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I'm no expert on the United Nations and its workings, but if the USA quits the UN, then it loses its security council veto, right?
Israel and its lobbyists in Washington would go ballistic.
Another crackpot scheme bits the dust. I feel sorry for the trees that died to provide the paper for this nonsense.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
...One would assume the UN would/could also lose that building in NYC.
The removal of diplomatic status would probably ruffle a few feathers here and there too.
TBF the organisation has had it's ups and downs
Spoiler:
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
reds8n wrote: ...One would assume the UN would/could also lose that building in NYC.
The removal of diplomatic status would probably ruffle a few feathers here and there too.
TBF the organisation has had it's ups and downs
Spoiler:
I've made this threat a few times, but the day America pulls out of the UN, is the day I change my name to dakka dakka by deed poll.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
reds8n wrote: ...One would assume the UN would/could also lose that building in NYC.
The removal of diplomatic status would probably ruffle a few feathers here and there too.
TBF the organisation has had it's ups and downs
Spoiler:
I've made this threat a few times, but the day America pulls out of the UN, is the day I change my name to dakka dakka by deed poll.
I think Dakka McDakka is a better fit
We joke about it, but this type of nonsense should be laughed out of Washington, will be laughed out of Washington.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
We joke about it, but this type of nonsense should be laughed out of Washington, will be laughed out of Washington.
I dunno, if it gets to Trumps desk I reckon he'd sign it and if there is one thing which republicans in congress have shown they can do it is send idiotic bills to the presidents desk.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
Trump clearly has huge insecurity issues in his mind. The mere IDEA that his inauguration crowd wasn't #1 in USA history makes him go ballistic against media and any goverment official who dares to even mention it.
And this is supposed to be president...Sheesh. I said before random 5 year old would make better president. I think I was too optimistic. Random TODDLER would be better qualified president!
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: It goes without saying that we all thought the Trump administration would take the USA into uncharted territory, but I didn't think it would happen after only one day!
You really shouldn't be surprised. He was utterly ridiculous for years before he started his presidential campaign, he was utterly ridiculous throughout his campaign... kinda obvious he'd continue being utterly ridiculous.
To set the tone in this manner i.e picking a fight with the press when the facts are overwhelmingly against you with regard to crowd sizes.
That part isn't a unique Trump thing. Anyone remember Karl Rove mocking what he called the 'reality based community', and saying that the Bush administration created its own reality.
Trump is the most extreme case so far, but he hasn't come out of nowhere, he is the next logical step in the long Republican decline.
I hesitate to say this, but I think there is a mental issue here...
I don't know if any of us are qualified to know where the line is between having a mental issue and just being a really, really awful person
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: It goes without saying that we all thought the Trump administration would take the USA into uncharted territory, but I didn't think it would happen after only one day!
You really shouldn't be surprised. He was utterly ridiculous for years before he started his presidential campaign, he was utterly ridiculous throughout his campaign... kinda obvious he'd continue being utterly ridiculous.
To set the tone in this manner i.e picking a fight with the press when the facts are overwhelmingly against you with regard to crowd sizes.
That part isn't a unique Trump thing. Anyone remember Karl Rove mocking what he called the 'reality based community', and saying that the Bush administration created its own reality.
Trump is the most extreme case so far, but he hasn't come out of nowhere, he is the next logical step in the long Republican decline.
I hesitate to say this, but I think there is a mental issue here...
I don't know if any of us are qualified to know where the line is between having a mental issue and just being a really, really awful person
I was under the mistaken belief that the responsibility and prestige of such a high office would temper something in Trump.
It's one thing to read about the fall of a particular empire in the history books, it's another thing to witness it happening in slow motion, as we are doing now.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
I was under the mistaken belief that the responsibility and prestige of such a high office would temper something in Trump.
He got to where he is by being Donald Trump, he has no reason to quit now.
Impeachment might bring Trump to a stop, but knowing Trump, he'll probably try and counter-impeach the people trying to impeach him
I'll never forget that excellent passage in the John Adams biography by David McCullough.
Adams is trying to get to France to raise French support against Britain. He's almost captured by the Royal Navy, and nearly dies of pneumonia, sea voyages being particularly hazardous in those days.
Adams must be spinning in his grave at the state of the nation he risked so much for...
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
I was under the mistaken belief that the responsibility and prestige of such a high office would temper something in Trump.
He got to where he is by being Donald Trump, he has no reason to quit now.
Impeachment might bring Trump to a stop, but knowing Trump, he'll probably try and counter-impeach the people trying to impeach him
I'll never forget that excellent passage in the John Adams biography by David McCullough.
Adams is trying to get to France to raise French support against Britain. He's almost captured by the Royal Navy, and nearly dies of pneumonia, sea voyages being particularly hazardous in those days.
Adams must be spinning in his grave at the state of the nation he risked so much for...
If impeachment proceedings do get launched against Trump he will bluster for a bit, claim he's innocent despite any evidence to the contrary, claim it is some conspiracy by the media and/or "the swamp" and then eventually resign before he is removed from office, still claiming that he was innocent and that you didn't fire him, HE QUIT!
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: It goes without saying that we all thought the Trump administration would take the USA into uncharted territory, but I didn't think it would happen after only one day!
