ Jreilly89 : Bloodborn was fun the first time, not so afterwards but still a good game. Until dawn was decent enough
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I'm not going to go into Viking stereotypes, I'm just going to say that you haven't got a soul and if you thought Last of Us was boring then you really missed out on what was one of the greatest games of the last ten years.
Also I actually do need a PS4 so I can finish my Dark Souls quest, 2 down 2 to go. Never looked at Until Dawn though. I've heard of it though.
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No, because the first game was as intresting as watching paint dry.
To each their own, but I don't understand how one could arrive at this conclusion. Did you actually play the game?
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
No, because the first game was as intresting as watching paint dry.
To each their own, but I don't understand how one could arrive at this conclusion. Did you actually play the game?
Yes I had the misfortune of playing it, wasted a few hours on it. Promply returned the game and got my money back. I disliked the setting, the characthers and the whole game.
I am beyond hyped for this. I love the last line of the trailer so much
TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
Given that Ellie looks quite a few years older in that trailer, I'd say Joel is pushing 60 now.
Not a lot of pensioners in the post-cordyceps wasteland.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Yes I had the misfortune of playing it, wasted a few hours on it. Promply returned the game and got my money back. I disliked the setting, the characthers and the whole game.
Was it the linear nature of the game? Forgive me for asking, because I loved this game and played the gak out of it. Of all the complaints I've ever heard about it, boring is not one of them.
No, because the first game was as intresting as watching paint dry.
To each their own, but I don't understand how one could arrive at this conclusion. Did you actually play the game?
Yes I had the misfortune of playing it, wasted a few hours on it. Promply returned the game and got my money back. I disliked the setting, the characthers and the whole game.
that means no lol, game mechanics wise, it was pretty standard, where it shines is the story, you should give it a proper chance.
No, because the first game was as intresting as watching paint dry.
To each their own, but I don't understand how one could arrive at this conclusion. Did you actually play the game?
Yes I had the misfortune of playing it, wasted a few hours on it. Promply returned the game and got my money back. I disliked the setting, the characthers and the whole game.
that means no lol, game mechanics wise, it was pretty standard, where it shines is the story, you should give it a proper chance.
The story was not anything that I would even lable as standard, it was taxing and not the slightest entertaing for my part in any shape or form. The only thing that gave me any amount of enjoyment with this game was when I got my coin back after returning it
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The story was not anything that I would even lable as standard,
I agree with you here. The story was interesting, moving and even plausible (for a zombie survival game). It was not standard.
it was taxing and not the slightest entertaing for my part in any shape or form.
Ya lost me. Taxing and not entertaining? Maybe it was giving you the feels and that scared you off?
The only thing that gave me any amount of enjoyment with this game was when I got my coin back after returning it
Well, at least you got some measure of satisfaction.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
The story was not anything that I would even lable as standard,
I agree with you here. The story was interesting, moving and even plausible (for a zombie survival game). It was not standard.
it was taxing and not the slightest entertaing for my part in any shape or form.
Ya lost me. Taxing and not entertaining? Maybe it was giving you the feels and that scared you off?
The only thing that gave me any amount of enjoyment with this game was when I got my coin back after returning it
Well, at least you got some measure of satisfaction.
If the game had managed to bring some sembelance of emotion from me, with its rather lacking and paper thin story I would have been impressed, And I would not be ashamed to admit it had it been the case. Also I woul advise you to lay of the attemps at poking fun of someone, while you are certainly free to hint at that I am afraid of feelings and that whole specter of experiences I would rather have you toss that at me by PM.
The story was not anything that I would even lable as standard,
I agree with you here. The story was interesting, moving and even plausible (for a zombie survival game). It was not standard.
it was taxing and not the slightest entertaing for my part in any shape or form.
Ya lost me. Taxing and not entertaining? Maybe it was giving you the feels and that scared you off?
The only thing that gave me any amount of enjoyment with this game was when I got my coin back after returning it
Well, at least you got some measure of satisfaction.
