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 Jancoran wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Ah. Pure flyers. Maybe I'd shoot the ones with weaker saves to reduce the warp charges. Gah, FMCs are dumb. It's not genius. It's obvious exploitation of a group of undercosted units.

they cost over 300 points. Level 3 Psykers with Tzeentch madness. I havent done the math but thats not cheap and not better than the 300 point wraithknight. so i have a hard time callingthem undercosted. hehehe.

Just because they aren't AS undercosted as the WK, doesn't mean they aren't undercosted. Flying MCs, like ground MCs, have a plethora of advantages over their vehicle counterparts that is not properly reflected in their price.

Martel732 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Ah. Pure flyers. Maybe I'd shoot the ones with weaker saves to reduce the warp charges. Gah, FMCs are dumb. It's not genius. It's obvious exploitation of a group of undercosted units.

they cost over 300 points. Level 3 Psykers with Tzeentch madness. I havent done the math but thats not cheap and not better than the 300 point wraithknight. so i have a hard time callingthem undercosted. hehehe.

Just because they aren't AS undercosted as the WK, doesn't mean they aren't undercosted. Flying MCs, like ground MCs, have a plethora of advantages over their vehicle counterparts that is not properly reflected in their price.

Gonna have to go with Martel here, it is pretty silly once you start taking multiple princes.

OT: Go with what intrigues you. If you love TS then freakin go for them!

Thanks to DFTS and the FAQs, the stormraven is now 200 pts of flying junk. And then Magnus happened. Feth GW.

 gummyofallbears wrote:

Martel732 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Ah. Pure flyers. Maybe I'd shoot the ones with weaker saves to reduce the warp charges. Gah, FMCs are dumb. It's not genius. It's obvious exploitation of a group of undercosted units.

they cost over 300 points. Level 3 Psykers with Tzeentch madness. I havent done the math but thats not cheap and not better than the 300 point wraithknight. so i have a hard time callingthem undercosted. hehehe.

Just because they aren't AS undercosted as the WK, doesn't mean they aren't undercosted. Flying MCs, like ground MCs, have a plethora of advantages over their vehicle counterparts that is not properly reflected in their price.

Gonna have to go with Martel here, it is pretty silly once you start taking multiple princes.

OT: Go with what intrigues you. If you love TS then freakin go for them!

I fought it. It was only three princes and Magnus...and some stuff, But it was still very impressive.

 Jancoran wrote:

 gummyofallbears wrote:

Martel732 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Ah. Pure flyers. Maybe I'd shoot the ones with weaker saves to reduce the warp charges. Gah, FMCs are dumb. It's not genius. It's obvious exploitation of a group of undercosted units.

they cost over 300 points. Level 3 Psykers with Tzeentch madness. I havent done the math but thats not cheap and not better than the 300 point wraithknight. so i have a hard time callingthem undercosted. hehehe.

Just because they aren't AS undercosted as the WK, doesn't mean they aren't undercosted. Flying MCs, like ground MCs, have a plethora of advantages over their vehicle counterparts that is not properly reflected in their price.

Gonna have to go with Martel here, it is pretty silly once you start taking multiple princes.

OT: Go with what intrigues you. If you love TS then freakin go for them!

I fought it. It was only three princes and Magnus...and some stuff, But it was still very impressive.

Because all those FMCs are undercosted. It's easy to be impressive when someone is basically cheating. Ie, they are getting to put extra functional value on the table without paying for it. Just as WKs and scatbikes are basically cheating as well.

Oh my God. Cheating? Seriously? Gimme a break,.

From a certain point of view. Yes, cheating. Obviously it's not cheating from a pure rules perspective, but GWs inability to do math or properly cost obviously powerful units is giving some factions huge advantages on the tabletop. So it's a form of implicit cheating, but the responsibility does not lie with the player. Basically GW is building cheating into their game without anyone's consent.

 Jancoran wrote:
Oh my God. Cheating? Seriously? Gimme a break,.

Don't bother, his bitterness towards MC knows no bounds

And are mathematically solid as well. I'm only as bitter as the mathematics dictates.

Boy this went off-topic in a hurry...