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 whembly wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Dayum.... mild manner (often accused of RINO) Orinn Hatch just went Dwyane 'The Rock' Johnson beastmode on the democrats...

https://www.finance.senate.gov/chairmans-news/hatch-statement-at-executive-session-to-consider-treasury-hhs-nominations

Key excerpt:

“We took some unprecedented actions today due to the unprecedented obstruction on the part of our colleagues. As I noted earlier, the Senate Finance Committee has traditionally been able to function in even the most divisive political environments. Personally, as longtime member of this committee, I have been proud of that distinction. And, in my time as both Ranking Member and Chairman of this committee, I have bent over backwards to preserve its unique status as one of the few places where Republicans and Democrats not only work together, but achieve results. That all changed yesterday. Republicans on this committee showed up to do our jobs. Yesterday, rather than accept anything less than their desired outcome, our Democrat colleagues chose to cower in the hallway and hold a press conference. Now, I get that my colleagues think these nominees are controversial. I get that they don’t want to see them confirmed. We’ve all been in that situation. It comes part and parcel with the job of being a Senator. And, this is hardly the first time a nominee deemed to be controversial has come before this committee.”

Dude.. Hatch is the old guard Senator who would usually be counted on to NOT change the senate's filibuster rule... after this? I'm not sure it's a good idea for democrats to piss him off...

Hatch just removed the rule that required both parties present for quorom.... meaning, Steve Mnuchin and Tom Price moves to Senate floor for confirmation vote.

That's rich, coming from the same people who refused to OK even the most uncontroversial and non-political of Obama's nom. But anything to go "Grr, liberals grr," I guess.

Separation of Powers is a bitch...

So you agree his outrage is hypocritical and fake?

 Sentinel1 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
Come on guys, in the States people are upset about Trump's EO against migration from rogue states.
And here in Germany there was a police raid against the islamistic scene with 1,100 police men this night.

I think the problem with Muslimaphobia will be much worse in Germany than the US, since Angry Merkle opened the countries borders to everyone, now the state police are over paranoid about hunting potential terrorists down to protect people. I know it hasn't helped with the Christmas market attack, but if a terrorist wants to get into a country they will find a way, no matter what. If I may pose a hypothetical question, the E.O plan was drawn up by the Obama administration. If Obama or say Clinton had given it the go ahead, would we still see the same levels of opposition?

It's a very hypothetical question since the utterly shambolic execution of the EO on all levels is ample proof that Trump didn't have a plan.

He had a soundbite.

 Frazzled wrote:

Its not national pride. I am talking about public universities, publicly funded by taxpayers for (present and future) taxpayers. I would not expect the public university of any nation to accept non-citizens. It directly violates their purpose

Not to be offensive, but I would posit that you may misunderstand their purpose to some degree. Public universities all over the world in every developed country accept foreign students. Thats a fundamental part of how they build academic connections, share knowledge and subject matter experts, collaborate on research projects, open people's minds to previously unexplored ideas and concepts, show off how cool they are, and pilfering the best and brightest from other countries, something the US has done in vast amounts to our great benefit.

Now, again, concerns that they may be displacing native students in favor of the extra funding foreign students generate is fair, but thats not unique to foreign students either (out of state students are another, often bigger issue), however foreign students absolutely have a place in public universities all over the world.


Edit: hell even I took courses at a foreign public university. They have a duty to educate their local populace, but part of that is often interaction with foreigners, and theyre not just supposed to be diploma mills for townies, but also research institutions that help drive local industry as well, which involved grabbing talent from anywhere you can get it.

Plus it's not like state schools are free. They cost as much as for-profit to out of state students.

The very purpose of universities, science, research, and intellectual property law (patents) is to improve the lot of humanity in general by developing new knowledge and making it publicly accessible.

Science at its root cannot function without the publication of hypotheses, experiments, data and analysis of results.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The very purpose of universities, science, research, and intellectual property law (patents) is to improve the lot of humanity in general by developing new knowledge and making it publicly accessible.

Science at its root cannot function without the publication of hypotheses, experiments, data and analysis of results.

That is true, and may I take the time to apologise for any previous post of the subject of academics/intellectuals. I didn't mean for it to come across quite how it did, I am a very tolerant person. I do not want to be banned or have all my posts removed. If I am breaking any forum rules please message me, I must admit I do come across a little Jeremy-Clarkson-like in this debate. Now I will leave this debate for tonight, but fear not I will be back!

 reds8n wrote:





Fun times ahead.

I find it hard to be concerned about this.