If the game had managed to bring some sembelance of emotion from me, with its rather lacking and paper thin story I would have been impressed, And I would not be ashamed to admit it had it been the case. Also I woul advise you to lay of the attemps at poking fun of someone, while you are certainly free to hint at that I am afraid of feelings and that whole specter of experiences I would rather have you toss that at me by PM.
Alright, mate, I'm just chatting here. I'll drop the subject. You are the only person I've talked to who wouldn't rate this game at least a 7or 8 out of 10 though, that's all.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Never really liked Uncharted and subsequently The Last of Us' combat - always found it to be insanely frustrating, with a distinct lack of being able to learn from my mistakes like I would in most games similar to such titles. It also suffered from being a PS exclusive - an inferior control mechanism does not help in a game where ammo is incredibly limited, and headshots on fast moving, unpredictable targets can mean the difference between life and death in a fight.
Certainly not a 10/10 game for me. However, I stuck through the sub par gameplay for the great story, and those few times where the level design made the fights much less full of bull cheap deaths (mostly fighting the bandit factions).
Will happily buy The Last of Us part 2, but I already dislike all this insane hype surrounding the game. More power to you if you enjoyed the first game more than I did, but people need to stop setting expectations higher than they already are before we've even seen screenshots of the game.
feeder wrote: Alright, mate, I'm just chatting here. I'll drop the subject. You are the only person I've talked to who wouldn't rate this game at least a 7or 8 out of 10 though, that's all.
Scores are just subjective numbers that have relatively no meaning unless they're broken down. But for the record, I'll break down The Last of Us on a score system:
Story - 9/10. We don't need to discuss this one in depth, but it had a heart moving start, an action packed middle, and an even more feels inducing end. Most certainly on par with a storyline like Season 1 of Telltale's The Walking Dead.
Gameplay - 4/10. Sub par at best; while there are many interesting mechanics and limitations in the game, such as listening out for targets, crafting and scavenging, and even a lack of ammo necessitating alternate playstyles throughout, both ranged and melee combat are poor. Aiming feels rather stiff, and melee still feels much like the Uncharted games: unresponsive and dull, as you'll frequently throw a punch into mid air despite being right next to your target, or you just mash square till you kill your enemy. Even a two button system like Space Marine would have made this a lot better (and no, pressing triangle at a scripted time in melee does not constitute for a two button system). Also ranged enemy AI seems to range from bumbling morons who take cover in the wrong direction or stand out in the open pelting your cover to pinpoint accurate super assassins who end up killing you over and over. Again, a problem with Uncharted's combat carried over.
Puzzles and platforming are fine, though there is nothing major to report there. Scavenging is also fine, and can become interesting when you're forced to make a choice between two items, and you don't have enough ingredients to make both.
Also locked at 30FPS, although if you played the Remastered Edition, they upped it to 60.
Visuals (For original version, not Remastered) - 8/10. Great and diverse environments, a vibrant colour palette, and overall brilliant graphical fidelity. Animation quality is also pretty top notch - outside of combat at least, I felt like I was really in control of Noel/Ellie, with their movements being so natural.
Multiplayer - meant to play this, but never got round to it. Because I haven't touched it though, it can't really affect my score either way, since I didn't buy it for the multiplayer anyway.
Overall then, it's a "I mean, it's pretty great, but 365 game awards guys?"/10
G.A
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General Annoyance wrote: Never really liked Uncharted and subsequently The Last of Us' combat - always found it to be insanely frustrating, with a distinct lack of being able to learn from my mistakes like I would in most games similar to such titles. It also suffered from being a PS exclusive - an inferior control mechanism does not help in a game where ammo is incredibly limited, and headshots on fast moving, unpredictable targets can mean the difference between life and death in a fight.
Certainly not a 10/10 game for me. However, I stuck through the sub par gameplay for the great story, and those few times where the level design made the fights much less full of bull cheap deaths (mostly fighting the bandit factions).