You really shouldn't be surprised. He was utterly ridiculous for years before he started his presidential campaign, he was utterly ridiculous throughout his campaign... kinda obvious he'd continue being utterly ridiculous.
To set the tone in this manner i.e picking a fight with the press when the facts are overwhelmingly against you with regard to crowd sizes.
That part isn't a unique Trump thing. Anyone remember Karl Rove mocking what he called the 'reality based community', and saying that the Bush administration created its own reality.
Trump is the most extreme case so far, but he hasn't come out of nowhere, he is the next logical step in the long Republican decline.
I hesitate to say this, but I think there is a mental issue here...
I don't know if any of us are qualified to know where the line is between having a mental issue and just being a really, really awful person
I was under the mistaken belief that the responsibility and prestige of such a high office would temper something in Trump.
It's one thing to read about the fall of a particular empire in the history books, it's another thing to witness it happening in slow motion, as we are doing now.
One of the long-time political pundits I follow said 'The White House changes a man. But typically, not in the way one would think. Sure there have been examples where the Oval Office has checked an individual's brashness and braggado, but those are very few and far between. John F. Kennedy is a perfect example of this. Typically, the change we see is that the characteristics and persona displayed by the candidate becomes amplified by the position."
"It's all just campaign bluster." No. No, it isn't. I can't even count how many times I heard that fool's buy-in from his supporters or Clinton detractors. This guy is an open book. There's no hint of subtlety. What we've seen, is what we're going to get...God help us.
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Just not getting the sarcasm then? Even PJ pointed it out to you in a reply post, but, K...if you like arguing with yourself. Maybe I should have italicized "of course" to really get the tone across...*note to self.
Sorry I left what I meant implied... I was responding to the person you were responding to, who was responding to my first statement.
Much of the speech was written by Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, two of Mr. Trump’s top advisers, a White House official said.
“I don’t think we’ve had a speech like that since Andrew Jackson came to the White House,” said Mr. Bannon, Mr. Trump’s chief strategist and senior counselor. “It’s got a deep, deep root of patriotism.”
The speech was intended to touch the same themes of his campaign, Mr. Bannon said. “It was an unvarnished declaration of the basic principles of his populist and nationalist movement,” he said. “It was given in a very powerful way.”
so is this an actual Bill that will pass or just a bit of grandstanding by ..err.... Mike Rogers ?
Shown Here:
Introduced in House (01/03/2017)
American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017
This bill repeals the United Nations Participation Act of 1945 and other specified related laws.
The bill requires: (1) the President to terminate U.S. membership in the United Nations (U.N.), including any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body; and (2) closure of the U.S. Mission to the United Nations.
The bill prohibits: (1) the authorization of funds for the U.S. assessed or voluntary contribution to the U.N., (2) the authorization of funds for any U.S. contribution to any U.N. military or peacekeeping operation, (3) the expenditure of funds to support the participation of U.S. Armed Forces as part of any U.N. military or peacekeeping operation, (4) U.S. Armed Forces from serving under U.N. command, and (5) diplomatic immunity for U.N. officers or employees.
It's certainly a bold play.
.. still won't get those parking fines paid one fears.
I have a few -- vague -- memories of other politicians trying similar stunts over the years .
One of the Ryans perhaps ?
It's a real bill and does have some support...
However, I'm betting that it won't leave the House.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Interesting, watch the way she pauses before saying "alternative facts", she also looks away, swallow, stutters and then brushes her hair, all distraction techniques used by your subconscious when trying to get a lie out.
Then she immediately trys to change the subject onto Obama. Classic.
"All their ferocity was turned outwards, against enemies of the State, foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals" - Orwell, 1984
My guess is in a week or so we will see a poll where 30% buys those "alternative facts" as the truth and will believe the media was lying about the crowd size.
2018 will be interesting for sure, but I've learned not to have hope of any kind.
But this is certainly an interesting set of circumstances. Starting the presidency with the highest approval rating in recent history following the presidency ending with (maybe?) the highest approval rating in recent history.
And starting the first couple of days with a vacation, multiple easily verified lies, "alternate facts", and the first Executive Order targeting a law that the vast majority of people don't want to see repealed.
For better or worse, the GOP hitched their wagon to him and has fallen in line. Conventional logic would say that 2018 should see a groundswell for the Democrats, especially if the marches yesterday were any indication. But conventional logic also said we wouldn't have a President Trump.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And if the whole "Libtards talking gak about people is how Trump won" has any truth to it, then the "Trump got more fat women walking than Michelle Obama ever did" posts on Facebook should result in a Democratic landslide victory...
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d-usa wrote: Starting the presidency with the highest approval rating in recent history following the presidency ending with (maybe?) the highest approval rating in recent history.
Obama's exit popularity was high, but not as high as those of Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan. Higher than both Bushes if I remember right.
I'm sorry. For the longest time, I thought we were supposed to be led by adults.
I'm honestly surprised. She's usually great at swallowing her own BS, but even she seems to be in a fuss that this is what she now has to say on air to earn her pay check.
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d-usa wrote: Starting the presidency with the highest approval rating in recent history following the presidency ending with (maybe?) the highest approval rating in recent history.
Obama's exit popularity was high, but not as high as those of Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan. Higher than both Bushes if I remember right.
Pulling numbers for my fancy "random number facts" and you're right.
