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jasper76 wrote: I'm wondering if it will be even worse tomorrow with the Women's March on Washington. Hope everyone stays safe and the protests are civil, but I won't hold my breath.
I just feel bad for the people that have to clean the bathrooms. It seems counterintuitive but women's restrooms get trashed way worse than men's restrooms. Every place I've worked that's had public bathrooms that's been the case.
I dislike Trump as much as the next person (well, maybe not judging by some of these people), but the fact remains he was elected President by the system we have in place.
No amount of destroying private property will change that.
Peaceful protest? Fine, as long as nobody gets hurt and you don't disrupt people's lives by making them late for work or disrupting emergency services routes on the freeway.
But these people who start destroying their own communities because things happened the way they are supposed to sicken me.
Have an exalt. There seems to be a big discussion about if a small minority of liberal supporters are worse than a small minority of conservative supporters, which doesn't even makes sense as an argument and bypasses the fact that this sort of response simply isn't OK.
Rosebuddy wrote: To start with, declaring black people non-human and using them for chattel slavery is pretty divisive. Once slavery was crushed they still weren't allowed to vote until the 60's. .
Seriously?
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
feeder wrote: You don't think women have just cause to be upset that President Donnie "Grab Em By the Pussy" Drumpf is an actual fething thing now?
It's not that...
I'm thinking...
So your response to a woman who is upset about a man who said "grab them by the pussy" getting elected as the president of the United States of America is lol Star Wars gif? Good to know.
...jeez... who pee'd in your cheerios?
You did. You peed in my Cheerios with a stupid gif. Some people do not want to be grabbed in their genitals by other people. Some people think that is deplorable. Some people think electing someone who would say that is deplorable. Some people think that turning that gif into a lol shrug meme is deplorable. sometimes we who think that will errantly put all of you into a basket of people who we find deplorable. Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes, we should hold people to a standard that our twelve year old boy should look up to. It is deplorable. Wanna put yourself in that basket who think it isn't?
Gordon Shumway wrote: It is deplorable. Wanna put yourself in that basket who think it isn't?
hashtagthatswhatelectedTrump, or some such similar gak.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Rosebuddy wrote: To start with, declaring black people non-human and using them for chattel slavery is pretty divisive. Once slavery was crushed they still weren't allowed to vote until the 60's. .
Seriously?
What's controversial about that? They were given the legal right to vote, but there were still various laws aimed at making sure that very few of them were ever able to do so.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
feeder wrote: You don't think women have just cause to be upset that President Donnie "Grab Em By the Pussy" Drumpf is an actual fething thing now?
It's not that...
I'm thinking...
So your response to a woman who is upset about a man who said "grab them by the pussy" getting elected as the president of the United States of America is lol Star Wars gif? Good to know.
...jeez... who pee'd in your cheerios?
You did. You peed in my Cheerios with a stupid gif. Some people do not want to be grabbed in their genitals by other people. Some people think that is deplorable. Some people think electing someone who would say that is deplorable. Some people think that turning that gif into a lol shrug meme is deplorable. sometimes we who think that will errantly put all of you into a basket of people who we find deplorable. Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes, we should hold people to a standard that our twelve year old boy should look up to. It is deplorable. Wanna put yourself in that basket who think it isn't?
Nah... its fething hysterical and definitely meme worthy.
If you make a spectacle like that, you deal with spectacle afterwards.
Rosebuddy wrote: To start with, declaring black people non-human and using them for chattel slavery is pretty divisive. Once slavery was crushed they still weren't allowed to vote until the 60's. .
Seriously?
Well, on a technical level that's completely incorrect XD
On a more functional level it's still incorrect but less so (but not by much).