Will happily buy The Last of Us part 2, but I already dislike all this insane hype surrounding the game. More power to you if you enjoyed the first game more than I did, but people need to stop setting expectations higher than they already are before we've even seen screenshots of the game.
feeder wrote: Alright, mate, I'm just chatting here. I'll drop the subject. You are the only person I've talked to who wouldn't rate this game at least a 7or 8 out of 10 though, that's all.
Scores are just subjective numbers that have relatively no meaning unless they're broken down. But for the record, I'll break down The Last of Us on a score system:
Story - 9/10. We don't need to discuss this one in depth, but it had a heart moving start, an action packed middle, and an even more feels inducing end. Most certainly on par with a storyline like Season 1 of Telltale's The Walking Dead.
Gameplay - 4/10. Sub par at best; while there are many interesting mechanics and limitations in the game, such as listening out for targets, crafting and scavenging, and even a lack of ammo necessitating alternate playstyles throughout, both ranged and melee combat are poor. Aiming feels rather stiff, and melee still feels much like the Uncharted games: unresponsive and dull, as you'll frequently throw a punch into mid air despite being right next to your target, or you just mash square till you kill your enemy. Even a two button system like Space Marine would have made this a lot better (and no, pressing triangle at a scripted time in melee does not constitute for a two button system). Also ranged enemy AI seems to range from bumbling morons who take cover in the wrong direction or stand out in the open pelting your cover to pinpoint accurate super assassins who end up killing you over and over. Again, a problem with Uncharted's combat carried over.
Puzzles and platforming are fine, though there is nothing major to report there. Scavenging is also fine, and can become interesting when you're forced to make a choice between two items, and you don't have enough ingredients to make both.
Also locked at 30FPS, although if you played the Remastered Edition, they upped it to 60.
Visuals (For original version, not Remastered) - 8/10. Great and diverse environments, a vibrant colour palette, and overall brilliant graphical fidelity. Animation quality is also pretty top notch - outside of combat at least, I felt like I was really in control of Noel/Ellie, with their movements being so natural.
Multiplayer - meant to play this, but never got round to it. Because I haven't touched it though, it can't really affect my score either way, since I didn't buy it for the multiplayer anyway.
Overall then, it's a "I mean, it's pretty great, but 365 game awards guys?"/10
G.A
Thanks for taking the time to break it down. I never played the PS3 version, so perhaps that coloured my opinion a bit.
I never had an issue with the combat, sure there's no auto aim but I didn't have much problems dropping the foes that I had to face.
The lack of ammo/items was a plus for me, I really felt like I was struggling to survive in a wasteland, not an untouchable god among men like most other post-fall games I've played (Fallout, Mad Max).
(for the record, your break down gives TLOU a 7/10 )
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Thanks for taking the time to break it down. I never played the PS3 version, so perhaps that coloured my opinion a bit.
The Remastered Edition is certainly the superior version, mainly due to the upgrade from 30 to 60FPS. Makes a massive difference in a 3rd person shooter/fighter.
I never had an issue with the combat, sure there's no auto aim but I didn't have much problems dropping the foes that I had to face.
The lack of ammo/items was a plus for me, I really felt like I was struggling to survive in a wasteland, not an untouchable god among men like most other post-fall games I've played (Fallout, Mad Max).
This was also a positive for me, for the same reasons, unfortunately drowned out by poor controls. At least if I was playing on a PC, I'd have a lot more control over this. I say this as someone who certainly isn't your Overwatch team's Widowmaker main, but who has a lot more trigger discipline than your average gamer.
(for the record, your break down gives TLOU a 7/10 )
General Annoyance wrote: Never really liked Uncharted and subsequently The Last of Us' combat - always found it to be insanely frustrating, with a distinct lack of being able to learn from my mistakes like I would in most games similar to such titles. It also suffered from being a PS exclusive - an inferior control mechanism does not help in a game where ammo is incredibly limited, and headshots on fast moving, unpredictable targets can mean the difference between life and death in a fight.