Yeah, it could be proof of his desire to undermine the constitution. But it could just as easily be his motivation for getting into law, because people like that are out there in Government.

 whembly wrote:
Dayum.... mild manner (often accused of RINO) Orinn Hatch just went Dwyane 'The Rock' Johnson beastmode on the democrats...

https://www.finance.senate.gov/chairmans-news/hatch-statement-at-executive-session-to-consider-treasury-hhs-nominations

Key excerpt:

“We took some unprecedented actions today due to the unprecedented obstruction on the part of our colleagues. As I noted earlier, the Senate Finance Committee has traditionally been able to function in even the most divisive political environments. Personally, as longtime member of this committee, I have been proud of that distinction. And, in my time as both Ranking Member and Chairman of this committee, I have bent over backwards to preserve its unique status as one of the few places where Republicans and Democrats not only work together, but achieve results. That all changed yesterday. Republicans on this committee showed up to do our jobs. Yesterday, rather than accept anything less than their desired outcome, our Democrat colleagues chose to cower in the hallway and hold a press conference. Now, I get that my colleagues think these nominees are controversial. I get that they don’t want to see them confirmed. We’ve all been in that situation. It comes part and parcel with the job of being a Senator. And, this is hardly the first time a nominee deemed to be controversial has come before this committee.”

Dude.. Hatch is the old guard Senator who would usually be counted on to NOT change the senate's filibuster rule... after this? I'm not sure it's a good idea for democrats to piss him off...

Hatch just removed the rule that required both parties present for quorom.... meaning, Steve Mnuchin and Tom Price moves to Senate floor for confirmation vote./quote]

Hmn, isn't a political quorum kind of pointless if you can just remove the need for the opposition party to be present? That's unsettling, "hey we want to do x, y, z, oh and yeah, we can do that without you have a say so".

Just a few more words to elaborate on what I said about academics before I get in forced vacations. I think I sufficiently proved that Iranians, right now, do represent a fair share of contribution to scientific progress that wanting to reject would be stupid. If you think I am wrong, I advise you to try to look for data to prove me wrong, just by doing so you would do a much better job at defending my point that I could ever do. But this is not the only people you would miss out on. Research works better with collaboration, and a huge part of it is congress, symposium, conferences, seminars and the like. If you ban some researchers, sometime the best researchers in their respective fields, from entering the US, all the scientific events in the US lose a lot of prestige and interest. Similarly, if many very skilled researchers go to Europe because the US is closed to them, European universities become much more interesting and attractive for every researchers around the world. And that include… US born researchers. You are not just going to lose on Iranian medal Fields owner; you are also going to lose on all the US researchers that would love to work with a medal Field owner.

 d-usa wrote:

 reds8n wrote:





Fun times ahead.

I find it hard to be concerned about this.

Yeah, it could be proof of his desire to undermine the constitution. But it could just as easily be his motivation for getting into law, because people like that are out there in Government.

I'm pretty sure the essence of that comment on Kissinger's part was a self-reflection on his time in government in a time when the US government was seen as making a gradual slide into increasingly severe constitutional violations. Stuff like the FBI waging shadow wars with groups like AIM and the Black Panthers, when the CIA and NSA were constantly interfering in the affairs of foreign states, and when the US happily violated international law for Freedom! The comment isn't about working your way to violating the Constitution, but about the danger that comes from breaking laws in the first place even as the law. If the law breaks the law, it is only a matter of time before the foundation starts to crack.

It's an obscure quote, and not one I think someone would use without some sense of it's context. Which isn't to say he's automatically a great guy, but this quote though maybe bizarre out of its proper context, isn't some great sign of a guy with an insidious plot.

A couple weeks ago I was venting, rather loudly, about the absolutely unacceptable nature of the Russian meddling in our election process. This is something that I warned that if it was to just be overlooked...as Trumpy obviously wants to do and "move on"...then we'd see the same gak happening in other areas of the world and I mentioned Europe, with Germany's elections in particular, as something to watch. Well, the chickens are coming home to roost.

"It doesn't matter whether Trump's election was inspired or instigated or encouraged or facilitated by Russia," said Keir Giles, an expert on Russian security policy at Chatham House, a London-based think tank. Russia "will be emboldened to attempt the same thing in (Germany)." -Exactly the point I was making. And now, our Dupe-in-Chief is soft-peddling lifting sanctions. I imagine it's going to be hard to 'MAGA' when an enemy state is working to...and allowed to...subvert our, and our allies', democracy.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fake-news-has-german-election-in-crosshairs/ar-AAmvoi3?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=ASUDHP

 LordofHats wrote:
It's an obscure quote, and not one I think someone would use without some sense of it's context. Which isn't to say he's automatically a great guy, but this quote though maybe bizarre out of its proper context, isn't some great sign of a guy with an insidious plot.

