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Can someone please help me with something.
Although I know a lot about the 40k universe. I've read many rulebooks and several novels but love stories always seem to be something only ever touched on. With new SOB material on the horizon I needed to know what they are like in regards to committed relationships [apart from being committed to the Emperor that is]

Basically, what I'm asking in a roundabout way is: Do Sisters of battle find time for it?
I'm aware that Ciaphus Cain encounters a canoness [I think] who is having an affair with a preacher but for all we know, Amberly Vail might not even exist

No. Vows of chastity and all that. The Canoness Cain encountered was retired.
And Cain isn't canon in my eyes. Maybe for you, but that's your choice.

Most of the time no, since they are to busy fighting.

Is it possible? Yes.
Would it ever have a real reason to popup in official lore out side of a minor story? Probably not.
Is it cringy? Up to interpretation but if you try and make fan fic of your sisters in a relation, you are gonna get some initial groans, but it can be done.

If you want a great example of fan fic romance, go look up the most amazing fanfic ever written, go read: "Love Can Bloom." Which there are even some super obscure minor hits that GW might have secretly made it cannon.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
If you want a great example of fan fic romance, go look up the most amazing fanfic ever written, go read: "Love Can Bloom." Which there are even some super obscure minor hits that GW might have secretly made it cannon.

"Most amazing fanfic ever written"? No love for The Age Of Dusk or The Shape Of The Nightmare To Come?
Wait, people think it's canon?
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Oh dear dead god why?

No... For one battle sisters are raised in separate facilities and have own fortified bases. There selected for extreme faith and being zealous and rather prone to being flamey.

The closest a regular human come a hospitler sister, and there still a despite non combat technically still selected on same basis.

There like space marines, there zelously "married to duty" and even those on attachment to inquistors or formoasa sections may blur slightly but not to that extent.

Also add in there soldiers, and pretty feared for being zelous and rather flamey who exacute purity testing and remorseless when heresey found.

You do not wanna get investigated by a inquisition linked orgonisation..

 Verviedi wrote:

 Backspacehacker wrote:
If you want a great example of fan fic romance, go look up the most amazing fanfic ever written, go read: "Love Can Bloom." Which there are even some super obscure minor hits that GW might have secretly made it cannon.

"Most amazing fanfic ever written"? No love for The Age Of Dusk or The Shape Of The Nightmare To Come?
Wait, people think it's canon?
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Oh dear dead god why?

Ill see if i can dig it up, but i want to remember that there is a really teeny tinny line somewhere is some book that actually hits to its possibility like them sending a vindicator assassin to kill whats her name, ill see if i can find it again.



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Ok found it, so basiclly it was decanonized by relic because Taldeer dies.

BUT

Later, in fantasy flights Dark Heresy: Ascension book, they actually name LIIVI and even say he is part of the liberator squad in the game, and also features a picture of a farseer being stalked by a vindicare assassin.

So it boils down to the legitimacy of fantasy flight game's canon, and interpretation of it, but its a very clear and an unarguable nod toward it.

Oh, huh. Interesting. I consider that as more of a reference than an actual canonization.
Also, RIP Taldeer. We hardly knew ye.

 Verviedi wrote:
Oh, huh. Interesting. I consider that as more of a reference than an actual canonization.
Also, RIP Taldeer. We hardly knew ye.

....Or is she dead.....bum, bum BUUUMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As with most 40k lore questions the answer is 'it depends'. The Sisters of Battle aren't a particularly monolithic entity, there are six major Orders Militant and hundreds or thousands of minor Orders, all of which might have different rules and vows.

I'd expect romance in/around major Orders strongly in the public eye and/or in more central positions to be illicit and tiptoed around, while Orders that depart more from the Catholic-nun image in their rules to be smaller and further from the centers of power. That said at the end of the day the Imperium is a big place, there are many, many Battle Sisters, and you can probably find space for an almost infinite variety of romantic plotlines if you look hard enough.

Jon Snow broke his vow, she can too.

Is it ever actually confirmed that Sisters of Battle take a vow of chastity or anything of that nature? I don't think GW's ever said anything official, but it's one of those things that a lot of fans assume.

