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So if the eldar trio is eldrad, the model that we can sort of see and I'm guessing a named iyanden farseer/spiritseer could it be that eldrad has tracked down the shard of ynnead(sp?) and needed the help of the iyanden seer to give the shard a physical form, it looks to me like that model has a ghost warrior style head with the point on the top being similar to a wraithknights but obviously infantry sized, maybe he has commorite armour parts because the shard fled to commoragh in the webway and they used what was on hand.
Just my own speculation obviously.

 Mantle wrote:
So if the eldar trio is eldrad, the model that we can sort of see and I'm guessing a named iyanden farseer/spiritseer could it be that eldrad has tracked down the shard of ynnead(sp?) and needed the help of the iyanden seer to give the shard a physical form, it looks to me like that model has a ghost warrior style head with the point on the top being similar to a wraithknights but obviously infantry sized, maybe he has commorite armour parts because the shard fled to commoragh in the webway and they used what was on hand.
Just my own speculation obviously.

The helmet looks almost exactly like on of the kabalite warrior helmets from the infantry box. i think people are getting carried away with the theory crafting at this point. It's a neat idea though.

 Alpharius wrote:
So the Xenos terms for Humanity just happen to sound like Monkey and Gorilla and that's...funny?

OK.

I mean, I'm all for funny stuff that's, you know, actually funny!

And Ghazghkull Mag Uruk thraka= Margaret thatcher(if your jaw is broken)
Vulcan hes'tan = Vulcan he's tan (because you know the salamanders aren't black , it's just a radioactive tan )
There's dozens of names that are all jokes ( look at old lizardman hero names)

Those are a bit of a stretch.

And I never thought Gue'La was "gorilla". Seems like a stretch too.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Those are a bit of a stretch.

And I never thought Gue'La was "gorilla". Seems like a stretch too.

Thought Gue'la was a reference to gweilo

Cosmic Schwung wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:
Eldar is an lotr term. Not copyright able.

I don't think you can copyright a name. You can get a trademark though. GW did exactly that for its use in games and models back in '92.

This is GW just wanting a collective name for all the different factions, isn't it? I'll be surprised if they start changing the names of codecies.

It's all because of the Chapterhouse lawsuit. GW tried to claim a whole bunch of infringements, they lost most of their claims because of generic or pre-established naming, but won on items that had unique naming. So now everything has to have a unique name so 3rd party retailers can't make products of the same name.

 Theophony wrote:
And Ghazghkull Mag Uruk thraka= Margaret thatcher(if your jaw is broken)

Andy Chambers (the creator) denied it (in an interview - don't have the link).

 Theophony wrote:
Vulcan hes'tan = Vulcan he's tan (because you know the salamanders aren't black , it's just a radioactive tan )

You think? Why not Charlton Heston - he was Marc Antony in Julius Caesar and... um... Ben Hur in Ben Hur and there are artefacts called Kesare's Mantle and Obsidian Chariot (it's just speculation, too). I think "he is tan" is quite far-fetched.

 Theophony wrote:
There's dozens of names that are all jokes ( look at old lizardman hero names)

The Slann/Lizardmen names were... special. Thanxalotl for nothing...


Btw: the German 'translation' of Mon-Keigh was Chem-Pan-Sey.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
And Ghazghkull Mag Uruk thraka= Margaret thatcher(if your jaw is broken)

Andy Chambers (the creator) denied it (in an interview - don't have the link).

For what that one's worth, I can see why he'd want to officially deny it, even if it was the intent.

 Fafnir wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
And Ghazghkull Mag Uruk thraka= Margaret thatcher(if your jaw is broken)

Andy Chambers (the creator) denied it (in an interview - don't have the link).

For what that one's worth, I can see why he'd want to officially deny it, even if it was the intent.

I'd have to go digging, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't him that said it, it was an editors comment in white dwarf a very long time ago. While the army was his created using the ork books, and he rolled up the characters and did the conversions, I'm pretty sure he did not say the origin of the name.

 Dryaktylus wrote:


Btw: the German 'translation' of Mon-Keigh was Chem-Pan-Sey.

I was going to bring up the "Mon-Keigh" = Monkey reference if no one else was, but I am glad that the joke could be translated in the German version.

 Alpharius wrote:
So the Xenos terms for Humanity just happen to sound like Monkey and Gorilla and that's...funny?

OK.

I mean, I'm all for funny stuff that's, you know, actually funny!

Honestly, I don't disagree with you, I think I was just feeling kinda grumpy yesterday as a result of being loaded with the cold...

 Alpharius wrote:
So the Xenos terms for Humanity just happen to sound like Monkey and Gorilla and that's...funny?

OK.

I mean, I'm all for funny stuff that's, you know, actually funny!

And here I was thinking that gue'la is a bastardisation of guai lo, which is the derogatory cantonese term for white people.

