The Last of Us 2 Teaser Trailer

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**welshhoppo**

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
welshhoppo wrote:
Finally, a good reason to buy a ps4.

Feth that. I've just installed Playstation Now on my PC so I can play TLoU 1. Might have to wait a year or two, but I expect the 2nd game will be available on PC sooner or later too and I'll quite happily wait.

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Trondheim wrote:
And why no, I live a stone throw away from the sea. And before you launch into some rambeling sterotype about Vikings and what not, I dont wait for the raiding season, nor do I own a helmet with horns on

So you're one of the boring Vikings then? The one who stays behind and tends his farm.

Ha! I haven't got a PC so take that!

**General Annoyance**

jreilly89 wrote:
I'm not setting unrealistic expectations. Notice how I only said companies that have earned my trust, I.E. I've bought their previous games and loved them.

It wasn't directed at you in particular - I've seen a lot of hype going about for this already, both before and after the teaser was revealed. And while I get some companies are more trustworthy than others (obviously), there still has to be a degree of caution applied when something as big as The Last of Us is getting a sequel. Questions and suggestions still have to be put forward; how will it improve on what it already laid down previously? How will it (or will it even attempt to) capture the audience that may not have played the first game? How will it keep it feeling fresh for avid fans?

For me personally, my big question will be "will it change the gameplay radically enough for me to fall in love with it?"

Or people should be allowed to like what they want and be as excited as they want to be. There is no mandated level of excitement here. And No Man's Sky was a whole different debacle by a new company, not a trusted one like Naughty Dog.

If people want to go bouncing up and down about how amazing a game will be before they've even seen something like a short demo, or screenshots, knock yourself out. But don't come onto the internet building up hype trains and getting angry after the game releases because it doesn't meet your expectations, and subsequently taking out that anger on other users. Or of course, the other way around, when rabid fans attack anybody who picked up the game and didn't like it.

No Mans Sky was ultimately no different to any other game that gets hyped up; just because one may have trust in a company's promises, doesn't mean that company will necessarily live up to those expectations. It still ended up with the same level of terrible attitude among gamers that can be expected over the past few years.

Congrats? I've never played a Bethesda game and not liked it. I accept them for what they are, buggy messes that are a blast and have a massive open world.

Congrats for what?

Still, you are probably in the minority of people who wouldn't expect more from a company that produces AAA budget games; game breaking bugs and glitches should not be acceptable or the norm in a £45/$60 game.

But again, perhaps a topic for another time; apart from a few framerate drops, I never experienced any bugs or glitches while playing The Last of Us.

The 60 FPS thing was a joke, sorry if it didn't come across that way. Sure, in most 3rd person shooters it's a problem, but I've played through TLoU and the Remastered and had no discernable difference in plays. Maybe if I played them in reverse (Remastered and TLoU) I might've noticed the difference, but that's downright silly to do.

It didn't, but have my apology for not considering it so.

I'm surprised that you wouldn't have noticed. Almost everyone who has played a game at 30 and then 60FPS will notice a massive difference in both the look and feel of the game - less input lag and smoother visuals, movement and even cutscenes all make for an objectively better experience.

Obviously there is no doubt that The Last of Us Part 2 will have at least 60FPS. If it doesn't, that's simply bullgak.

Grimskul wrote:
Still find it boring? I'm guessing you haven't played the multiplayer which is not a tacked on part as you would assume and is actually one of the things that really adds to its longevity given how intense some matches can be, particularly in survivors and you're the last man standing.

I have yet to play it; hopefully if my PS3 returns to me, I can give it a shot. Still, I feel it still ends up being tacked on simply because the focus was on the single player story. That doesn't mean there wasn't any effort put into it, more like it was second priority to both game devs and most gamers.

**Trondheim**

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
welshhoppo wrote:
Finally, a good reason to buy a ps4.

Feth that. I've just installed Playstation Now on my PC so I can play TLoU 1. Might have to wait a year or two, but I expect the 2nd game will be available on PC sooner or later too and I'll quite happily wait.

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Trondheim wrote:
And why no, I live a stone throw away from the sea. And before you launch into some rambeling sterotype about Vikings and what not, I dont wait for the raiding season, nor do I own a helmet with horns on

So you're one of the boring Vikings then? The one who stays behind and tends his farm.

You wish christian

There are places far more attractive places to go when one dislikes warm weather or Europeans

**alanmckenzie**

General Annoyance wrote:
Never really liked Uncharted and subsequently The Last of Us' combat - always found it to be insanely frustrating, with a distinct lack of being able to learn from my mistakes like I would in most games similar to such titles. It also suffered from being a PS exclusive - an inferior control mechanism does not help in a game where ammo is incredibly limited, and headshots on fast moving, unpredictable targets can mean the difference between life and death in a fight.

Certainly not a 10/10 game for me. However, I stuck through the sub par gameplay for the great story, and those few times where the level design made the fights much less full of bull cheap deaths (mostly fighting the bandit factions).

Will happily buy The Last of Us part 2, but I already dislike all this insane hype surrounding the game. More power to you if you enjoyed the first game more than I did, but people need to stop setting expectations higher than they already are before we've even seen screenshots of the game.

feeder wrote:
Alright, mate, I'm just chatting here. I'll drop the subject. You are the only person I've talked to who wouldn't rate this game at least a 7or 8 out of 10 though, that's all.

Scores are just subjective numbers that have relatively no meaning unless they're broken down. But for the record, I'll break down The Last of Us on a score system:

Story - 9/10. We don't need to discuss this one in depth, but it had a heart moving start, an action packed middle, and an even more feels inducing end. Most certainly on par with a storyline like Season 1 of Telltale's The Walking Dead.

Gameplay - 4/10. Sub par at best; while there are many interesting mechanics and limitations in the game, such as listening out for targets, crafting and scavenging, and even a lack of ammo necessitating alternate playstyles throughout, both ranged and melee combat are poor. Aiming feels rather stiff, and melee still feels much like the Uncharted games: unresponsive and dull, as you'll frequently throw a punch into mid air despite being right next to your target, or you just mash square till you kill your enemy. Even a two button system like Space Marine would have made this a lot better (and no, pressing triangle at a scripted time in melee does not constitute for a two button system). Also ranged enemy AI seems to range from bumbling morons who take cover in the wrong direction or stand out in the open pelting your cover to pinpoint accurate super assassins who end up killing you over and over. Again, a problem with Uncharted's combat carried over.

Puzzles and platforming are fine, though there is nothing major to report there. Scavenging is also fine, and can become interesting when you're forced to make a choice between two items, and you don't have enough ingredients to make both.

Also locked at 30FPS, although if you played the Remastered Edition, they upped it to 60.

Visuals (For original version, not Remastered) - 8/10. Great and diverse environments, a vibrant colour palette, and overall brilliant graphical fidelity. Animation quality is also pretty top notch - outside of combat at least, I felt like I was really in control of Noel/Ellie, with their movements being so natural.

Multiplayer - meant to play this, but never got round to it. Because I haven't touched it though, it can't really affect my score either way, since I didn't buy it for the multiplayer anyway.

Overall then, it's a "I mean, it's pretty great, but 365 game awards guys?"/10

G.A

You've conveyed my feelings on this game to an absolute tee.

I've just finished the Remastered copy having been a x360 owner last gen. I agree with every aspect of your summation.

For me, a good game. Some great aspects averaged out by various mediocre ones.

I will likely play the sequel, probably when it comes down in price.

I enjoyed the trailer.