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Wait. This film takes place in the Pacific Rim universe after they built that wall?

Some new and on my end rather large images:













At a certain point this thread may delve into minor spoiler territory, but I won't be posting anything they don't officially reveal themselves. I had the entirety of Alien Covenant spoiled for me by the time I got to seeing it and I can't let myself get carried away and do that again. Tbh though I spoiled that one for myself because I lost all confidence it in turning out good and I was hoping knowing some plot points would reinvigorate some interest in seeing it. Luckily I have more confidence in Blade Runner...

brand new trailer!

Bit more of a plot reveal than the previous ones.
Looking great visually but dosent seem like the deepest possible plot. TBC of course.

Saw the trailer before War For The Planet of the Apes. Wife is interested in seeing it (Although I think it may be from the Ford/Gosling/Leto trifecta)

Not much new from comic con today as they chose to reveal the trailer earlier in the week. But there is a new website that has a timeline detailing the interesting happenings between the original film and the year 2049.

http://roadto2049.bladerunnermovie.com/

interesting bits;

In 2019 deckard and rachel escape los angeles. In 2022 an EMP blackout wipes electronic data and the unites states spirals downhill, people blamed the replicant nexus 8s made by the tyrell corp shortly after tyrells death. A year later all replicants are banned and are hunted down..some go into hiding. The Wallace Corp rises up by introducing a new type of genetically modified food that allows the company to expand and he basically buys out the bankrupt Tyrell corp, inherits the two buildings in LA. In 2036 a new line of Nexus 9 replicants are released after the prohibition of replicants ends...these ones are considered a perfected model. Earlier models of replicants remain illegal and are still being hunted by 2040.

Climate change had the sea rise up and a wall erected around the LA coast to keep the ocean from overtaking the city. Inside the city is full of sick poor inhabitants that were left behind...no fresh food and everybody lives off the Wallace Corps kind of weird artificial food.

 Thargrim wrote:

Climate change had the sea rise up and a wall erected around the LA coast to keep the ocean from overtaking the city. Inside the city is full of sick poor inhabitants that were left behind...no fresh food and everybody lives off the Wallace Corps kind of weird artificial food.

Soylent Green?

Got to see a bunch of the props/costumes and a couple vehicles from the movie at the BR thing next to comic con today...pretty impressive setup.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/30/16065872/hans-zimmer-blade-runner-2049-compose-score-denis-villeneuve

Hans Zimmer and Wallfisch brought in to help compose the score...they did Dunkirk as well. Not too sure about this...he is kind of the mainstream conventional composer. So hopefully he stays true to the Blade Runner sound instead of phoning it in. The other problem that could arise is if there are multiple composers.. styles and stuff clashing, it could end up having a disjointed or messed up feel. I do find it kind of amusing its now taking 3 composers to get a grip on following up what Vangelis did though. The article pretty much says they are joining in to assist and help Johannsson and Denis nail down the score...hopefully since they are all collaborating it will turn out good. Does anyone think this is a sign of studio interference?

VFX work on the movie has apparently wrapped up, 55 days to go. Plus the movie now has a 100% confirmed R rating for "For violence, some sexuality, nudity and language."

 Thargrim wrote:
Plus the movie now has a 100% confirmed R rating for "For violence, some sexuality, nudity and language."

Good.

That translates as an "M" for Aus ( Deadpool was a US "R" - it was just an "M" for us, and we got the same cut - we're just cooler with f*bombs and norks. ).

Robocop (original) theatrical release was an "R" for us, though - and that's mostly because of the OTT gun violence and gore.
(it was made intentionally that way, though - with excessively OTT violence so that the various censor mobs would cut the more egregious bits and let the rest slide.)

Blade runner got an M here when it was released back then, even with the "thumbs in the eyes" scene.
I can see it being closer to its predecessor than robocop, though - unless they play tug of war with entrails whilst singing.

First international tv spot/trailer up, some great visuals and this one certainly seems like it's gonna be a lot more intense than the first. If you want to avoid spoilers, obviously avoid watching.

One small problem with that trailer. By opening with Frank Sinatra's "One For My Baby", I couldn't really focus on anything else. Ah well, that's what happens when my favorite Sinatra song is used in a trailer.
It took another couple of viewings to see the rest of the trailer, and, I have to admit, it still doesn't really spoil much.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
One small problem with that trailer. By opening with Frank Sinatra's "One For My Baby", I couldn't really focus on anything else. Ah well, that's what happens when my favorite Sinatra song is used in a trailer.
It took another couple of viewings to see the rest of the trailer, and, I have to admit, it still doesn't really spoil much.

Always been a bit partial to Sammy Davis Jr.'s renditions. But then again, that would sometimes include Frank anyway!

Film is looking good, pretty excited

If this movie is a action film and not a film noir (in color like the original) then I will sadly be giving it a miss, the original was a story with some action, these days all we seem to get is action and some story... sad panda

I'm thinking it's how this footage is edited together, 1-3 second shots edited together in a fast sequence with loud music will make anything look action packed. I'm sure there will be a sense of urgency and suspense in the movie, and fighting...but I think these trailers are just bs to be honest...if the runtime indeed ends up being 2 and a half hours any worries of it being too actiony can be alleviated a bit.

Between this trailer and the last two I already have a pretty good idea of what happens, in what order and who kills who already. I have a tendency to analyze every frame of these trailers though.

Two new TV spots, not too much new footage but some interesting dialogue.







And the US theatrical poster:

First of apparently 3 short films for the movie. Gives some insight on how the prohibition of replicants was repealed. Sort of like a prequel, so no spoilers here.

New tv spot, 28 days to go. The second short film was leaked earlier but was taken down...it is for Bautistas character named Sapper Morton though.

