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 Galef wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Am I going crazy or am I the only one getting a vibe that they just may re-combine the eldar races back into one for the end times? Setting aside old differences for the sake of the race.

You are not the only one. GW did this with the Elves, excuse me, "Aelves" in AoS and they actually had a civil war the split them for centuries. Like bitterly split them. They actually had Hatred for each other
CWE and DE have never been truly that split. They simply have different views on how to continue life after the Fall, but overall there was no bitter feud between them like High & Dark elves had.

If GW 'successfully' merged Aelves in Fantasy, merging the "Aeldari" in 40K will be even easier.

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Well, they are Battlebrother aren't they?

It would make less rules bloat to simply make race/faction driven compendiums available where they stream line all of the similar rules.

It still kills me that we have Relentless, slow and purpousful, destoryer protocols and i forget the name of the heavy servitor one from cult mech. Seriously just make one USR that applies to all these scenarios. They can do this across the board really, no need for repair protocols when FNP is essentially the same. Get rid of ID and you no longer need EW, ID is a bad rule period, Just make heavier guns capable of doing more then a single wound per shot to units. Pretty sure a las canon wouldn't stop at a single guardsmen in a blob for example lol.

 Galef wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Am I going crazy or am I the only one getting a vibe that they just may re-combine the eldar races back into one for the end times? Setting aside old differences for the sake of the race.

You are not the only one. GW did this with the Elves, excuse me, "Aelves" in AoS and they actually had a civil war the split them for centuries. Like bitterly split them.
CWE and DE have never been truly that split. They simply have different views on how to continue life after the Fall, but overall there was no bitter feud between them like High & Dark elves had.

If GW 'successfully' merged Aelves in Fantasy, merging the "Aeldari" in 40K will be even easier.

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I’ll admit to not paying attention much to the state of elves in 8th, before AOS hit, but how different, mechanically, were they? When I played WHFB back in 5th-6th, the cores of all the elves had a lot of similarities. An elf spearman was much like another. The light calvary was subtly different, but overall similar. The ranged guys used different weapons, but acted the same. Sure, there were a lot of special units across the different flavors of elf, but also a lot the same. Probably not much different then all the flavors of space marines.

But besides a statline, what do Craftworld, Harlis, and Dark Eldar have in common? Is there anything?

While I could see GW doing it, I suspect it would not be a simple thing to combine the assorted Eldar.

 nintura wrote:

 Galef wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Am I going crazy or am I the only one getting a vibe that they just may re-combine the eldar races back into one for the end times? Setting aside old differences for the sake of the race.

You are not the only one. GW did this with the Elves, excuse me, "Aelves" in AoS and they actually had a civil war the split them for centuries. Like bitterly split them. They actually had Hatred for each other
CWE and DE have never been truly that split. They simply have different views on how to continue life after the Fall, but overall there was no bitter feud between them like High & Dark elves had.

If GW 'successfully' merged Aelves in Fantasy, merging the "Aeldari" in 40K will be even easier.

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Well, they are Battlebrother aren't they?

Currently with detachments and formations factions have become kind of pointless anyway. I can field a Tyranid CAD alongside my Ultramarines for example. Funny to me people exlpoded over Unbound but didn't wag a finger at the nearly identical scenario we are in right now.

Yeah, Come the Apoc allies should never have been a thing, nor should have unlimited detachments.

If they do consolidate Factions, hopefully that comes with limitations of who they can actually ally with.

I really like how they seem to be setting up Grand alliances now, there will probably be a bonus for going pure eldar/ DE but they can also be used in the same overarching faction. Also opens up the possibility for mini eldar factions to be included like Exodites or Corsairs ala Bonesplinters ect. Biggest question for me is what are they gonna do with forces like the Nids or Tau, or Necrons who dont really have any natural allies or similar forces available to have an overarching faction. Actually a Tau empire faction with lots of mini alien races would be awesome.

Wasn't sold on the Avatar at first, but seeing it "in the flesh" in that twitter pic i like it a lot better. really like how it seems to be forming itself form the spirit stones. Love the red guy, but not a fan at all of the woman, WTF is with giving her the huge base just because of her super long dress, seems like such a waste of space, unless the flowing gown gives her some kind of special rule it just seems weird.

 Galef wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Am I going crazy or am I the only one getting a vibe that they just may re-combine the eldar races back into one for the end times? Setting aside old differences for the sake of the race.

You are not the only one. GW did this with the Elves, excuse me, "Aelves" in AoS and they actually had a civil war the split them for centuries. Like bitterly split them. They actually had Hatred for each other
CWE and DE have never been truly that split. They simply have different views on how to continue life after the Fall, but overall there was no bitter feud between them like High & Dark elves had.

If GW 'successfully' merged Aelves in Fantasy, merging the "Aeldari" in 40K will be even easier.