Certainly not a 10/10 game for me. However, I stuck through the sub par gameplay for the great story, and those few times where the level design made the fights much less full of bull cheap deaths (mostly fighting the bandit factions).
Will happily buy The Last of Us part 2, but I already dislike all this insane hype surrounding the game. More power to you if you enjoyed the first game more than I did, but people need to stop setting expectations higher than they already are before we've even seen screenshots of the game.
Not to be nit picky, but the insane hype exists for a reason. Barring some outliers, TLoU was a smash hit, with superb combat, story and emotion. This is not a dig at you, I know not everyone loves the same thing, but everyone I've talked to loves TLoU and rate it at least a 9/10. After the Uncharted series and TLoU, especially with how they did Uncharted 4, for me Naughty Dog is on par with From Software and Bethesda for "Companies I have absolute faith in and will buy their games Day 1".
Thanks for taking the time to break it down. I never played the PS3 version, so perhaps that coloured my opinion a bit.
The Remastered Edition is certainly the superior version, mainly due to the upgrade from 30 to 60FPS. Makes a massive difference in a 3rd person shooter/fighter.
I think you're overstating the FPS thing. I've played through the PS3 version around 5 times, the PS4 version 1.5, and FPS was never a problem for me. Besides, the human eye can't see 60 FPS
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The Last of Us was hands down the most entertaining videos game that I have ever played. I can understand if others feel differently. I am really looking forward to the sequel.
Is Ellie wearing the same shirt Joel wore when he 'rescued' her from the Fireflies?
Is Ellie wearing the same shirt Joel wore when he 'rescued' her from the Fireflies?
Hmm, that could be. It's a pretty generic shirt though.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
jreilly89 wrote: Not to be nit picky, but the insane hype exists for a reason. Barring some outliers, TLoU was a smash hit, with superb combat, story and emotion. This is not a dig at you, I know not everyone loves the same thing, but everyone I've talked to loves TLoU and rate it at least a 9/10. After the Uncharted series and TLoU, especially with how they did Uncharted 4, for me Naughty Dog is on par with From Software and Bethesda for "Companies I have absolute faith in and will buy their games Day 1".
Hype is never something that should be taken in good faith. No matter how much you may have enjoyed a previous game or are looking forward to a whole new IP, sizing up the game and setting unrealistic expectations will only lead to unsatisfied purchases, further community divides and downright hatred as the manchildren (I say that with as straight a face as possible) of the gaming community start their death threat crusades both against game developers and other gamers.
Or, people are forced into defending their purchases because they hyped up the game before its release. Also results in online abuse. Both of these behaviours can be seen if you'd like to visit any forum discussing No Man's Sky at length.
By all means look forward to what a game might have in store - I'm very much interested in what The Last of Us Part 2 might have in store, and actually want it to do as well as it did last time; there's no pleasure to take in not liking a game as much as other people, unless you are completely against the concept the game is trying to create (i.e. you don't want 3rd person action games to exist). People shouldn't be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, nor should people in the majority consider outsiders to be simply contrarians.
And Bethesda, really? If I were to ever give a piece of advice to a gamer, it would be to never ever buy a Bethesda game on day one due to how shoddy and broken they are on release; hell, years after Fallout: New Vegas was released, I ended up trapping my character in Zion Valley forever because there was a bug in the PS3 version that made a main quest vital building have no floor at all when you stepped in it, meaning you would infinitely plummet and respawn at the door until you left. Thank god the PS3 wasn't my only option for playing that game.
Plus Fallout 4 was a letdown for me both as a RPG and me being a massive Fallout fan, but that's a story for another thread I guess. I think the last From Software game I bought was Armoured Core: For Answer
I think you're overstating the FPS thing. I've played through the PS3 version around 5 times, the PS4 version 1.5, and FPS was never a problem for me. Besides, the human eye can't see 60 FPS
In some games it makes less difference than others. In a 3rd person shooter, there will be an immensely noticeable difference in terms of both visual pleasantries and gameplay responsiveness.
