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Building two squads of 10 right now, should I leave them all with bolters? Or add a few flamers?

First of all, it's better to stick to 5-man squads. And avoid warpflamers.

If you want to run Warpflamers, convert 3 Thousand Sons with wings or Jetpacks. Have them "count as" Flamers of Tzeentch.

That's kinda what I was planning Koooaei, 3 5 man squads just in case I want to try a maxed out war cabal I guess. I'll just build all bolters. The flamers do look amazing though!

I wouldn't mind using the flamers to make 30k legion support squads. But they are just silly on rubrics.

Massive Nay on Rubrics.

Everything about them is dumb;

*Massively overpriced (7 pts is alot even *before* you consider the fact that you swap out your AP3 Bolter, which Rubrics already pay for.)
*Rubrics can't overwatch, one of the best things about template-weapons.
*You'll just end up giving your target FnP.

If they where a free swap and/or if they where AP3 I *might* have considered taking a 5man flamer squad, but as it is...no, not a chance.

And yes, it's a shame, because the actual flamers look amazing.

HardNay.

There's an artefact that lets Rubrics overwatch, so it might be worth it if you wanted a bodyguard squad to an Exalted Sorcerer or something.

Nurglitch wrote:
There's an artefact that lets Rubrics overwatch, so it might be worth it if you wanted a bodyguard squad to an Exalted Sorcerer or something.

Purchase 30 pts marines with flamers, give them a mandatory 58 pts champion with no options, then also purchase an artifact just to let them overwatch. Oh and invest in a character to hold said artifact. This is a bad idea on many, many levels.

I am thinking that in a maxed war cabal, what you really go after is the immortal terminators. Therefore the rubrics are your "tax" in order to get your favoured of Tzeentch going. In such a case, if you decide to break the 2k pt barrier, perhaps giving your msu rubric units rhinos and a couple of flamers on each, might turn them from an expensive tax unit to an expensive(r) utility unit. But that's the only condition where I would consider the flamers.

Warpflame isn't really all that great. The only reason it works with daemons is because you have the weight of numbers with stuff like flickering fire to try to wipe out the unit before it takes the test. All this warpflamer stuff looks cool, but its all very mid strength and single shots which is the opposite of what you want when you have warpflame on your attacks as this will in most cases give things like space marines fnp rather fast.

Even with the overwatch idea above, if you don't wipe that unit charging you it has a reasonable chance of getting fnp at the end of that phase. Honestly if you want fire attacks just a quick look at it tells me maybe keep the rubrics as they come with bolters and give them an icon of flame for soul blaze.

The weapon has a nice model.

The unit entry was given the option for a flamer as it is what is included in the kit.

It is clear to me, however, that this weapon's model actually exists to be used as a Burning Brand on a character.

 MinscS2 wrote:
Massive Nay on Rubrics.

Everything about them is dumb;

*Massively overpriced (7 pts is alot even *before* you consider the fact that you swap out your AP3 Bolter, which Rubrics already pay for.)
*Rubrics can't overwatch, one of the best things about template-weapons.
*You'll just end up giving your target FnP.

If they where a free swap and/or if they where AP3 I *might* have considered taking a 5man flamer squad, but as it is...no, not a chance.

And yes, it's a shame, because the actual flamers look amazing.

If Warpflamers were S5 AP 5 and a free swap, and the Icon of Flame gave Bolt weapons +1 Strength and Warpflame...I think it would be more interesting since you could run 1k-Sons "dual role" so to speak. As is, hard nay!

Warp flamers should've been Torrent to make up for having that dumb Warpflame rule.

Or just give them soul blaze instead of warpflame really.