Only a few states were truly successful in blocking the black vote (some Southern and many Mid-Western states tried and failed on numerous attempts). While nearly all states made it more difficult for blacks to vote up until the 60s, it was really only the deep South, that managed to consistently prevent blacks from voting in elections and that ability didn't really set in until the 1890s. One of the things generally overlooked in this period though is that African Americans consistently won challenges to disenfranchisement laws throughout the US pretty much from the end of the Civil War onward. It's just that every time the Supreme Court knocked one Jim Crow law down, states rapidly put a new one in place that needed to be challenged all over again.
feeder wrote: You don't think women have just cause to be upset that President Donnie "Grab Em By the Pussy" Drumpf is an actual fething thing now?
It's not that...
I'm thinking...
So your response to a woman who is upset about a man who said "grab them by the pussy" getting elected as the president of the United States of America is lol Star Wars gif? Good to know.
...jeez... who pee'd in your cheerios?
You did. You peed in my Cheerios with a stupid gif. Some people do not want to be grabbed in their genitals by other people. Some people think that is deplorable. Some people think electing someone who would say that is deplorable. Some people think that turning that gif into a lol shrug meme is deplorable. sometimes we who think that will errantly put all of you into a basket of people who we find deplorable. Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes, we should hold people to a standard that our twelve year old boy should look up to. It is deplorable. Wanna put yourself in that basket who think it isn't?
Nah... its fething hysterical and definitely meme worthy.
If you make a spectacle like that, you deal with spectacle afterwards.
Yup, saying women are just objects to touch is hysterical. Laugh a minute. Funny stuff. Grope another person and deal with the consequences later. Good advice for a twelve year old boy.MAGA! How about using a gif of a woman who is testifying in court about someone violating her instead? Not nearly as funny, but a lot more accurate.
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feeder wrote: You don't think women have just cause to be upset that President Donnie "Grab Em By the Pussy" Drumpf is an actual fething thing now?
It's not that...
I'm thinking...
So your response to a woman who is upset about a man who said "grab them by the pussy" getting elected as the president of the United States of America is lol Star Wars gif? Good to know.
...jeez... who pee'd in your cheerios?
You did. You peed in my Cheerios with a stupid gif. Some people do not want to be grabbed in their genitals by other people. Some people think that is deplorable. Some people think electing someone who would say that is deplorable. Some people think that turning that gif into a lol shrug meme is deplorable. sometimes we who think that will errantly put all of you into a basket of people who we find deplorable. Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes, we should hold people to a standard that our twelve year old boy should look up to. It is deplorable. Wanna put yourself in that basket who think it isn't?
Nah... its fething hysterical and definitely meme worthy.
If you make a spectacle like that, you deal with spectacle afterwards.
Yup, saying women are just objects to touch is hysterical. Laugh a minute. Funny stuff. Grope another person and deal with the consequences later. Good advice for a twelve year old boy.MAGA!
Rosebuddy wrote: To start with, declaring black people non-human and using them for chattel slavery is pretty divisive. Once slavery was crushed they still weren't allowed to vote until the 60's. .
Seriously?
What's controversial about that? They were given the legal right to vote, but there were still various laws aimed at making sure that very few of them were ever able to do so.
Okay.
Guess my understanding of history is way off. I could have sworn the 15th Amendment was before the 1960s.
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Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
feeder wrote: You don't think women have just cause to be upset that President Donnie "Grab Em By the Pussy" Drumpf is an actual fething thing now?
It's not that...
I'm thinking...
So your response to a woman who is upset about a man who said "grab them by the pussy" getting elected as the president of the United States of America is lol Star Wars gif? Good to know.
...jeez... who pee'd in your cheerios?
You did. You peed in my Cheerios with a stupid gif. Some people do not want to be grabbed in their genitals by other people. Some people think that is deplorable. Some people think electing someone who would say that is deplorable. Some people think that turning that gif into a lol shrug meme is deplorable. sometimes we who think that will errantly put all of you into a basket of people who we find deplorable. Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes, we should hold people to a standard that our twelve year old boy should look up to. It is deplorable. Wanna put yourself in that basket who think it isn't?
Nah... its fething hysterical and definitely meme worthy.
If you make a spectacle like that, you deal with spectacle afterwards.
Yup, saying women are just objects to touch is hysterical. Laugh a minute. Funny stuff. Grope another person and deal with the consequences later. Good advice for a twelve year old boy.MAGA!
