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In regards to making a CAD and Allied detachment can someone tell me the different factions? I thought they were:
SM, CSM, Tau, Eldar, DE, etc...

but someone recently told me Space Wolves, Blood Angels, and a few other SM armies have separate factions.

Can someone please clarify?

Each Codex is classed as a Faction (not the supplements); that means the different First Founding Chapters are considered a separate faction to Codex: Space Marines.

They are now, however, all listed under "Armies of the Imperium" when it comes to allying them to other forces, so attaching them should be the same as attaching any other Imperial army.

G.A

Gotcha, is Thousand Sons a codex or supplment? Im guessing supp?

Pretty sure it's a supplement to CSM, yes, considering some of the formations in Wrath of Magnus are for Codex: Chaos Space Marines

Got it thanks. Still doesnt make sense to me why SM got to be split into different factions but not Chaos lol.

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
Got it thanks. Still doesnt make sense to me why SM got to be split into different factions but not Chaos lol.

More annoyingly why are some Legions more worthy of being separate factions than others, and why are different Septs, Hive Fleets, Craftworlds, etc. not worthy of being separate while three Legions are?

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
Got it thanks. Still doesnt make sense to me why SM got to be split into different factions but not Chaos lol.

The idea is that the chapters that are excluded from the SM codex (specifically, the Blood Angels, Dark Angels, the Space Wolves, Grey Knights, and the Deathwatch) are sufficiently different than that main "codex chapters" (codex in this context meaning the in-universe Codex Astartes). Their tactics, organization, and equipment are different to a greater degree from the main chapters than just a unique set of chapter tactics would entail, so they're separated out.

For the record, I'd be down with some separation of CSM in a similar fashion, but it kinda looks like they've already got it started. The 1k Sons and the KDK armies are different in such a manner, but I'd like to see the other god-based armies get fleshed out as well. I think that'd work as a nice counterpart to the SM forces. They have non-codex chapters, chaos has god-specific legions.

I'd say it's more to do with a combination of SM being top sellers, and the First Founding Chapters having many army specific models. Difficult to know for sure though...

 General Annoyance wrote:
I'd say it's more to do with a combination of SM being top sellers, and the First Founding Chapters having many army specific models. Difficult to know for sure though...

Chicken-egg. If you made special Black Guardian models, the Spear of Khaine, and a Seer Council that didn't suck in melee you would need a special Ulthwe Codex too.

We'll see what happens when that comes to light then; I'd say a few units is Supplement grounds, while something along the lines of the Space Wolf range really needs a separate Codex.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 General Annoyance wrote:
I'd say it's more to do with a combination of SM being top sellers, and the First Founding Chapters having many army specific models. Difficult to know for sure though...

Chicken-egg. If you made special Black Guardian models, the Spear of Khaine, and a Seer Council that didn't suck in melee you would need a special Ulthwe Codex too.

you missed the first bit about Marines being their best selling item. space marines massivly outsell every other line, seems nautral to me that GW as such belives there would be more demand for varient marine armies then others.

BrianDavion wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 General Annoyance wrote:
I'd say it's more to do with a combination of SM being top sellers, and the First Founding Chapters having many army specific models. Difficult to know for sure though...

Chicken-egg. If you made special Black Guardian models, the Spear of Khaine, and a Seer Council that didn't suck in melee you would need a special Ulthwe Codex too.

you missed the first bit about Marines being their best selling item. space marines massivly outsell every other line, seems nautral to me that GW as such belives there would be more demand for varient marine armies then others.

Again, chicken/egg. Do they get the most support because they sell so much, or do they sell so much because they get the most support?