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He's not dead...so there's that.

Yes, but Horus had both arms, so...

 GoonBandito wrote:
A metal giant in a scaled cloak. Creed's panicked shot goes wide as iridescent polygons flicker on the figures upraised palm, "Ursarkar E. Creed. This need not be your end. Eternity awaits." The giant's laughter follows Creed into darkness....

Alpharius Omegon?

 BlackNid wrote:

 GoonBandito wrote:
A metal giant in a scaled cloak. Creed's panicked shot goes wide as iridescent polygons flicker on the figures upraised palm, "Ursarkar E. Creed. This need not be your end. Eternity awaits." The giant's laughter follows Creed into darkness....

Alpharius Omegon?

Pretty sure its a reference to Trazyn capturing Creed as part of his collection since he lost the chance to try and poke-ball Abbadon.

Oh! Yeah, missed that.


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Why does the chaos marines not having apothecaries mean they cant get geneseed? You would need some skill to implant them sure, but removing on organ is much simpler. Failing that, just take the body whole! Also, there are stories where they steal geneseed from loyalist chapters, Fall of Vilamus for example. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fall_of_Vilamus

With Cadia gone who will fill that void of imperial guard? The elite base model guard.

On top of that will GW change guard themes and switch the Cadian theme guard armies for a different theme?

I think it'll still be Cadians, but something like a Cadian diaspora. So many regiments out in the stars, and so many neo-Cadias from where those regiments have settled. Could easily just replace the existing models with like-for-like.

saying that, I've hoped they'd bring the grimdark cyberpunk feel to Guard for a long time now. Krieg are a step in the right direction I'd love to see more

Well if he was going to blow up Cadia why did he land troops in the first place? Thats like landing marines on the Shokaku in WWII and then dive bombing it...derp derp derp.

My personal headcanon is that he did it to draw in marine chapters from all over the imperium, butcher them, steal their geneseed and forcibly implant it into captured Cadians to double the size of his Black Legion

 Frazzled wrote:
Well if he was going to blow up Cadia why did he land troops in the first place? Thats like landing marines on the Shokaku in WWII and then dive bombing it...derp derp derp.

Pride. he didn't want Cadia just destroyed, he wanted it broken out of pure pride. Abbaddon basicly admits it, and admits that "............ truthfully I was actually kinda stupid there. need to be careful not to fall into the 'Horus trap' again"

 Frazzled wrote:
Well if he was going to blow up Cadia why did he land troops in the first place? Thats like landing marines on the Shokaku in WWII and then dive bombing it...derp derp derp.

Had to disable the defences. The Imperium had a specific plan for dealing with the Blackstone Fortress and possibly other methods of Exterminatus.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Well if he was going to blow up Cadia why did he land troops in the first place? Thats like landing marines on the Shokaku in WWII and then dive bombing it...derp derp derp.

Pride. he didn't want Cadia just destroyed, he wanted it broken out of pure pride. Abbaddon basicly admits it, and admits that "............ truthfully I was actually kinda stupid there. need to be careful not to fall into the 'Horus trap' again"

Kind of stupid? THats epic stupid. Actually, thats illogically stupid to the extent in contravenes fluff gone before. If he could just bomb it then there was no need to fortify it in the first place (outside of anti-fleet defenses).


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SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Well if he was going to blow up Cadia why did he land troops in the first place? Thats like landing marines on the Shokaku in WWII and then dive bombing it...derp derp derp.

Had to disable the defences. The Imperium had a specific plan for dealing with the Blackstone Fortress and possibly other methods of Exterminatus.

Now here's a better point-kind of ESBish.

Yup.

Abaddon admitting his hubris was a big pleaser for me, and bodes ill for the Imperium...