How was i putting words in your mouth? The message thread speaks for itself. You used a Star Wars meme for something stupid to equate to people's distaste for it. You said your gif or the words Trump used were "hysterical". Ha ha. Funny stuff. Molestation can't get any funnier. Dont double down anymore on this one, doubling down on zeros isn't getting you any points.
Rosebuddy wrote: To start with, declaring black people non-human and using them for chattel slavery is pretty divisive. Once slavery was crushed they still weren't allowed to vote until the 60's. .
Seriously?
What's controversial about that? They were given the legal right to vote, but there were still various laws aimed at making sure that very few of them were ever able to do so.
Okay.
Guess my understanding of history is way off. I could have sworn the 15th Amendment was before the 1960s.
I was referring more to the Voting Rights Act and the whole Civil Rights movement in general.
Rioting, vandalizing and even taking hammers to a limo.
The Limo I can understand...But why smash up a cafe? WTF has the cafe done to them? And its even more disgusting if the cafe was a small family company as opposed to a big corporate chain like Starbucks.
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The Limo I can understand...But why smash up a cafe? WTF has the cafe done to them? And its even more disgusting if the cafe was a small family company as opposed to a big corporate chain like Starbucks.
They are anarchists. They want to bring society as a whole to a crashing halt. They are seeing an opportunity because of the huge divide that's growing in society; they aren't protesting against Trump, they are protesting against society. It's just a different way of exploiting divisions compared to Trump but that's their end goal. It's just as dangerous as populism if left unchecked.
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"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. " - V
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"It's not a problem if you don't look up." - Dakka's approach to politics
I dislike Trump as much as the next person (well, maybe not judging by some of these people), but the fact remains he was elected President by the system we have in place.
No amount of destroying private property will change that.
Peaceful protest? Fine, as long as nobody gets hurt and you don't disrupt people's lives by making them late for work or disrupting emergency services routes on the freeway.
But these people who start destroying their own communities because things happened the way they are supposed to sicken me.
Given who is infesting Trump's administration, they might be just destroying government property...
The Limo I can understand...But why smash up a cafe? WTF has the cafe done to them? And its even more disgusting if the cafe was a small family company as opposed to a big corporate chain like Starbucks.
They are anarchists. They want to bring society as a whole to a crashing halt. They are seeing an opportunity because of the huge divide that's growing in society; they aren't protesting against Trump, they are protesting against society. It's just a different way of exploiting divisions compared to Trump but that's their end goal. It's just as dangerous as populism if left unchecked.
Right, but if its some anti upper class, class warfare thing why not target a big rich corporation like Starbucks? I Googled Atrium Cafe and as far as I can tell they're a small company with just three cafes in Washington DC and nowhere else, as opposed to a nation-wide or international chain like Starbucks.
Thats like me saying "Feth the rich upper class!" ...and then smashing up the windows of my local chippy or family run Indian restaurant. Joe Schmoe is not quite what I have in mind when somebody tries to 'stick it to the man'.
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You can't apply a rational thought process to a mob.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
The Washinton D.C. Area has spent most of the last three decades undergoing a lot of gentrification. This has displaced many of the traditional residents of the city who can no longer afford to live there. One of the most extreme cases is the U-Street Corridor, a traditionally black neighborhood in D.C. that is now mostly hipsters, white retirees, and high end housing and night life projects. Politically U-Street and the general Shaw, Mt. Vernon, and Logan Circle areas have become symbols of the rich (and white) forcing everyone else out and stealing the culture of the area*. Two of Atrium Cafe's locations are placed right in/near this area, and may have been destroyed as a symbol of these processes.
*Many business in the area attempt to maintain the flavor of the neighborhood, even though the historical black area is now increasingly white.
This is of course making the rather grand assumption that the people setting the place on fire are actually from D.C., and aware of some of the things happening in the city, and aren't just destroying the first classy looking place they can find because they're a mob and destroying things is kind of what they do.
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