You're talking about the Dakka OT. No matter who is quoting or whom is being quoted, proper context only applies to the "other guy's" comments.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
That whole "death to America" thing and launching missiles against treaties might have a little something to do with it too.

Tell me more about it, Frazzled. Explain how this had to do with it. Please, go ahead. I sincerely doubt you have any idea what you are talking about, but I will definitely give you the benefit of the doubt, so please, impress me and prove me wrong.

 Frazzled wrote:
Of course, US public universities should be exclusively for US citizens.

That's a great idea if you believe that US citizens are more intelligent than foreigners.
But what you will actually get is much better scientists in European and Asian universities than in US universities, with this policy.
Go ahead, voluntarily cut yourself from immigration that actually benefits your country.

So, I take it that if you support the smartest people going to college that you also oppose racial quotas in college admissions? After all the brightest need to have priority, right?

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
That whole "death to America" thing and launching missiles against treaties might have a little something to do with it too.

Tell me more about it, Frazzled. Explain how this had to do with it. Please, go ahead. I sincerely doubt you have any idea what you are talking about, but I will definitely give you the benefit of the doubt, so please, impress me and prove me wrong.

 Frazzled wrote:
Of course, US public universities should be exclusively for US citizens.

That's a great idea if you believe that US citizens are more intelligent than foreigners.
But what you will actually get is much better scientists in European and Asian universities than in US universities, with this policy.
Go ahead, voluntarily cut yourself from immigration that actually benefits your country.

So, I take it that if you support the smartest people going to college that you also oppose racial quotas in college admissions? After all the brightest need to have priority, right?

Why do you find a way to bring race into the debate? There's been absolutely NO mention of it in this discussion, but here you are leading with the race card.

Slighty OT here, but I thought American dakka members might like to know that Brexit is ON!

Parliament voted by a majority of 384 to activate Article 50, the process to leave the EU.

You may have noticed it in my avatar

God knows if it will work, come back to me in 10 years,

but if it fails, I will grab a few crates of forge world stuff, move to America, and make my fortune selling FW at vastly inflated prices.

I will then use the money to buy my way into the GOP, create a dynasty of power, and in 60 years time, my grandson or grand daughter will be your next President.

That's plan B.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Slighty OT here, but I thought American dakka members might like to know that Brexit is ON!

Parliament voted by a majority of 384 to activate Article 50, the process to leave the EU.

You may have noticed it in my avatar

God knows if it will work, come back to me in 10 years,

but if it fails, I will grab a few crates of forge world stuff, move to America, and make my fortune selling FW at vastly inflated prices.

I will then use the money to buy my way into the GOP, create a dynasty of power, and in 60 years time, my grandson or grand daughter will be your next President.

That's plan B.

No you won't. If it fails, Sterling will go below parity with USD and we'll be able to buy all the FW we want cheap and import it ourselves. Good luck to my second favorite country.

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
That whole "death to America" thing and launching missiles against treaties might have a little something to do with it too.

Tell me more about it, Frazzled. Explain how this had to do with it. Please, go ahead. I sincerely doubt you have any idea what you are talking about, but I will definitely give you the benefit of the doubt, so please, impress me and prove me wrong.

 Frazzled wrote:
Of course, US public universities should be exclusively for US citizens.

That's a great idea if you believe that US citizens are more intelligent than foreigners.
But what you will actually get is much better scientists in European and Asian universities than in US universities, with this policy.
Go ahead, voluntarily cut yourself from immigration that actually benefits your country.

So, I take it that if you support the smartest people going to college that you also oppose racial quotas in college admissions? After all the brightest need to have priority, right?

As a rather liberal professor at a public university, I totally oppose racial quotas. I get why they are there, but the quota idea is misplaced, even if well intended. It puts a number and simple identifier on a complex human being. A better solution to the problem would be to look at qualities beyond just standardized test scores and free throw percentages. Of course that requires time and money to hire more people in the acceptance boards that goes to better scoreboards and stadiums and "quality of life" accoutrements to student dorms like fireplaces in residence halls. It's a cheap band aid to a complex wound. One, ironically, that the fiscal conservatives in the higher eschelons of the acedemic system totally support.

 cuda1179 wrote:
So, I take it that if you support the smartest people going to college that you also oppose racial quotas in college admissions? After all the brightest need to have priority, right?