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Ehm... actually, you got it quite wrong. Elves in WHFB unified. Aelves in AoS are a series of separate identities. Even when speaking on a matter of race, the successors of the High and Dark elves don't mingle, like at all.

In the current game state you either need to be incredibly tank like, see Cawl, or mobile. I honestly don't see footslogging Aeldari being that amazing in game, when you can buy criminally underpriced farseers on jetbikes. But we will see.

I really hope for some plastic aspect warriors with those guys, I also noticed Grotesques are "out of stock" could they be going to plastic?

 daemonish wrote:
I really hope for some plastic aspect warriors with those guys, I also noticed Grotesques are "out of stock" could they be going to plastic?

They're listed as 'Temporarily Out of Stock'. This happens all of the time. It's when it is listed as 'Sold Out - No Longer Available' that there's a possible replacement coming.

 Red Corsair wrote:
In the current game state you either need to be incredibly tank like, see Cawl, or mobile. I honestly don't see footslogging Aeldari being that amazing in game, when you can buy criminally underpriced farseers on jetbikes. But we will see.

Maybe it will be so fast it will make jetbikes blush? They may give him rules akin to a solitaire's but on steroids.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Galef wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Am I going crazy or am I the only one getting a vibe that they just may re-combine the eldar races back into one for the end times? Setting aside old differences for the sake of the race.

You are not the only one. GW did this with the Elves, excuse me, "Aelves" in AoS and they actually had a civil war the split them for centuries. Like bitterly split them.
CWE and DE have never been truly that split. They simply have different views on how to continue life after the Fall, but overall there was no bitter feud between them like High & Dark elves had.

If GW 'successfully' merged Aelves in Fantasy, merging the "Aeldari" in 40K will be even easier.

-

I’ll admit to not paying attention much to the state of elves in 8th, before AOS hit, but how different, mechanically, were they? When I played WHFB back in 5th-6th, the cores of all the elves had a lot of similarities. An elf spearman was much like another. The light calvary was subtly different, but overall similar. The ranged guys used different weapons, but acted the same. Sure, there were a lot of special units across the different flavors of elf, but also a lot the same. Probably not much different then all the flavors of space marines.

But besides a statline, what do Craftworld, Harlis, and Dark Eldar have in common? Is there anything?

While I could see GW doing it, I suspect it would not be a simple thing to combine the assorted Eldar.

The thing with eldar is that their gods are the same, they had different views on how to live after the fall that boiled down to how they could save their souls from slaanesh, with ynnead being around them although he is just a shard at this point he is a very easy way to unite all eldar factions and could even be an excuse to goad the exodites in to active war instead of just the defence of their own worlds.

Personally, I could see the Harlequin being the intermediary of the CWE and the DE.

The Harl's came up with the idea of taking their most painful event and turning it into an overwhelming advantage. They then convinced the other Eldar the plan would work, because evidence speaks for itself here. Each faction takes on an aspect with Harl's being the Avatar. I say this since the Harls have always gave the impression of walking the line of chaos and order and that model has the duality of both going on.

 daemonish wrote:
I really hope for some plastic aspect warriors with those guys, I also noticed Grotesques are "out of stock" could they be going to plastic?

Yeah that's going to be the thing that finally makes me get a mortgage and spend it all on little plastic aliens.

I'm wondering whether they'll do releases of plastic Phoenix Lords alongside plastic kits of their given Aspect...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I'd actually wager Craftworld Eldar are the worst of a bad bunch.

Sure, Dark Eldar raid and take slaves, possibly depopulating an entire world in the effort. But the suffering and eventual deaths of those slaves keep Dark Eldar alive - and likely on a more than one-for-one basis.

Craftworld? They'll orchestrate the deaths of billions, for the sake of one Eldar life, and all because their Seers claim to see the future....

This is just the 40k version of "The Trolley Problem" that one of them read about back in college and turned into the back-story of the Eldar.

I think the Visarch would look absolutely amazing if you added a bit more colour to his palette. Even just making all of those face-plates at the knees, shoulders and skirt a different colour than red would add a lot the model.

 TalonZahn wrote:

This is just the 40k version of "The Trolley Problem" that one of them read about back in college and turned into the back-story of the Eldar.

This one?

Given the trend with CWE, and Ynnead being their space-elf-jesus, it'll be WS10 BS12 SD T14 W20 I50 A 20d20 2+/2++/2+++/2++++/2+++++ ld 9001 with a WC1 60" range s10 fleshbane armourbane shred rending Instantdeath nova that needs to be denied by 10 dice. 350 points. Because eldar.

That would be the Dark Eldar version of the problem.

Yeah that guy on a bunch of swirly gak who can't decide if he wants to be a C'tan or a giant Daemonette isn't a great model.