G.A
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Hype is never something that should be taken in good faith. No matter how much you may have enjoyed a previous game or are looking forward to a whole new IP, sizing up the game and setting unrealistic expectations will only lead to unsatisfied purchases, further community divides and downright hatred as the manchildren (I say that with as straight a face as possible) of the gaming community start their death threat crusades both against game developers and other gamers.
I'm not setting unrealistic expectations. Notice how I only said companies that have earned my trust, I.E. I've bought their previous games and loved them.
Or, people are forced into defending their purchases because they hyped up the game before its release. Also results in online abuse. Both of these behaviours can be seen if you'd like to visit any forum discussing No Man's Sky at length.
By all means look forward to what a game might have in store - I'm very much interested in what The Last of Us Part 2 might have in store, and actually want it to do as well as it did last time; there's no pleasure to take in not liking a game as much as other people, unless you are completely against the concept the game is trying to create (i.e. you don't want 3rd person action games to exist). People shouldn't be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, nor should people in the majority consider outsiders to be simply contrarians.
Or people should be allowed to like what they want and be as excited as they want to be. There is no mandated level of excitement here. And No Man's Sky was a whole different debacle by a new company, not a trusted one like Naughty Dog.
And Bethesda, really? If I were to ever give a piece of advice to a gamer, it would be to never ever buy a Bethesda game on day one due to how shoddy and broken they are on release; hell, years after Fallout: New Vegas was released, I ended up trapping my character in Zion Valley forever because there was a bug in the PS3 version that made a main quest vital building have no floor at all when you stepped in it, meaning you would infinitely plummet and respawn at the door until you left. Thank god the PS3 wasn't my only option for playing that game.
Plus Fallout 4 was a letdown for me both as a RPG and me being a massive Fallout fan, but that's a story for another thread I guess. I think the last From Software game I bought was Armoured Core: For Answer
Congrats? I've never played a Bethesda game and not liked it. I accept them for what they are, buggy messes that are a blast and have a massive open world.
I think you're overstating the FPS thing. I've played through the PS3 version around 5 times, the PS4 version 1.5, and FPS was never a problem for me. Besides, the human eye can't see 60 FPS
In some games it makes less difference than others. In a 3rd person shooter, there will be an immensely noticeable difference in terms of both visual pleasantries and gameplay responsiveness.
G.A
The 60 FPS thing was a joke, sorry if it didn't come across that way. Sure, in most 3rd person shooters it's a problem, but I've played through TLoU and the Remastered and had no discernable difference in plays. Maybe if I played them in reverse (Remastered and TLoU) I might've noticed the difference, but that's downright silly to do.
Feth that. I've just installed Playstation Now on my PC so I can play TLoU 1. Might have to wait a year or two, but I expect the 2nd game will be available on PC sooner or later too and I'll quite happily wait.
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Trondheim wrote: And why no, I live a stone throw away from the sea. And before you launch into some rambeling sterotype about Vikings and what not, I dont wait for the raiding season, nor do I own a helmet with horns on
So you're one of the boring Vikings then? The one who stays behind and tends his farm.
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While I can get that not everyone enjoys the Last of Us, as a game it checks off most if not all of the marks for a good game. A lengthy but not drawn out story that makes you actually care about the characters, with decent combat (you really should be playing at least on hard difficulty to get the survival experience) and a good setting. Then you have the great amount of detail put into the artistic and graphical design of the game that ties all these in together to make something far greater than the sum of its parts.
Still find it boring? I'm guessing you haven't played the multiplayer which is not a tacked on part as you would assume and is actually one of the things that really adds to its longevity given how intense some matches can be, particularly in survivors and you're the last man standing.
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cheap deaths (mostly fighting the bandit factions).