So you have racial quotas in college admission in the US? I don't know much about those, but afaik your colleges are prohibitively expensive, which certainly doesn't help to get the brightest.
Do you know that here in France, the student that pass the entrance competitive exam to enter the École Normale Supérieure (literally Normal Superior School), or the École polytechniques (literally Polytechnic school), two of the most prestigious teaching body, get a full salary for the 3/4 years of their study? In exchange they sign an engagement to work for the state for at least 10 years.
And even with this I don't think we manage to get the brightest there, because there are many socioeconomic factors that will prevent some people from even thinking about taking the exam. I don't know about affirmative action, but I am pretty sure both a good scholarship system, and various way to incite people that don't come from an educated background to still try their chances at college are beneficial for academics.
Unexpected fact about affirmative action in academia: did you know that in Iran, there is some “affirmative action” in the higher level courses, to promote better gender diversity there? Yeah, the regime was unhappy that there was not enough men and too many women at the higher levels, so they decided to open some male-only courses to try to get closer to gender parity. I don't think that will work though .

It is expensive, but a bright student who is self determined will never have to pay for more than textbooks. Millions of dollars every semester at every university go unspent and back into the coffers to collect interest or build the provost a new house because students don't take the time to actually apply for all sorts of granted scholarship money. For example, I work in an English Dept. Of a Midwest univ. Last semester my tiny department had $1,236,000 that could have gone to students but went unclaimed because nobody applied for the fellowships, grants and scholarships. Universities don't like to advertise the money they will give students because when that money is given, it cannot accrue interest and cannot be spent elsewhere. One change that needs to be enacted in high schools in America is to require a Junior year class of "college acceptance and success". One class like that, just explaining how the college/university system works, what it requires for acceptance, what opportunities exist for "free" learning and how to obtain them, what the basic idea of acedemia is would do wonders for the nation's universities, and make for a better nation ready to move forward as the "low skill labor" jobs inevitably disappear.

 BigWaaagh wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
That whole "death to America" thing and launching missiles against treaties might have a little something to do with it too.

Tell me more about it, Frazzled. Explain how this had to do with it. Please, go ahead. I sincerely doubt you have any idea what you are talking about, but I will definitely give you the benefit of the doubt, so please, impress me and prove me wrong.

 Frazzled wrote:
Of course, US public universities should be exclusively for US citizens.

That's a great idea if you believe that US citizens are more intelligent than foreigners.
But what you will actually get is much better scientists in European and Asian universities than in US universities, with this policy.
Go ahead, voluntarily cut yourself from immigration that actually benefits your country.

So, I take it that if you support the smartest people going to college that you also oppose racial quotas in college admissions? After all the brightest need to have priority, right?

Why do you find a way to bring race into the debate? There's been absolutely NO mention of it in this discussion, but here you are leading with the race card.

I was trying to point out hypocrisy of some people's thoughts. A bit of a " I believe this to be true, unless it inconveniently conflicts with my other opinions" situation. Similar to people believe in gay marriage, but oppose plural marriage because it's yucky.

 cuda1179 wrote:

I was trying to point out hypocrisy of some people's thoughts. A bit of a " I believe this to be true, unless it inconveniently conflicts with my other opinions" situation. Similar to people believe in gay marriage, but oppose plural marriage because it's yucky.

Going OT a bit here, but I'll point out my government examined the issue of plural marriage a few years ago, when the FLDS splinter group that had set themselves up in Bountiful, BC, challenged the law on those grounds. The court upheld the ban because it nearly all cases it examined, the plural marriage was merely a cover for child sexual abuse.

Sauce

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
It is expensive, but a bright student who is self determined will never have to pay for more than textbooks. Millions of dollars every semester at every university go unspent and back into the coffers to collect interest or build the provost a new house because students don't take the time to actually apply for all sorts of granted scholarship money. One change that needs to be enacted in high schools in America is to require a Junior year class of "college acceptance and success". One class like that, just explaining how the college/university system works, what it requires for acceptance, what opportunities exist for "free" learning and how to obtain them, what the basic idea of acedemia is would do wonders for the nation's universities, and make for a better nation ready to move forward as the "low skill labor" jobs inevitably disappear.