Yet another scene from the movie, nothing too spoilery thankfully. I hope they don't go too insane with releasing and revealing everything about this movie before oct 6th...

second short film is now released.

Okay, Gosling is starting to grow on me and the tone and mood in the trailers seems pretty faithful to the original without being a Abramsesque recycling job.

Thargrim wrote:A year later all replicants are banned and are hunted down..some go into hiding.

I hope that article has the setup wrong. Here is a problem. Replicants were already banned and hunted down in the original movie. That's why Blade Runners existed in the first place, to "retire" any/all replicants found on Earth. Aside from Rachael, there shouldn't be any replicants left wandering around, barring a secret stash of them set up somewhere by Tyrel before he died.

So, if the article has it right, are replicants more banned? Banned-banned? Double dutch banned? Banned²? Instead of being retired, are they now being permanently retired?

I hope the movie explains this better, otherwise it just looks sloppy.

I think the idea is that while Replicants were banned from Earth in the original film(and the book), they were considered a fact of life on the colonies.

In the book, Replicants were even given to settlers/colonists as part of the incentives to get them to move off Earth.
It might be that they were then banned from even the colonies/off-world.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I think the idea is that while Replicants were banned from Earth in the original film(and the book), they were considered a fact of life on the colonies.

In the book, Replicants were even given to settlers/colonists as part of the incentives to get them to move off Earth.
It might be that they were then banned from even the colonies/off-world.

I dont remember them actually being given to colonists off-world, but I do remember that their uses lined up pretty well from the book to the movie: ie, they were used for "dangerous" work.

One of the huge elements from the book that wasn't in the movie, was the market for pets, and how lonely people were. Huge market for real, live pets over replicant animals. Makes me wonder, if things had stayed more true to the book, in the 2049 scenario, are replicated animals also illegal?

 Breotan wrote:
Okay, Gosling is starting to grow on me and the tone and mood in the trailers seems pretty faithful to the original without being a Abramsesque recycling job.

Thargrim wrote:A year later all replicants are banned and are hunted down..some go into hiding.

I hope that article has the setup wrong. Here is a problem. Replicants were already banned and hunted down in the original movie. That's why Blade Runners existed in the first place, to "retire" any/all replicants found on Earth. Aside from Rachael, there shouldn't be any replicants left wandering around, barring a secret stash of them set up somewhere by Tyrel before he died.

So, if the article has it right, are replicants more banned? Banned-banned? Double dutch banned? Banned²? Instead of being retired, are they now being permanently retired?

I hope the movie explains this better, otherwise it just looks sloppy.

I might have just explained it poorly, at the time Deckard and Rachel met all replicants were illegal on earth. And when Tyrell died they rushed out the nexus 8s for use off world (these ones have open ended lifespans and eye implants for easy identification. (I also think Wallace the villain is a nexus 8, and he purposely blinded himself so he couldn't be detected, and he's building an army of replicants etc). So now the most powerful man on earth is actually a replicant hiding in plain sight. But those nexus 8s were still not intended for use on earth. The blackout that occurred may have allowed some to escape, get loose etc. (I think Wallace may have been to blame for that too).

New behind the scenes video:




Only 13 days to go, and critics/journalists are getting to see it this weekend and coming week. They are under an NDA until an embargo or whatever lifts so don't expect any early reactions until a bit later.

 Breotan wrote:
Okay, Gosling is starting to grow on me and the tone and mood in the trailers seems pretty faithful to the original without being a Abramsesque recycling job.

Thargrim wrote:A year later all replicants are banned and are hunted down..some go into hiding.

I hope that article has the setup wrong. Here is a problem. Replicants were already banned and hunted down in the original movie. That's why Blade Runners existed in the first place, to "retire" any/all replicants found on Earth. Aside from Rachael, there shouldn't be any replicants left wandering around, barring a secret stash of them set up somewhere by Tyrel before he died.

So, if the article has it right, are replicants more banned? Banned-banned? Double dutch banned? Banned²? Instead of being retired, are they now being permanently retired?

I hope the movie explains this better, otherwise it just looks sloppy.

In the original film, humanoid replicants were ONLY illegal on EARTH (NOT the outer colonies). If you go to the Road to 2049 site, there's a chronology from 2019 to 2049 that shows the relative history. Also, there are three short films to expand this background (2036 Nexus Dawn, 2048 Nowhere to Run - and a third to be released in the next few days)

2020 - Tyrell corp (after the death of Eldon Tyrell) rushed out nexus 8s to the offworld colonies - open lifespan and ocular implants for easier tracking.
2022 - the blackout. Datakrash. Food situation becomes dire.
2023 - ban on replicants extended to ALL off-world colonies as well as earth.
2025 - Wallace corp releases new foodstuff to ease global starvation using gm tech. Expands his reach to outer colonies.
2028 - Wallace acquires the bankrupt Tyrell corporation
2030s - Wallace creates a new line of replicants, more compliant and obedient than their predecessors.
2036 - the prohibition on replicants is repealed (colonies) - Wallace releases the new, perfected nexus 9 model.
2040s - LAPD re-establishes the blade runner unit (this would presuppose that the prohibition on reps still stands - in some form - for Earth).

Wouldn't all the 8s be dead anyway? Wasn't that one of the central plot points of the original?

It's going to take more than prequel videos and the plot revolving around 'no, they're really safe THIS time, honest' to really make this convincing.

I have a feeling this going to be one of those films where the actual film is a mess, but people are going to claim that detractors are wrong for not doing the required background investigation first.

The original move only dealt with Nexus 6 models, Nexus 8s were not introduced until later.

The social media embargo lifts tomorrow, so we will start getting peoples initial reactions. I'm not sure how spoilery the initial reviews may be but I would be wary from here on out.