StarHunter25 wrote:
Given the trend with CWE, and Ynnead being their space-elf-jesus, it'll be WS10 BS12 SD T14 W20 I50 A 20d20 2+/2++/2+++/2++++/2+++++ ld 9001 with a WC1 60" range s10 fleshbane armourbane shred rending Instantdeath nova that needs to be denied by 10 dice. 350 points. Because eldar.

Hah

Saying that, have you seen Cawl's stats? Holy mother of survivability...

Oh, and he is half Dark Eldar too...which probably means he'll cost 350pts, be S3 T3 (with Eternal Warrior though so that makes it ok), and be able to take a Shadowfield for 50pts. Can't take an Agoniser though because No Model, No Rules...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeah that guy on a bunch of swirly gak who can't decide if he wants to be a C'tan or a giant Daemonette isn't a great model.

Oh...my...newborn...god!

You are right. It totally looks like a Slaaneshi C'tan.
Daemons and Necrons....2 things Eldar hate, yet put them together and they'll worship it. Great logic GeeDubs

This shows the Yncarne with a different weapon loadout - two knives.

Honestly these eldar models kind of blew me away, the imperial triumvirate was good. But i've alway had a certain soft spot for the Eldar. I doubt i'd ever field these figures in a game, but for looking good in a glass case I think these would be great. These models by design would be a challenge to paint.

I'm just hoping this Eldar death-god talk isn't paving the way for Super Wraithguard Eldar Sigmarines.

Lord Kragan wrote:

 Galef wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Am I going crazy or am I the only one getting a vibe that they just may re-combine the eldar races back into one for the end times? Setting aside old differences for the sake of the race.

You are not the only one. GW did this with the Elves, excuse me, "Aelves" in AoS and they actually had a civil war the split them for centuries. Like bitterly split them. They actually had Hatred for each other
CWE and DE have never been truly that split. They simply have different views on how to continue life after the Fall, but overall there was no bitter feud between them like High & Dark elves had.

If GW 'successfully' merged Aelves in Fantasy, merging the "Aeldari" in 40K will be even easier.

-

Ehm... actually, you got it quite wrong. Elves in WHFB unified. Aelves in AoS are a series of separate identities. Even when speaking on a matter of race, the successors of the High and Dark elves don't mingle, like at all.

Eldar have always been battle brothers.
This fluff is what battle brothers is.
They are not AoSing anything.
I really wish the mods would start dealing with that, or at least put a "The sky is falling, cry about 40k being AoS'd here" thread"
It is far beyond tedious.

 BloodGrin wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:

 Galef wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Am I going crazy or am I the only one getting a vibe that they just may re-combine the eldar races back into one for the end times? Setting aside old differences for the sake of the race.

You are not the only one. GW did this with the Elves, excuse me, "Aelves" in AoS and they actually had a civil war the split them for centuries. Like bitterly split them. They actually had Hatred for each other
CWE and DE have never been truly that split. They simply have different views on how to continue life after the Fall, but overall there was no bitter feud between them like High & Dark elves had.

If GW 'successfully' merged Aelves in Fantasy, merging the "Aeldari" in 40K will be even easier.

-

Ehm... actually, you got it quite wrong. Elves in WHFB unified. Aelves in AoS are a series of separate identities. Even when speaking on a matter of race, the successors of the High and Dark elves don't mingle, like at all.

Eldar have always been battle brothers.
This fluff is what battle brothers is.
They are not AoSing anything.
I really wish the mods would start dealing with that, or at least put a "The sky is falling, cry about 40k being AoS'd here" thread"
It is far beyond tedious.

I'll ask again, where is GWs response to claims of 40k being AoSd that everyone can read?

 Ynneadwraith wrote:

 daemonish wrote:
I really hope for some plastic aspect warriors with those guys, I also noticed Grotesques are "out of stock" could they be going to plastic?

Yeah that's going to be the thing that finally makes me get a mortgage and spend it all on little plastic aliens.

I'm wondering whether they'll do releases of plastic Phoenix Lords alongside plastic kits of their given Aspect...

That's assuming they are going to ever release plastic aspect warriors and not say...use this Aeldar thing to unify the 3 races and have bunch of new units get the spotlight with old units being relegated as legacy units you might or might not be able to buy models from store.

Joyboozer wrote:

I'll ask again, where is GWs response to claims of 40k being AoSd that everyone can read?

What you mean by AoSd ?

They might well redo the rules in a more simplified fashion but they will not blow everything up and start all over again like they did with Warhammer.

 Rayvon wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:

I'll ask again, where is GWs response to claims of 40k being AoSd that everyone can read?

What you mean by AoSd ?

They might well redo the rules in a more simplified fashion but they will not blow everything up and start all over again like they did with Warhammer.

I keep reading posts stating that GW won't AoS 40k as fact, they cite GW as the source of this. What do they mean by AoS?