My son is a HS Sophomore and we just had the first admissions and financial aid seminar for the year at his school...it's for Juniors, but Sophomores are encouraged to attend...and they had one of the admissions officers there from University of Chicago to explain the whole scholarship, financial aid, etc. environment and your sentiment about missed opportunity/resources was mirrored by that individuals' explaining that it's amazing how much simple laziness, i.e. missing filing deadlines, annually costs students absurd amounts of money they'd be able to take advantage of through the different programs available to them.
I'm also glad to report that his Junior year curriculum does have a class covering college application, testing, etc.....College? Where the hell did the time go?


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 BigWaaagh wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
That whole "death to America" thing and launching missiles against treaties might have a little something to do with it too.

Tell me more about it, Frazzled. Explain how this had to do with it. Please, go ahead. I sincerely doubt you have any idea what you are talking about, but I will definitely give you the benefit of the doubt, so please, impress me and prove me wrong.

 Frazzled wrote:
Of course, US public universities should be exclusively for US citizens.

That's a great idea if you believe that US citizens are more intelligent than foreigners.
But what you will actually get is much better scientists in European and Asian universities than in US universities, with this policy.
Go ahead, voluntarily cut yourself from immigration that actually benefits your country.

So, I take it that if you support the smartest people going to college that you also oppose racial quotas in college admissions? After all the brightest need to have priority, right?

Why do you find a way to bring race into the debate? There's been absolutely NO mention of it in this discussion, but here you are leading with the race card.

I was trying to point out hypocrisy of some people's thoughts. A bit of a " I believe this to be true, unless it inconveniently conflicts with my other opinions" situation. Similar to people believe in gay marriage, but oppose plural marriage because it's yucky.

Seemed like what you did was presume to know what was going through someone's mind and then race-bait the discussion by bringing it into the conversation. If you want to point out hypocrisy, great, everybody's all for it. But pointing out hypocrisy that hasn't happened except in your own stated assumption, "...I take it that if you support..." is non-starter.

 BigWaaagh wrote:

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
It is expensive, but a bright student who is self determined will never have to pay for more than textbooks. Millions of dollars every semester at every university go unspent and back into the coffers to collect interest or build the provost a new house because students don't take the time to actually apply for all sorts of granted scholarship money. One change that needs to be enacted in high schools in America is to require a Junior year class of "college acceptance and success". One class like that, just explaining how the college/university system works, what it requires for acceptance, what opportunities exist for "free" learning and how to obtain them, what the basic idea of acedemia is would do wonders for the nation's universities, and make for a better nation ready to move forward as the "low skill labor" jobs inevitably disappear.

My son is a HS Sophomore and we just had the first admissions and financial aid seminar for the year at his school...it's for Juniors, but Sophomores are encouraged to attend...and they had one of the admissions officers there from University of Chicago there to explain the whole scholarship, financial aid, etc. environment and your sentiment about missed opportunity/resources was mirrored by explaining that it's amazing how much simple laziness, i.e. missing filing deadlines, costs students absurd amounts of money they'd be able to take advantage of through the different programs.
I'm also glad to report that his Junior year curriculum does have a class covering college application, testing, etc.....College? Where the hell did the time go?

Good for him and thumbs up to your system. I hope he does well. Keep prodding him to save sample essays and assignments, teacher comments, basically all that he does, in a portfolio. Or you as the parent do it. It will make the acceptance requirements and fees irrelevant to you and your child. Keep up the good work, you parent, you. Your time goes into your child. It is well spent.

As an aside, Frazz has a boy newly attending Univ. I hope he is adjusting well. Let's all give credit to the man for rearing a prospective human who is not like his old man at all except for in the ways that matter. (Don't worry Frazz, a son never listens to yet never forgets his old man and the lessens he taught him).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4179004/What-controversy-Trumps-Republican-base-side.html

That article isn't really surprising. But the interesting part is indeed the signs showing Trump is already campaigning for his second mandate. Securing his motto for it was clearly one of those signs. The very question is ; will he be able to maintain the pace for that long? Four years of that non stop, it's very long and tiring. Even for a man like Trump.

But yeah, interesting times. By that, I mean the world's reactions. It's just the beginning.

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
Millions of dollars every semester at every university go unspent and back into the coffers to collect interest or build the provost a new house because students don't take the time to actually apply for all sorts of granted scholarship money.

Well, that's quite a problem! Not sure how to get students to actually get those scholarship they could have, and this seems a problem similar to convincing people from disenfranchised backgrounds that really they could succeed in academia and that they should not rule that out as a career option.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I was trying to point out hypocrisy of some people's thoughts. A bit of a " I believe this to be true, unless it inconveniently conflicts with my other opinions" situation. Similar to people believe in gay marriage, but oppose plural marriage because it's yucky.