 Skymate wrote:
Can someone please help me with something.
Although I know a lot about the 40k universe. I've read many rulebooks and several novels but love stories always seem to be something only ever touched on. With new SOB material on the horizon I needed to know what they are like in regards to committed relationships [apart from being committed to the Emperor that is]

Basically, what I'm asking in a roundabout way is: Do Sisters of battle find time for it?
I'm aware that Ciaphus Cain encounters a canoness [I think] who is having an affair with a preacher but for all we know, Amberly Vail might not even exist

Alot of 40k is bolter porn so not much love, sex and romance - IMO the better authors have it within their stories as its a driving part of human (and some Xenos) nature.

So you will find it within the works by
Dan Abnet - lots in the Gaunts Ghosts books
ADB - yes but its quite often pretty twisted stuff like in the Night Lords novels (and no it does not involve the actual marines)

Sandy Mitchel - Cain is not the only one having a good time you know but he does have dalliances with many (often extremely interesting in their own right) women - some are just a bit of fun on both sides and some are actual relationships - bit like real life really.

The SOB in that story tends to cause huge flame wars.

Is it ever actually confirmed that Sisters of Battle take a vow of chastity or anything of that nature? I don't think GW's ever said anything official, but it's one of those things that a lot of fans assume.

Its never said by GW either way -except by their publishing arm BL which (is as official as anything else in 40k) says there is not one but that it rarely if ever comes up - in universe even informed people like Cain presume there is one.

Historically speeking, caserne, prison and monastery life is full of consensual sex even, or maybe especially, because its forbidden. Monks, nuns, soldiers, firefighters and prisonners going at it is far from being unknown since people are people and sex is part of life. On the other side though, 40K has a tendency to make things EXTREME!!! Thus most humans who lives a monastery lifestyle or a caserne life are terribly dehumanised and brainwashed. If you want romance gun for the Inquisition or the Guards war and power are erotic afterall.

 Verviedi wrote:
No. Vows of chastity and all that. The Canoness Cain encountered was retired.
And Cain isn't canon in my eyes. Maybe for you, but that's your choice.

These days my primary source of canon is http://regimental-standard.com ... I don't think it mentions anything on the issue. I do know that the traitor primarchs were slain 10k years ago and rumours of a 'daemonic cyclops' were actually half glimpsed sightings of a sunburnt ogryn in an eyepatch.

 Skymate wrote:
Basically, what I'm asking in a roundabout way is: Do Sisters of battle find time for it?

Possible? Yes. SOB's aren't dead set against relationships or men. Problem being they are fairly focused on their duties which leaves little time, they tend to intimidate many, awe others and spend most of their time together so have very little chances of meeting anybody. In particular long term relationships are likely hard. Outside their monastery(where unlikely are many males) they would be in war front. Apart from trouble of having long term relationship when either has good chance of dying due to war they could get ordered elsewhere and when campaign is over odds are very good they would find themselves light years ahead.

I see more likely short term relationships for SOB rather than long term if that.

Honestly, I would expect that any man a sister showed interest in would be just as faithful/fanatical as the Sister herself, maybe like the Tallarn.

Is anyone aware of a canon source that explicitly states that Sisters take vows of chastity? I know it's implied, but I'm not aware of it being spelled out anywhere.

That being said, a traditional romance (specifically a sexual relationship) doesn't seem like it would fit with the theme and tone of the Sisters. I think there might be some room to explore non-traditional relationships, maybe with some romantic undertones, but as you've seen, you'll probably get some pushback.

They have the whole implied sister, nun, monestery type thing going.

Celebecey is normally tied in.
Its gonna sound so B movie but no one said inter sister relationships or external not happen but...

Its pure B movie cheese half the time.
All woman combat unit sees men, relationships happen..

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Maybe with another equally zelous crusader or something. But regular guard or somthibf bit far.

Thanks for the feedback
I wouldn't consider much of what Cain said to be true as the joke is he supposedly fabricated everything to cover up what he really was [or wasn't] doing at the time

Is 'Love can bloom' from 1D4chan? I remember reading something, somewhere about Agna and Caryis but what's the stance on 'that' sort of fanfiction.....is it all to be considered tongue and cheek?