Greyfax...and Inquisitor possibly mind controlled by Trazyn whenever he wants....

Grey....a shade.

Fax....a method of communication.

Black....a shade

Mail.....a method of communication.

There's puns all over the shop.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Greyfax...and Inquisitor possibly mind controlled by Trazyn whenever he wants....

Grey....a shade.

Fax....a method of communication.

Black....a shade

Mail.....a method of communication.

There's puns all over the shop.

She's a Gandalf reference.

Gandalf the Grey, and his horse Shadowfax.

I think using some of these names worked out well for GW, just look at all the different people with their different theories relating to the meanings.

changemod wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Greyfax...and Inquisitor possibly mind controlled by Trazyn whenever he wants....

Grey....a shade.

Fax....a method of communication.

Black....a shade

Mail.....a method of communication.

There's puns all over the shop.

She's a Gandalf reference.

Gandalf the Grey, and his horse Shadowfax.

but she looks nothing like Sarah Jessica Parker.

Where is all this Mon-Keigh reference from? I know it's for monkey, but how does this apply to 40K?

Davor wrote:
Where is all this Mon-Keigh reference from? I know it's for monkey, but how does this apply to 40K?

It's the term Eldar use to describe humans.

I first heard monkeigh in dawn of war, but I'm sure is been used elsewhere.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Davor wrote:
Where is all this Mon-Keigh reference from? I know it's for monkey, but how does this apply to 40K?

It's the term Eldar use to describe humans.

Really? I never knew that. Thank you very much.

Davor wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Davor wrote:
Where is all this Mon-Keigh reference from? I know it's for monkey, but how does this apply to 40K?

It's the term Eldar use to describe humans.

Really? I never knew that. Thank you very much.

Yes, basically mon'keigh translate those that should be exterminated, more or less.

Charming isn't it?

Mon'keigh is old, very old, at least 2nd ed. (so, 1994), and that's assuming it wasn't from Rogue Trader.

The Ork term for Elves is "panzee", etc. Lots of silly old naming conventions.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Mantle wrote:
So if the eldar trio is eldrad, the model that we can sort of see and I'm guessing a named iyanden farseer/spiritseer could it be that eldrad has tracked down the shard of ynnead(sp?) and needed the help of the iyanden seer to give the shard a physical form, it looks to me like that model has a ghost warrior style head with the point on the top being similar to a wraithknights but obviously infantry sized, maybe he has commorite armour parts because the shard fled to commoragh in the webway and they used what was on hand.
Just my own speculation obviously.

The helmet looks almost exactly like on of the kabalite warrior helmets from the infantry box. i think people are getting carried away with the theory crafting at this point. It's a neat idea though.

Yeah, I've been saying this exact same thing for weeks now, eventually people might get the hint.

Someone had asked a few days ago about the Empyric Storms table, did anyone answer that?

If not:
I really enjoy it. I've played a few small games with it, and it can really shift a game. If Null Tide(units cannot take Invulnerable Saves) comes into play, some big stuff can take a huge hit.

My personal favorite though is "Unreality Reigns". Until the start of your next turn, all dice rolls of 1 are counted as 6 and all dice rolls of 6 are counted as 1.

Speaking of silly names. Don't forget this guy.

Good ole' Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
That's so fake it shouldn't have been posted here.

In fact, if it is real, I will eat a well done steak.

Disbelief is no excuse for Heresy.

 Elbows wrote:
Good ole' Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau.

Never did apprehend Abdul Goldberg though, did he...

All these silly names are probably because in the old days, the "Fluff for nutters" (remember, that's the origin of the term) was probably written by a bunch of giggling drunk people at a pub.

Read the original source material from which GW got their "Grim Dark" setting. All the classic dystopias of the 80s contained tons of black comedy, and the ridiculous over-the-topness of all of it was part of the joke. A Canticle for Liebowitz, 1984, Judge Dredd, Starship Troopers, all these books had an underlying understanding that when you make a setting as dark and gritty and depressing as it can possibly go, it's pretty silly.

It only seems odd when so much of the setting has been strangled into straight-faced submission by the need for everything to be "bad ass". The last time I read new content with a little levity in it out of GW was Trayzn's part in FoC and the Adeptus Mechanicus codexes. Arguably maybe in the Genestealer Cult codex they kept a little bit of silliness in how utterly doomed all the cults are, but it is funny to see Space Marine players figure out that it used to be that the Orks weren't always the sole comic relief in the setting.

 Elbows wrote:
Mon'keigh is old, very old, at least 2nd ed. (so, 1994), and that's assuming it wasn't from Rogue Trader.

The Ork term for Elves is "panzee", etc. Lots of silly old naming conventions.

I don't think the term Mon'keigh is quite that old - certainly not 2nd edition or RT old...

I think it is more 4th edition timeframe?

Anyway, it is awful, and should be retired, double quick! Especially as GW is going about renaming stuff again!