Oh. I guess I should then reassure you on this too. I think gay people should be allowed to marry. I think people that are related by blood should be allowed to marry with a lot of safeguard put up to prevent abusive situations that could very easily arose in such marriage. I obviously oppose multiple marriage in situation where only one gender is allowed to take multiple partners, but I don't have any specific opposition to multiple marriage as long as it's an agreed upon and relatively symmetrical thing. Do I pass the hypocrisy tests? Do you have more tests for me?

My apologies. I confused you with someone else from the previous US politics thread that stated that being the smartest doesn't mean you should get into college.

 Gordon Shumway wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
It is expensive, but a bright student who is self determined will never have to pay for more than textbooks. Millions of dollars every semester at every university go unspent and back into the coffers to collect interest or build the provost a new house because students don't take the time to actually apply for all sorts of granted scholarship money. One change that needs to be enacted in high schools in America is to require a Junior year class of "college acceptance and success". One class like that, just explaining how the college/university system works, what it requires for acceptance, what opportunities exist for "free" learning and how to obtain them, what the basic idea of acedemia is would do wonders for the nation's universities, and make for a better nation ready to move forward as the "low skill labor" jobs inevitably disappear.

My son is a HS Sophomore and we just had the first admissions and financial aid seminar for the year at his school...it's for Juniors, but Sophomores are encouraged to attend...and they had one of the admissions officers there from University of Chicago there to explain the whole scholarship, financial aid, etc. environment and your sentiment about missed opportunity/resources was mirrored by explaining that it's amazing how much simple laziness, i.e. missing filing deadlines, costs students absurd amounts of money they'd be able to take advantage of through the different programs.
I'm also glad to report that his Junior year curriculum does have a class covering college application, testing, etc.....College? Where the hell did the time go?

Good for him and thumbs up to your system. I hope he does well. Keep prodding him to save sample essays and assignments, teacher comments, basically all that he does, in a portfolio. Or you as the parent do it. It will make the acceptance requirements and fees irrelevant to you and your child. Keep up the good work, you parent, you. Your time goes into your child. It is well spent.

As an aside, Frazz has a boy newly attending Univ. I hope he is adjusting well. Let's all give credit to the man for rearing a prospective human who is not like his old man at all except for in the ways that matter. (Don't worry Frazz, a son never listens to yet never forgets his old man and the lessens he taught him).

Boy about to graduate undergrad (4.0 average or whatever the average is with no Bs) and was accepted to the U of I PhD program and then start paying him (well more, he's a TA now) and no more tuition!

Girl accepted to School of Science at UT Austin. She likes her some biology, biochemistry, and chemistry. She likes da gene splicin to create mutant creapies yo dog, and has a fascination with Dr. Horrible. I think we know where this is going...

Good to see that the GOP is as spineless and self-serving as ever.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/us/politics/rex-tillerson-secretary-of-state-confirmed.html?_r=0

Yes, let's put in an oil CEO with large ties to Russia as our Sec of State. What could go wrong?

"Drain the swamp."


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Boy about to graduate undergrad (4.0 average or whatever the average is with no Bs) and was accepted to the U of I PhD program and then start paying him (well more, he's a TA now) and no more tuition!

Girl accepted to School of Science at UT Austin. She likes her some biology, biochemistry, and chemistry. She likes da gene splicin to create mutant creapies yo dog, and has a fascination with Dr. Horrible. I think we know where this is going...

Looks like you might get mutant attack weenies after all!

 cuda1179 wrote:
My apologies. I confused you with someone else

Even with my… quite unmistakable avatar? Doesn't he look good in that garb? I had even better in my signature but apparently a mod deleted my signature when I wasn't looking?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Good to see that the GOP is as spineless and self-serving as ever.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/us/politics/rex-tillerson-secretary-of-state-confirmed.html?_r=0

Yes, let's put in an oil CEO with large ties to Russia as our Sec of State. What could go wrong?

"Drain the swamp."


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 Frazzled wrote:

Boy about to graduate undergrad (4.0 average or whatever the average is with no Bs) and was accepted to the U of I PhD program and then start paying him (well more, he's a TA now) and no more tuition!

Girl accepted to School of Science at UT Austin. She likes her some biology, biochemistry, and chemistry. She likes da gene splicin to create mutant creapies yo dog, and has a fascination with Dr. Horrible. I think we know where this is going...

Looks like you might get mutant attack weenies after all!

Even worse that 4 or so Dems voted for him too